LambertMan From United States of America, joined Aug 2003, 2055 posts, RR: 37 Reply 6, posted (9 years 10 months 1 week 1 day 14 hours ago) and read 5685 times:
MSP has AMS and LGW by NW, and Icelandair services REK w/ a 752 (if you consider it transatlantic). The dubious honor of largest metro w/ no transatlantic does go to STL with MCI next in line without service I believe, MSY has a small population (1.3 million) but is a fairly large leisure destination so that makes up for some of the population difference. STL has been courting LH for sometime to no avail, they were seen recently (when PDX got service) and in the early 90's service was nearly commenced. Maybe if STL would wisen up like DEN or PDX and offer some incentives we could take that great honor away.
Yanksn4, VS is a charter service only to feed the cruis ships
Alitalia, yes Condor pulled out but BA recently went from 2x weekly to 5x in a super dense configuration on the 772 (forgot the official name).
Johnnybgoode From Germany, joined Jan 2001, 2187 posts, RR: 7 Reply 9, posted (9 years 10 months 1 week 1 day 14 hours ago) and read 5596 times:
if your including metropolitan areas, then i cannot answer your question. however, if you´re just strictly concerned about biggest cities w/o transatlantic service, it should be San Antonio, TX.
according to the Estimates Program, Population Division, U.S. Census Bureau, Washington, DC, it is the 8th biggest US city (population: 1,147,213). however, these figures are from 1999 and retrieved from the net in late 2002.
next biggest cities w/o transatlantic service would be
Indianapolis, IN 738,907
Jacksonville, FL 695,877
Columbus, OH 671,247
If only pure sweetness was offered, why's this bitter taste left in my mouth.
LambertMan From United States of America, joined Aug 2003, 2055 posts, RR: 37 Reply 11, posted (9 years 10 months 1 week 1 day 14 hours ago) and read 5539 times:
Johnnybgoode, you must remember that in the grand scheme of things city population really doesn't mean alot. St Louis is a small city 338,000 but recently has annexed a little land and has pushed its metro population to a little over 2.8 million. That metro population is what airlines truly draw from.
Coronado990 From United States of America, joined Oct 2003, 1591 posts, RR: 2 Reply 15, posted (9 years 10 months 1 week 1 day 14 hours ago) and read 5393 times:
If you are talking about city population, San Diego wins. If you are talking about METRO AREA then Riverside/San Bernadino/Ontario officially wins since the US Census Bureau counts that as a seperate Metro area. But we all know they can use LAX.
After that, San Diego wins again showing that LAX must take the burden of one the largest, if not largest, population centers in the U.S. (if you take into account the LA, SD and Riverside area's).
St. Louis is right behind San Diego...
RANKING TABLE FOR POPULATION METROPOLITAN STATISTICAL AREA:
Source: US Census Bureau 2000.
AAJAXFlyer From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR: Reply 16, posted (9 years 10 months 1 week 1 day 14 hours ago) and read 5357 times:
St. Louis hasn't annexed the land.... it's just one big metro area.
Jacksonville is so large because the city merged with Duval County back in the 1960s to make the largest city land-wise in the continental 48 states... thus it encompasses most of its own metro area.
British Airways apparently talked with Jacksonville before, but the city wouldn't make necessary airport facility improvements. BA does have a presence in the city, with FlyTele's center located in the southside.
BMAbound From Sweden, joined Nov 2003, 660 posts, RR: 4 Reply 18, posted (9 years 10 months 1 week 1 day 14 hours ago) and read 5314 times:
So, to expand the question a little, which states do not have transatlantic connections? I can think of Montana, Idaho, Nebraska, the Dakotas, Hawaii...(freebee) Louisiana, Arkansas (?), Delaware, Connecticut, Oklahoma and a few more, but I guess you Yankees are better informed!
ps. The list might be rather lenghty, maybe we should try to figure out which states actually do have it...
LambertMan From United States of America, joined Aug 2003, 2055 posts, RR: 37 Reply 23, posted (9 years 10 months 1 week 1 day 14 hours ago) and read 5196 times:
AAJAX, apparently they did annex some type of land. I'm on a development board(my 2nd passion) and they claim that the metro is now 2.8 some million people(someone actually posted a census figure). It comes up frequently because the people from KC often argue about how big St Louis is when compared to KC. Turns into some pretty heated stuff!
VectorVictor From United States of America, joined Feb 2005, 0 posts, RR: 0 Reply 24, posted (9 years 10 months 1 week 1 day 14 hours ago) and read 5195 times:
Although not technically one metropolitan area, the San Antonio-Austin area has essentially grown together over the last decade. Austin's 1.146 mil and San Antonio's 1.568 mil gives the concentrated region about 2.8 mil.
I'm not holding my breath for any announcement in the next 5 years, however.
25 ToxicMegacolon: Its not that surprising that STL doesn't have transatlantic service though. Its not a particularly tourist-y destination, (like say, Florida, LAS, NYC