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Snowflake To Beirut Is A Sellout!  
User currently offlineMEA321 From Lebanon, joined Oct 2003, 389 posts, RR: 16
Posted (10 years 5 months 1 week 4 hours ago) and read 1972 times:

As reported earlier, Snowflake has quickly sold out most of its tickets to Beirut in the months of May, June, and July of this summer. This post is to update that Stockholm as well has also sold out now for the month of June! Additionally there are several days in May and July that are also sold out from Stockholm.

Snowflake has also been successful on several other routes to popular southern European destinations such as Malaga, Split, Alicante, and Bilbao.

Next month, Snowflake will inaugurate a flight from CPH to BEY on March 29, that flight is sold out too. Should we expect additional frequencies? Will SAS lend out their 330/340 to make up for the lack of capacity?


MEA321
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User currently offlineTriStar500 From Germany, joined Nov 1999, 4692 posts, RR: 43
Reply 1, posted (10 years 5 months 1 week 4 hours ago) and read 1911 times:

As we don't know, what the yield and the production costs of Snowflake on this route are, we can only speculate... I highly doubt however, that SK widebody equipment will be substituted, because the block hour costs of the A330 and A340 in lwo-density seating are certainly higher than the revenue these low cost fares will generate.



Homer: Facts are meaningless. You could use facts to prove anything that's even remotely true!
User currently offlineCedarjet From United Kingdom, joined May 1999, 8045 posts, RR: 54
Reply 2, posted (10 years 5 months 1 week 3 hours ago) and read 1836 times:

While they may not add the widebodies (although it's not impossible), I'm more likely to think they'll add freqencies. Nice to see BEY doing so well.


fly Saha Air 707s daily from Tehran's downtown Mehrabad to Mashhad, Kish Island and Ahwaz
User currently offlineDonder10 From Canada, joined Oct 2001, 6659 posts, RR: 22
Reply 3, posted (10 years 5 months 1 week 3 hours ago) and read 1794 times:

Any chance this will be upgraded to a SAS 321?

User currently offlineRick767 From United Kingdom, joined Jan 2000, 2662 posts, RR: 51
Reply 4, posted (10 years 5 months 1 week 3 hours ago) and read 1786 times:

They can't be charging enough if their flights are full, in some cases several months in advance. Sounds like they need some new Yield Management software.  Big grin


I used to love the smell of Jet-A in the morning...
User currently offlineNethkt From Thailand, joined Apr 2001, 1067 posts, RR: 3
Reply 5, posted (10 years 5 months 1 week 3 hours ago) and read 1737 times:

They cannot use the A333 and A343 on Snowflake.

Their A333s and 343s are fully utilized. They are going to Shanghai and reduces Bangkok...not enough aircrafts. They might get more A343 if the situation getting better.  Big grin



Let's just blame it on yields.
User currently offlineVCE From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 6, posted (10 years 5 months 1 week 1 hour ago) and read 1654 times:

The next month Snowflake will also introduce a direct flight from Stockholm to Venice. Last year the passengers that flew from VCE to ARN were 26.000 without a direct flight and just in a one way.. Smile

User currently offlineCedarjet From United Kingdom, joined May 1999, 8045 posts, RR: 54
Reply 7, posted (10 years 5 months 1 week 1 hour ago) and read 1593 times:

This Snowflake flight to Beirut is only once a week, right? I don't think they want to mess up the Snowflake brand with different aircraft types and levels of service, it's the 737 or nuffink.

VCE, 26,000 pax is only one RJ a day.



fly Saha Air 707s daily from Tehran's downtown Mehrabad to Mashhad, Kish Island and Ahwaz
User currently offlineVCE From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 8, posted (10 years 5 months 1 week 1 hour ago) and read 1574 times:

In fact Snowflake will introduce to VCE a 2 flights a week while Volareweb will start to serve Stockholm (Skavsta?) with 3 flights a week since the next april.


User currently offlineMEA321 From Lebanon, joined Oct 2003, 389 posts, RR: 16
Reply 9, posted (10 years 5 months 6 days 23 hours ago) and read 1489 times:

Snowflake flights from CPH to BEY are once a week on mondays, ARN to BEY twice a week on mondays and fridays.


MEA321
User currently offlineBA From United States of America, joined May 2000, 11153 posts, RR: 59
Reply 10, posted (10 years 5 months 6 days 21 hours ago) and read 1407 times:

ARN-BEY becomes twice weekly starting March 31st. The flight is only on Mondays right now...

Regards



"Generosity is giving more than you can, and pride is taking less than you need." - Khalil Gibran
User currently offlineYegbey01 From United States of America, joined Nov 2003, 1723 posts, RR: 3
Reply 11, posted (10 years 5 months 6 days 19 hours ago) and read 1351 times:

It looks like these tickets have been snapped up by consolidators or tour operators. There's no way they can sell all seats for the entire summer on both the CPH and ARN routes. I couldn't be possible.

User currently offlineMEA321 From Lebanon, joined Oct 2003, 389 posts, RR: 16
Reply 12, posted (10 years 5 months 6 days 19 hours ago) and read 1337 times:

Yegbey01

Considering that there are only 5 Snowflake flights to BEY in June it is very possible that the tickets are sold out to revenue passengers only. Remember that Snowflake is not on the CRS so consolidators can not snatch up those tickets like they can for SK, LH, etc...Snowflake tickets are ONLY available through their website or their telephone reservation centres. This has been discussed before, Copenhagen has a large Arab population from Syria, Lebanon, and Palestine. MEA has also sold out several of its first trips (I think the first three) and there is large demand.

There are a lot of people who wanted to switch to MEA that I know, when they found out MEA would be coming to CPH. They had already bought Snowflake tickets.




MEA321
User currently offlineYegbey01 From United States of America, joined Nov 2003, 1723 posts, RR: 3
Reply 13, posted (10 years 5 months 6 days 18 hours ago) and read 1313 times:

MEA321,

I was referring to the ARN flights. Theye are all sold out. It may very well be that some large Arab travel agency in Stockholm decided to charter all the flights ahaed of time. The tarvel agncy will then sell them at whatever price they wish.


User currently offlineMEA321 From Lebanon, joined Oct 2003, 389 posts, RR: 16
Reply 14, posted (10 years 5 months 6 days 17 hours ago) and read 1282 times:

Yegbey01,

I checked with another source and confirmed, Snowflake tickets can not be sold out to consolidators or tour operators, they are not on the CRS (computer reservation system). Same thing goes for Southwest and Ryanair (Im not sure about jetBlue.) Currently, the ARN flights are only sold out all of June and half of July. There are some others days in earlier months also, but overall I could see it possible that the general public has bought these tickets.

One thing I dont understand is why Snowflake hasn't added frequency to CPH since that is where the major selling is going on, maybe they are trying to promote ARN, or maybe MEA stole some momentum from them.



MEA321
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