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User currently offlineCoTXDFW777AA From United States of America, joined Feb 2004, 321 posts, RR: 1
Posted (10 years 5 months 2 weeks 1 day 2 hours ago) and read 2474 times:

Aeroflot flys SEA-Moscow non-stop 2 or 3 times weekly why? Is there that big of a Russian community in the Pacific Northwest?

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User currently offlineMAH4546 From Sweden, joined Jan 2001, 32620 posts, RR: 72
Reply 1, posted (10 years 5 months 2 weeks 1 day 2 hours ago) and read 2423 times:

Yes, there is that large a Russian community in the Seattle area.


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User currently offlineJetblast25 From United States of America, joined Aug 2000, 57 posts, RR: 0
Reply 2, posted (10 years 5 months 2 weeks 1 day 2 hours ago) and read 2371 times:

AK used to fly to Magadan weekly as well, this was stopped a few yrs ago.

User currently offlineCanoecarrier From United States of America, joined Feb 2004, 2839 posts, RR: 12
Reply 3, posted (10 years 5 months 2 weeks 1 day 2 hours ago) and read 2357 times:

I believe it is a thru flight Moscow-SFO-SEA.


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User currently offlineStevenUhl777 From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 4, posted (10 years 5 months 2 weeks 1 day 2 hours ago) and read 2337 times:

There's also a large Russian population in the Portland-Salem area, so the flight most likely has passengers from that area as well.

User currently offlineRoseFlyer From United States of America, joined Feb 2004, 9509 posts, RR: 52
Reply 5, posted (10 years 5 months 2 weeks 1 day 2 hours ago) and read 2294 times:

There is a Russian speaking population of roughly 8000 people in the Seattle area. There is also a Russian Consulate in Seattle. Also there is a fair bit of buisness travel because of the high tech companies like Microsoft in Seattle and the growing Russian market.


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User currently offlineMymiles2go From United States of America, joined Nov 2003, 207 posts, RR: 0
Reply 6, posted (10 years 5 months 2 weeks 1 day 2 hours ago) and read 2241 times:

As someone mentioned, the route (actually) goes Moscow - SEA - SFO, and return. Folks that do not get off in Seattle clear customs in San Fran (oddly enough), as I ran into some last night in SFO customs. Also, obviously you cannot buy SFO-SEA and ride the 1.75 hour flight in the 777, you must buy a ticket all the way to Russia.

User currently offlineLegacyins From United States of America, joined Aug 2003, 2054 posts, RR: 0
Reply 7, posted (10 years 5 months 2 weeks 1 day 2 hours ago) and read 2236 times:

Sadly, Aeroflot is discontinuing service to San Francisco at the end of March. The flight was an a continuation of the Seattle flight. Look for this route to be served by a 767 in the future.


John@SFO
User currently offlineMAH4546 From Sweden, joined Jan 2001, 32620 posts, RR: 72
Reply 8, posted (10 years 5 months 2 weeks 1 day 2 hours ago) and read 2226 times:

The SFO-SEA portion ends at the end of March. Aerflot is discontinuing San Francisco. Seattle will continue, at an upgraded frequency (3x a week instead of 2x), but with smaller aircraft (763 instead of 772).

While Seattle's Russian community is huge, there are other factors/reasons that Aeroflot flies to Seattle. Chicago and Miami have significantly larger Russian communities, and Aeroflot has suspended service to both in recent years.



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User currently offlineLegacyins From United States of America, joined Aug 2003, 2054 posts, RR: 0
Reply 9, posted (10 years 5 months 2 weeks 1 day 2 hours ago) and read 2195 times:

Mymiles2go:

All passengers on the flight clears Immigration/Customs in Seattle before continuing onto SFO. When it arrives at Terminal "G", the passengers exit through the departure area and retrieve their luggage near the arrivals hall on the second level. That Customs officer gave you misinformation.



John@SFO
User currently offlineFlybynight From Norway, joined exactly 11 years ago today! , 1005 posts, RR: 2
Reply 10, posted (10 years 5 months 2 weeks 1 day 1 hour ago) and read 2170 times:

According to Aeroflot's webpage:
http://www.aeroflot.org/e_aero.htm




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User currently offlineUnited777 From United States of America, joined May 1999, 1657 posts, RR: 0
Reply 11, posted (10 years 5 months 2 weeks 1 day 1 hour ago) and read 2147 times:

The city of Bellingham, north of Seattle & just south of the Canadian border has a huge Russian community.

Farhan Ali
Seattle, USA


User currently offlineEmmett99 From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 12, posted (10 years 5 months 2 weeks 1 day ago) and read 2068 times:

Not to mention, a lot of Boeing jobs are being off loaded to Moscow. My guess is they are flying first class.  Yeah sure

User currently offlineDelta-flyer From United States of America, joined exactly 13 years ago today! , 2676 posts, RR: 7
Reply 13, posted (10 years 5 months 2 weeks 1 day ago) and read 2033 times:

Boeing has a large design office in Moscow employing over 500 engineers. I am sure that accounts for some of the SEA-SVO traffic.

Pete


User currently offlineSFO2SVO From United States of America, joined Jan 2004, 398 posts, RR: 0
Reply 14, posted (10 years 5 months 2 weeks 20 hours ago) and read 1893 times:

> All passengers on the flight clears Immigration/Customs in Seattle before continuing onto SFO

Unless something changed within last 3-4 years this is not the case. The SFO passengers were allowed (and actually asked) to deplane (hate this word) in Seattle but were required to stay in the transit area which is a "no man's land" and so they technically do not enter US.



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User currently offlineLegacyins From United States of America, joined Aug 2003, 2054 posts, RR: 0
Reply 15, posted (10 years 5 months 2 weeks 9 hours ago) and read 1669 times:

The last time WE cleared a SU flight at SFO was about December 2001. All the passengers are cleared at Seattle. I can guarantee it.


John@SFO
User currently offlineBCAInfoSys From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 16, posted (10 years 5 months 2 weeks 8 hours ago) and read 1571 times:

Roseflyer, your numbers are off. I'll tell you right now, there are a LOT more then 8,000 russian ex-patriates in Seattle. I mean, about 4 or 5 years ago when I was in high school, about 1/4 to 1/3 of my high school originated in the former Eastern Bloc. Immigriants from the former USSR made up by far the largest minority population in my suburb, which is about 30 minutes SE of Seattle.

User currently offlineRussophile From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 17, posted (10 years 5 months 2 weeks 8 hours ago) and read 1556 times:

Boeing has a large design office in Moscow employing over 500 engineers.

Not anymore they don't -- particularly if current gossip is anything to go by -- 300 Moscovites have been given their marching orders by Boeing.


User currently offlineSsides From United States of America, joined Feb 2001, 4059 posts, RR: 21
Reply 18, posted (10 years 5 months 2 weeks 8 hours ago) and read 1479 times:

While Seattle's Russian community is huge, there are other factors/reasons that Aeroflot flies to Seattle. Chicago and Miami have significantly larger Russian communities, and Aeroflot has suspended service to both in recent years.

Thank you. I can't let my pet peeve go unnoticed. People, please get this through your head. Just because a city has a large nationality population, that alone isn't going to justify nonstop flights to the home country. As I've said time and time again, if that were true, SAT would have nonstops to FRA, DFW would have nonstops to DEL, and so on. Business travel drives these flights. Many shipping and technology companies in Seattle have work in Moscow, and Seattle is also relatively close to Moscow via the Great Circle. That's why SEA has these flights, not because of its large Russian population.



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User currently offlineRoseFlyer From United States of America, joined Feb 2004, 9509 posts, RR: 52
Reply 19, posted (10 years 5 months 2 weeks 7 hours ago) and read 1458 times:

Sorry to be confusing but the numbers I heard were from the 2000 Census. For the actual city of Seattle there are (estimated) 8000 people who list Russian as their primary language in their home. As for the entire state of Washington the figure grows to 31,339 people.

ps. I grew up in Mercer Island which is a suburb 5 miles away from downtown Seattle.

[Edited 2004-02-18 22:17:55]


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