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User currently offlineRjpieces From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Posted (10 years 10 months 2 weeks 1 day 2 hours ago) and read 3369 times:

I was reading some older threads on El Al security.....

And I also had a question about check-in. I vaguely remember my neighbors going to JFK in the morning to checkin and go through their first security check. They would come home and then leave for the airport later in the day before their flight left. Do they still do this? Is it mandatory that you check-in hours in advance?

Also, El Al's main focus is on finding the terrorist before they could board the plane, while most other aviation security focuses on not allowing terrorist to bring weapons on board (thus preventing any hijacking)

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User currently offlineScottysAir From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 1, posted (10 years 10 months 2 weeks 1 day 1 hour ago) and read 3310 times:

First thing for you about with El Al and make sure that security is clear for your flight and after make sure they asked you with question about of those trip. After finished with the question and then you will have screening with their checked bags before go through to Israel. It would not make anything with explosives.

User currently offlineAzmi From Lebanon, joined Nov 2003, 111 posts, RR: 1
Reply 2, posted (10 years 10 months 2 weeks 15 hours ago) and read 3230 times:

ScottysAir
Can you repeat that in English please?



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User currently offlineSonic From Lithuania, joined Jan 2000, 1670 posts, RR: 1
Reply 3, posted (10 years 10 months 2 weeks 15 hours ago) and read 3176 times:

Azmi, here are what I believe ScottysAir meant, although I am not sure (he speaks using grammar of ASL - American Sign Language):

INTERPRETATION 1:
First thing I have to tell you about El Al is that they makes sure that you are not in register of some security organisation. And they also asks you questions about upcoming trip. When the questioning ends, they will screen you and your bags (which you would later check in) before flying to Israel. Explosives couldn't make it to El Al planes.

INTERPRETATION 2:
First thing you need to know if flying El Al is that you have to make sure that security is clear for your flight. Also, that you will be questioned about your trip. After the questioning finishes, you will have to screen the bags you will give to check-in. This must be done before flying to Israel. It would be hard to go through with explosives.

INTERPRETATION 3:
First thing El Al does when you book tickets is making sure that your flying history is clear of flights to "enemy" states. If it is not, than they will question you about trips to these countries. After finishing questions they will screen you with your bags and only then let to go to Israel. You wouldn't make it with explosives.


User currently offlineWillo From United Kingdom, joined Dec 2003, 1352 posts, RR: 12
Reply 4, posted (10 years 10 months 2 weeks 15 hours ago) and read 3151 times:

In my experience it's not just El Al flights that go through this but all flights in to and out of Israel. I can't remember if the more rigorous checks apply to Israeli passport holders though.

User currently offlineWindshear From Denmark, joined Mar 2000, 2334 posts, RR: 11
Reply 5, posted (10 years 10 months 2 weeks 14 hours ago) and read 3078 times:

I went to TLV with Lufthansa this winter, and there were NO further checks!

But all passengers leaving the country WILL have a serious check.

I have flown with El Al on several occasions, and they always ask you where you are going, who bought the tickets, where we're going in Israel, why we are going and so on...Pretty normal questions, but it is to test how you react and if there are any one of the questions that makes the entire line of questions seem incoherant...

Also passengers baggage and carry ons are screened by El Al staff...They are trained to read body language and profiling...

For example they have a rule of three details about a passenger's looks...

If there are one out of three things that stand out, it could be a nice suite but old shoes or old clothes and a shiny new briefcase, they would take you in for further quetioning...

This might future El Al passengers seem paranoid to fly with El Al, but again they are highly trained, and will not suspect you for nothing, so relax and enjoy the flight...

Boaz...



"If you believe breaking is possible, believe in fixing also"-Rebbe Nachman
User currently offlineJohnboy From United States of America, joined Aug 1999, 2602 posts, RR: 7
Reply 6, posted (10 years 10 months 2 weeks 13 hours ago) and read 3045 times:

O/T a bit, but El Al has a really unique website, especially the FAQ section with Mitzi the El Al skychick.

User currently offlineCory6188 From United States of America, joined Feb 2004, 2692 posts, RR: 5
Reply 7, posted (10 years 10 months 2 weeks 13 hours ago) and read 3039 times:

How does CO handle their flights to TLV from EWR? Do they have the same level of security screening at EWR that El Al does?

I know that LY would be a terrorist's dream target, although a US airline flying to Israel probably wouldn't be a bad choice either.


User currently offlineScottysAir From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 8, posted (10 years 10 months 2 weeks 12 hours ago) and read 2976 times:

It wouldn't not bad at all with El Al. It would be all right for the security and this is due of the security reason on LY flights and no camera is allowed into their planes.

User currently offline4xRuv From Israel, joined Dec 2003, 388 posts, RR: 2
Reply 9, posted (10 years 10 months 1 week 4 days 13 hours ago) and read 2869 times:

I don't know where you've heard it, but I have loads of photos I've taken legally! onboard Elal flights.....

User currently offlineAmirs From Israel, joined Dec 2003, 1333 posts, RR: 3
Reply 10, posted (10 years 10 months 1 week 4 days 13 hours ago) and read 2851 times:

WHAT? ITS NOT ILLEGAL TO TAKE PHOTOS ON EL AL FLIGHTS!
ITS FUNNY HOW THERE IS SOM MUCH MISINFORMATION SURROUNDING EL AL ALWAYS.
i GUESS IT IS PART OF THE SECURITY TACTICS.


User currently offlineManni From South Korea, joined Nov 2001, 4221 posts, RR: 22
Reply 11, posted (10 years 10 months 1 week 4 days 10 hours ago) and read 2771 times:

I have flown several times in and out of TLV on ELAL aswell as on other airlines. Security interviews are standard on all departures and on all airlines out of TLV. Security interviews are only conducted, as far as I've experienced it, on flights into TLV with ELAL.

'...they are highly trained, and will not suspect you for nothing...'

For highly trained staff they leave in general a very lame a high shoolish impression to me, just like they are serving a part of their military service as a security guard instead. Elal suspects probaply about 10% or more of their passengers on each flight, ALL of them have been suspected for nothing, with a few exceptions... Nevertheless better safe than sorry.




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User currently offlinePlanenutz From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 12, posted (10 years 10 months 1 week 4 days 9 hours ago) and read 2724 times:

Rjpieces:


I could be totally wrong, but I beleive the advance check-in provided by EL AL was primarily for flights leaving on or close to Shabbat. You could check-in early before a Saturday flight.

This service is now only offered at Johanessburg. For passengers booked on the Saturday flight the advance check-in is available from 10:30am to 12:30pm on Friday at JNB International Airport (Counter 99 I beleive).

Advance check-in is available for all flights departing Ben Gurion at the Arlozorov Terminal in Tel Aviv City.

In order to remain competitive EL AL has slowly been altering its scheduled to include Saturday flights. Awhile ago there were absolutely no flights in Saturdays, now there are departures on Saturday nights after sundown (post-Shabbat).






User currently offlineHaveric From United States of America, joined Jan 2001, 1247 posts, RR: 4
Reply 13, posted (10 years 10 months 1 week 4 days 8 hours ago) and read 2697 times:

El Al Flight 1 has always left JFK around 11PM on Saturday night. This is not new. Check-in was also open during Shabbat.

User currently offline4xRuv From Israel, joined Dec 2003, 388 posts, RR: 2
Reply 14, posted (10 years 10 months 1 week 4 days 5 hours ago) and read 2645 times:

ly001 is on TLV-JFK route, and not vice versa

User currently offlineJeffrey1970 From United States of America, joined Apr 2001, 1336 posts, RR: 12
Reply 15, posted (10 years 10 months 1 week 4 days 5 hours ago) and read 2620 times:

This is a bit off the topic but I saw an interview once with the person who is in charge of security for EL AL, and he said they learned there security measures from the U.S. Secret Service.




God bless through Jesus, Jeff
User currently offlineHaveric From United States of America, joined Jan 2001, 1247 posts, RR: 4
Reply 16, posted (10 years 10 months 1 week 4 days 3 hours ago) and read 2574 times:

oops, meant 002.

unforunately it has been awhile since i've been on that flight.


User currently offlinePlanenutz From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 17, posted (10 years 10 months 1 week 4 days 3 hours ago) and read 2546 times:

Haveric:

Flt. 2, which leaves at 1100pm is after Shabbat (even with check in open 3 hours before hand at 800pm). Shannat ends at sundown Sat.


User currently offlineBd1959 From Australia, joined Oct 2002, 450 posts, RR: 2
Reply 18, posted (10 years 10 months 1 week 3 days 22 hours ago) and read 2502 times:

Johnboy: O/T a bit, but El Al has a really unique website, especially the FAQ section with Mitzi the El Al skychick.

Certainly is unique Johnboy. Has a survey box which doesn't recognize 75% of countries - so can't survey; has little "stars and stripes" to flag the "English" option. Strewth, everyone knows Yanks can't speak English. Crikey.

BD1959


User currently offlineAmirs From Israel, joined Dec 2003, 1333 posts, RR: 3
Reply 19, posted (10 years 10 months 1 week 3 days 21 hours ago) and read 2471 times:

YOU ARE MISTKEN AGAIN, FLIGHT LY002 LEAVES JFK AT AROUND 19:30, THE 23:50 DEPARTURE IS LY008. LY008 IS THE FLAGSHIP FLIGHT OUT OF NEW YORK, JUST LIKE LY001 IS THE FLAGSHIP OUT OF TLV. THEY ARE BOTH FLOWN EXCLUSIVELY ON 744 AND 777 WITH 3 CLASS CONFIGURATION.

ON SATURDAY NIGHT YOU CAN ALSO GET A 23:50 FLIGHT OUT OF EWR ON LY026.


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