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2-5-2/3-3-3 Configuration In 777's! Whats Ya Fave?  
User currently offlineChris78cpr From United Kingdom, joined Feb 2004, 2819 posts, RR: 51
Posted (10 years 4 months 3 weeks 6 days 3 hours ago) and read 4769 times:

I have flown on United/Continental and American Airlines 777's and have expeirianced both types of config! Personnally i prefer the 3-3-3 seating plan as i think it gives you much more freedom if you are stuck in the middle row, however if there are 2 of us travelling i prefer the 2-5-2 config as we can both get an aisle/window seat!!!

What do you guys prefer and why???

Chris


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User currently offlineNonrvsmdmf From United States of America, joined Dec 2003, 186 posts, RR: 0
Reply 1, posted (10 years 4 months 3 weeks 6 days 3 hours ago) and read 4703 times:

For my first 777 trip last week, 3 seats on the outside. I was able to
wangle a row to myself EGKK-KIAH on Sunday. It was great to lay
almost flat and sleep across the pond. Could not do that with two
seats on the outside.



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User currently offlineIflyatldl From United States of America, joined Nov 2003, 1936 posts, RR: 3
Reply 2, posted (10 years 4 months 3 weeks 6 days 3 hours ago) and read 4692 times:

As a rule of thumb, I always say no to the middle seat. That being said, I liked DL's 2x5x2 configuration over 3x3x3. Big grin


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User currently offlineUniTED From Germany, joined Jan 2004, 312 posts, RR: 0
Reply 3, posted (10 years 4 months 3 weeks 6 days 3 hours ago) and read 4655 times:

The 2-5-2 configuration is way better! On United's international 777s at least, the economy cabin needs to be 93% full before they need to use the "E" seats. It is also more pleasant when travelling in pairs to have 2 seats, and not have some drooling stranger between you two.(or around one of you) Once I was flying a UA 757 flight from ORD to LAS and it was miserable! I was between two Chinese people who kept leaning over me and talking loudly to each other. I offered for them to sit together, but they did not want to! Let me tell you, it was completely miserable! Probably the only flight I ever wanted to end!

Cheers,
Chris


User currently offlineFlyLondon From United Kingdom, joined Feb 2004, 377 posts, RR: 0
Reply 4, posted (10 years 4 months 3 weeks 6 days 2 hours ago) and read 4637 times:

Depends on where your seat is. If in one of the two outer seats on 2x5x2 then its better. If you get the middle seat of 5 then you'll be wishing it were 3x3x3

User currently offlineSushka From United States of America, joined Nov 1999, 4784 posts, RR: 14
Reply 5, posted (10 years 4 months 3 weeks 6 days 1 hour ago) and read 4557 times:

2-5-2 It makes me feel like Im really on a widebody.


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User currently offline9V-SVC From Singapore, joined Oct 2001, 1796 posts, RR: 10
Reply 6, posted (10 years 4 months 3 weeks 6 days 1 hour ago) and read 4532 times:

2-5-2 honestly speaking as long as I am not sitting in the middle, that's pretty alright. I always choose the window seat.


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User currently offlineAhsanf28 From Bangladesh, joined Mar 2002, 90 posts, RR: 0
Reply 7, posted (10 years 4 months 3 weeks 6 days ago) and read 4492 times:

Absolutely agree with FlyLondon. It all depends on where your seat is. I have always felt pity for the passenger seating in the middle seat of a 2-5-2 config with two passengers seating on his/her each side. From his/her point of view 3-3-3 is of course better. But when travelling in pair or have a window or aisle seat in the side of a 2-5-2 configuration then you can't help thinking "this is the best configuration."

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User currently offlineIndustrialPate From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 8, posted (10 years 4 months 3 weeks 6 days ago) and read 4479 times:

I perfer a 2-4-3 seating arrangement...

User currently offlineKLM11 From United States of America, joined Dec 2003, 182 posts, RR: 1
Reply 9, posted (10 years 4 months 3 weeks 5 days 23 hours ago) and read 4455 times:

Since I travel alone I prefer the 2-5-2.

--KLM11



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User currently offlineMAS A330 From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 10, posted (10 years 4 months 3 weeks 5 days 22 hours ago) and read 4394 times:

i like 2-3-2 in BUsiness  Big thumbs up



User currently offlineWilcharl From United States of America, joined Jun 2000, 1165 posts, RR: 3
Reply 11, posted (10 years 4 months 3 weeks 5 days 21 hours ago) and read 4370 times:

I prefer to fly on the 767 and get 2-3-2 seating giving a whopping 4 beautiful aisle seats

User currently offlineJe89_w From United States of America, joined Mar 2002, 2360 posts, RR: 9
Reply 12, posted (10 years 4 months 3 weeks 5 days 21 hours ago) and read 4361 times:
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Don't forget, some airlines have 3-4-3 seating on their B772s! Pretty tight I must say!

I prefer 3-3-3 because it is more spread out. 2-5-2 is good for the window seat, but imagine how bad it would be sitting right smack in the middle of the 2-5-2 seating!


User currently offlineBoingGoingGone From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 13, posted (10 years 4 months 3 weeks 5 days 21 hours ago) and read 4354 times:

How about a 2-4-2 with some wider seats. I'm a stick and the current seats are uncomfortable. Couldn't imagine if I put on a couple.

User currently offline9V-SVC From Singapore, joined Oct 2001, 1796 posts, RR: 10
Reply 14, posted (10 years 4 months 3 weeks 5 days 20 hours ago) and read 4312 times:

EK and TG have 3-4-3 seating configuration on the 777s , which other 777 operator also has this configuration?


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User currently offlineUshermittwoch From Germany, joined Jan 2004, 2963 posts, RR: 16
Reply 15, posted (10 years 4 months 3 weeks 5 days 18 hours ago) and read 4256 times:

I prefer the 2-5-2 layout. I don't like to have two people next to me on a long-haul flight when I am at the window. That is why I'd also prefer ANY Airbus and the 767 over a 747.


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User currently offlineMetropolitan From Sweden, joined Feb 2004, 51 posts, RR: 0
Reply 16, posted (10 years 4 months 3 weeks 5 days 18 hours ago) and read 4256 times:

According to TG's own seat map they only have 3-4-3 on the 777-200 including 2-4-2 in business class so I'd guess that it is mainly used on short haul routes.

User currently offlineRichardw From United Kingdom, joined May 2001, 3745 posts, RR: 0
Reply 17, posted (10 years 4 months 3 weeks 5 days 18 hours ago) and read 4247 times:

2-2-2-2

But nobody does that in Economy, yet AFAIK.


User currently offlineAndz From South Africa, joined Feb 2004, 8440 posts, RR: 10
Reply 18, posted (10 years 4 months 3 weeks 5 days 17 hours ago) and read 4190 times:
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Only flown 777 twice, American LHR-ORD-LHR and it was 2-5-2, I think if the load is light then this config is okay, but I'd hate being stuck in the middle of 5 on a full flight, on the return leg I had 5 to myself which was great.

What's with paying $4 or 3 GBP for a beer though??? Too used to free drinks on the routes to and from JNB I guess....



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User currently offlineRichardw From United Kingdom, joined May 2001, 3745 posts, RR: 0
Reply 19, posted (10 years 4 months 3 weeks 5 days 17 hours ago) and read 4184 times:

First Alcoholic drink on AA should be free, then charge for it.

User currently offlineManchesterMAN From United Kingdom, joined Sep 2003, 1215 posts, RR: 1
Reply 20, posted (10 years 4 months 3 weeks 5 days 16 hours ago) and read 4135 times:

Since I tend to travel along or with one other person and always book early and reserve my seat in advance then a 2-5-2 without a doubt. I used to be a fan of the 3-3-3 but travelling alone on a crowded plane with a window seat climbing over two people during a night flight when they are asleep. Terrible.

The best would be a 2-4-3 arrangement which caters for most party sizes and would keep the most people happy. Finnair I think it is has a similar config on their MD-11, so why does nobody give it a go on the 777 - is it just because it looks too messy???



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User currently offlineUnited4ever From United States of America, joined Dec 2003, 291 posts, RR: 2
Reply 21, posted (10 years 4 months 3 weeks 5 days 12 hours ago) and read 4034 times:

I prefer the 2-5-2 layout, but I can see both have their advantages. A plane on 3-3-3 can be a little fuller before the airline has to start sitting strangers next to each other, while the window seat on 2-5-2 is less cramped.

On the 2-5-2 layout only the 'E' seats are 'double excuse me' seats where on the 3-3-3 it is the A and J seats. Coupled with the two directions from an E-seat this theoretically means about 1/4 as many passengers need to be disturbed when the occupants of these seats need to take a dump or whatever (in E row one can alternate sides).

Just my 2p.

Mike

[Edited 2004-02-19 16:53:06]

User currently offlineStefandotde From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 22, posted (10 years 4 months 3 weeks 5 days 12 hours ago) and read 4009 times:

I loved the LH DC 10-configuration 2-5-2. But wasn't nice to have the middle-seat in the middle  Wink/being sarcastic
EK's seat configuration 3-4-3 is also cool: EK has a great image and it seams that the 10th seat doesn't care anybody.


User currently offlineStefandotde From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 23, posted (10 years 4 months 3 weeks 5 days 12 hours ago) and read 3993 times:

I loved the LH DC 10-configuration 2-5-2. But wasn't nice to have the middle-seat in the middle  Wink/being sarcastic
EK's seat configuration 3-4-3 is also cool: EK has a great image and it seams that the 10th seat doesn't care anybody.


User currently offlineFlyCaledonian From United Kingdom, joined Dec 2003, 2066 posts, RR: 3
Reply 24, posted (10 years 4 months 3 weeks 5 days 12 hours ago) and read 3964 times:

Andz, Fly BA then the drink is still free!

Personally prefer 3-3-3, but as UniTED said flight needs to be 93% full before the E seat is used on 2-5-2. Having suffered that E seat LHR-ORD I hate it!

Can't find the thread but sure there was one a couple of weeks back about United having 3-4-2 on some 777s. New layout coming?



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25 VC10BOAC : 1-2-1 on 777 first class gets my vote!
26 Post contains images RIX : 2-5-2. Agree that 2-4-3 would be better. But 2-4-2 in BA WTP+ was the best...
27 Motorhussy : Yeah NZ (Air New Zealand) used to have the 2-4-3 configuration on its old DC-10-30's. Great for the travelling public who'd have the best seating opti
28 MD-90 : 2-4-3 all the way, baby. Although actually 2-4-2 and 2-3-2 is even better! I've never had to sit in the middle of a 5-abreast, but my mother did on a
29 AApilot2b : I always prefer 2-5-2.
30 Aerorobnz : Do any airlines have 2-4-3 on a 777?? I've only flown 3-4-3 on EK 773s. It was pretty good I thought, but am looking forward to SQ 772s to compare.
31 QF744 : one of the chinese carriers has a 3-4-3 configuration - must be China Eastern?
32 Je89_w : Delta and another American airline have 2-4-3. Either CO, UA, or AA. I forgot. A similar topic was posted on another thread in the past.
33 Copenhagenboy : To be honest I think both configurations are terrible, that is why I don't like the 747 as well, I will always prefer the 767 or the A330/A340 family.
34 FunFlyer : 2-5-2, in coach gets my vote, especially if your in the 3rd seat in the middle of the middle in between 2 massive people who seep onto your personal s
35 Antipodean : we have 3-3-3 on BA, which seems to work well. the 2-5-2 config on Malaysian reminds me of the tristars I used to work on with the awful E seat in the
36 FunFlyer : Another thing, why exactly do they have 1-2-1 in F class? Why not 2-1-2 or 1-2-2, it just seems better if your traveling with someone, and you want a
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