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User currently offlineMCOtoATL From United States of America, joined Sep 1999, 474 posts, RR: 4
Posted (12 years 3 months 2 weeks 17 hours ago) and read 10105 times:

This has been discussed before, and yet I could not find it in the search engine.

In the late 60's or early 70's there was a National Airlines 727 on approach to MIA. It mysteriously disappeared off of the radar for 10 minutes and then, 10 minutes later, mysteriously reappeared. The pilot and crew reported no unusual activity, and yet everyone's watch (of those who were on the plane) was 10 minutes slow.

This sounds like an urban legend. Author Martin Caidin wrote about it in the book "Ghost of the Air," and yet he provides no details, such as date, flight #, etc...

It sounds strange, but I am actually a minister and I wnat to use this story in next Sunday's sermon, so any help would be much appreciated.

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User currently offlineGnomon From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 1, posted (12 years 3 months 2 weeks 17 hours ago) and read 10072 times:

I believe this incident was featured also in a film documentary based on Charles Berlitz's book titled "The Bermuda Triangle."

The movie (and the book) depict a flight which encountered a phenomenon identical to the one you describe, and while neither specifies that the flight was operated by National, they refer to it as "Flight 408." Whether that was the actual flight number is unclear. I remember thinking that flight number remarkable because of its similarity to EAL401, which crashed in the same area around the same time.

It's interesting you bring it up -- I've been wondering which airline operated the mysterious "Flight 408."

I believe the Berlitz volume was published ca. 1972, so the incident in question would had to have been before that, if my memory is correct.

As a reporter, I put zero credibility in any story that isn't more specific. The conspicuous omission of corroborating details in both accounts -- Berlitz and Caidin -- is mighty mysterious to me.

[Edited 2004-02-15 22:43:50]

User currently offlineOPNLguy From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 2, posted (12 years 3 months 2 weeks 15 hours ago) and read 9973 times:

I did a google search for "miami radar contact 727" and got about 2200 hits...

Here's a couple... One of them mentions a -specfic- date...



There were a couple of other hits (somewhere within the first 10-12 pages of hits) where the flight was mentioned in the contexts of spiritual matters/ascension, but I didn't save the links for them. Maybe there are others beyond the 10-12 pages of hits that I looked at.

If all else fails, search for the a.net member "Kellmark" here, and send him an email. He was in MIAmi for another airline for at least part of the 1970s, and if he doesn't have personal knowledge of the event (if it actually occurred, I'm sure it would have been the talk of the airport), he might know someone who actually does...

Good luck...

User currently offlineMCOtoATL From United States of America, joined Sep 1999, 474 posts, RR: 4
Reply 3, posted (12 years 3 months 2 weeks 11 hours ago) and read 9876 times:

Dear OPNLguy,
Thanks for the help. I looked at several websites, and notice that few give any specific details. In fact, one site says it occurred in late 1969, while another says August 22, 1970, and yet another says 1971. Like you said, if it is really true you would think that people would remember it!

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