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Largest European Cities Without US Service?  
User currently offlineSHUPirate1 From United States of America, joined Sep 2003, 3670 posts, RR: 17
Posted (10 years 2 months 5 days 14 hours ago) and read 3751 times:

For some reason, I have no idea about this one...


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User currently offlineDia77 From United States of America, joined Jan 2000, 704 posts, RR: 6
Reply 1, posted (10 years 2 months 5 days 14 hours ago) and read 3707 times:

My guess would be Berlin.

User currently offlineSHUPirate1 From United States of America, joined Sep 2003, 3670 posts, RR: 17
Reply 2, posted (10 years 2 months 5 days 14 hours ago) and read 3685 times:

Dia-Oh, yeah, duh! How could I possibly forget about Berlin...now why does Berlin not have transatlantic service when it seems like a half-dozen cities in Germany that are smaller do...


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User currently offlineDTW757 From United States of America, joined Oct 2003, 1528 posts, RR: 3
Reply 3, posted (10 years 2 months 5 days 14 hours ago) and read 3680 times:

I would say that HAM is another large city without US service.


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User currently offlineCsavel From United States of America, joined Jan 2001, 1360 posts, RR: 4
Reply 4, posted (10 years 2 months 5 days 12 hours ago) and read 3614 times:

St. Petersburg has to be up there. I'll bet it's #1.
Maybe some of the industrial British midlnds cities, Sheffield, Newcastle, etc., etc.




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User currently offlineSFO2SVO From United States of America, joined Jan 2004, 398 posts, RR: 0
Reply 5, posted (10 years 2 months 5 days 11 hours ago) and read 3554 times:

There are a lot in former USSR. Most of these cities have population over 1 million but just not enough demand or too close to Moscow/Kiev:

Minsk Belarus BY Minsk International 2 Airport MSQ
Kiev Ukraine UA Kiev KBP (no service by US airlines)

Samara Russia RU Samara Airport KUF
Nizhniy Novgorod Russia RU Gorkij Airport GOJ
Dnepropetrovsk Ukraine UA Dnepropetrovsk Airport DNK

I am sure the real question was "which cities with enough traffic to US do not have direct service?"



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User currently offlineJGPH1A From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 6, posted (10 years 2 months 5 days 7 hours ago) and read 3459 times:

Lyon (LYS) - second biggest city in France.

User currently offlineTurin_airport From Italy, joined Oct 2001, 278 posts, RR: 2
Reply 7, posted (10 years 2 months 5 days 5 hours ago) and read 3359 times:

Turin (TRN) don't have it too.

If I'm not wrong, some years ago AA was interested in establishing a JFK-TRN flight (don't know if on daily or weekly basis), but seems that Alitalia put a big pressure to avoid it (and won, obviously... Pissed).

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User currently offlineFraT From Germany, joined Sep 2003, 1101 posts, RR: 1
Reply 8, posted (10 years 2 months 5 days 4 hours ago) and read 3284 times:

"Dia-Oh, yeah, duh! How could I possibly forget about Berlin...now why does Berlin not have transatlantic service when it seems like a half-dozen cities in Germany that are smaller do..."

The only German cities with transatlantic services are FRA, MUC, STR and DUS (LH/Privatair Business Jets only). HAJ has a charter to Canada in the summer once or twice a week but I don't think that counts.

The reason why Berlin doesn't have any has been discussed quite often.
There is not enough demand. LH tried it in 2000/2001 with TXL-IAD but canceled it right away after 9/11 as it was performing very poorly.


User currently offlineN276AASTT From US Virgin Islands, joined Jan 2004, 620 posts, RR: 0
Reply 9, posted (10 years 2 months 5 days 4 hours ago) and read 3270 times:

Stockholm (ARN) used to see a lot of US traffic, but if memory serves me correctly, they have all pulled out.


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User currently offlineDETA737 From Portugal, joined Oct 2000, 612 posts, RR: 0
Reply 10, posted (10 years 2 months 5 days 4 hours ago) and read 3260 times:

In response to the last post I'm not sure if American ever wanted to start JFK-TRN, but I know in 1994 that TWA was about to begin this route with 4 weekly flights but nothing came of it.

The largest cities without service by U.S. carriers would probably be St. Peterburg with a population of 4.7 million and Berlin with about 3.7 million.
There are several other important cities in Europe with no U.S. carriers serving them.

Belgrade
Berlin
Bucahrest
Budapest
Cologne
Copenhagen
Dusseldorf
Hamburg
Helsinki
Kiev
Lyon
Marseille
Naples
Oslo
Prague
Riga
Sofia
St. Petersburg
Stockholm
Turin
Vienna
Warsaw
Zagreb


User currently offlineDETA737 From Portugal, joined Oct 2000, 612 posts, RR: 0
Reply 11, posted (10 years 2 months 5 days 4 hours ago) and read 3228 times:

Disregard my last post as I was reading U.S. carriers not U.S. service. St. Petersburg and Berlin still qualify though.

User currently offlineSk945 From Sweden, joined May 2002, 432 posts, RR: 0
Reply 12, posted (10 years 2 months 5 days 3 hours ago) and read 3116 times:

N276AASTT,
It's correct that DL and AA pulled out of ARN, but we stil have SAS flying daily to ORD and 4/weekly to EWR.
EWR will be daily again from the summerschedule.


User currently offlineWindshear From Denmark, joined Mar 2000, 2325 posts, RR: 11
Reply 13, posted (10 years 2 months 4 days 20 hours ago) and read 2964 times:

DETA 737 I think almost all of us understood it as US carriers...

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User currently offlineKaiGywer From United States of America, joined Oct 2003, 12163 posts, RR: 36
Reply 14, posted (10 years 2 months 4 days 20 hours ago) and read 2909 times:
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Windshear, I think I understood it as US Service  Big grin


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User currently offlineAirnondo From Moldova, joined May 2000, 241 posts, RR: 1
Reply 15, posted (10 years 2 months 4 days 19 hours ago) and read 2876 times:

DETA737- you're correct in listing OTP (Bucharest), Tarom just dropped their direct flights to JFK, no other carriers serve routes non-stop to the US.


User currently offlineDukebluedevil From United States of America, joined Feb 2004, 119 posts, RR: 1
Reply 16, posted (10 years 2 months 4 days 18 hours ago) and read 2816 times:

Bern in Switzerland doesn't get US service...neither does Dusseldorf.

User currently offlineConcordeBoy From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 17, posted (10 years 2 months 4 days 18 hours ago) and read 2799 times:

neither does Dusseldorf

uh, yeah they do... rather famous service at that  Big grin


User currently offlineBazzaldonbond From Ireland, joined Feb 2001, 95 posts, RR: 0
Reply 18, posted (10 years 2 months 4 days 18 hours ago) and read 2775 times:

yeah its a minibus service

User currently offlineGKirk From UK - Scotland, joined Jun 2000, 24815 posts, RR: 56
Reply 19, posted (10 years 2 months 4 days 15 hours ago) and read 2689 times:

Got to be honest now, but I'd doubt the EDI-EWR service will work. NCL-EWR would be much better because of the way the traffic works in the area.


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User currently offlineTurin_airport From Italy, joined Oct 2001, 278 posts, RR: 2
Reply 20, posted (10 years 2 months 4 days 2 hours ago) and read 2599 times:

Yes DETA737, you're right, it was TWA that wanted to start a JFK-TRN service, not AA.

Checking Turin airport site I saw that officially Alitalia has a TRN-JFK connection right now, too.

They carry passengers on a bus (!!), probably waiting outside the airport, and carry them to MXP, where they finally get a plane. What a joke!

T_a



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