LambertMan From United States of America, joined Aug 2003, 2041 posts, RR: 38 Posted (9 years 4 months 3 days ago) and read 2867 times:
Well this is kind of surprising, PHL will start out as a two city market for F9 with the obviuos and the other being LAX. At least that is what it shows on the route map. Sorry if this was something already that has already been brought up.
MSYtristar From United States of America, joined Aug 2005, 6251 posts, RR: 51 Reply 3, posted (9 years 4 months 3 days ago) and read 2761 times:
Wow. I wasn't expecting this from the get go. I think PHL-LAX will be a good market. Interesting move to say the least...but a good one...the fares in PHL-LAX will go down substantially. F9's coach product is much better than what US offers. I can definetely see us getting some market share from US.
LambertMan From United States of America, joined Aug 2003, 2041 posts, RR: 38 Reply 7, posted (9 years 4 months 3 days ago) and read 2748 times:
Possibly they are positioning themselves in PHL if US folds to really make some type of a focus city along the lines of LAX. LAX, DEN, and PHL five years down the road would look real good balance and O/D wise. PIT fans have to be crying about them choosing PHL over them.
UAL747DEN From United States of America, joined Dec 2003, 2226 posts, RR: 12 Reply 15, posted (9 years 4 months 2 days 21 hours ago) and read 2429 times:
Great News!!! I do not think that F9 will be trying to have any kind of hub at PHL what you see now is how it will stay. F9 will not go up against WN and the fact that they are doing LAX is even surprising. Im sure US is not going to be very happy about this but in all reality they cant do anything about it. They are a broke airline just waiting to go out of business.... Great job F9
Kohflot From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR: Reply 16, posted (9 years 4 months 2 days 21 hours ago) and read 2404 times:
Keep in mind, PHL-LAX isn't a move only against USAirways. There's a certain little Chicago-based airline that's had a little experience competing with Frontier and that also operates a few PHL-LAX roundtrips themselves.....
Luv2fly From United States of America, joined May 2003, 11957 posts, RR: 51 Reply 18, posted (9 years 4 months 2 days 20 hours ago) and read 2347 times:
I think it was in reference to UA!!!! US is not a Chicago based carrier.
PVD757 From United States of America, joined Aug 2003, 3375 posts, RR: 18 Reply 20, posted (9 years 4 months 2 days 20 hours ago) and read 2332 times:
Things certainly continue to get interesting, still hoping F9 will fly into PVD. I too am surprised at the LAX flight, F9 will be conpeting against 2 other carriers on the route, something they seem to try avoid when possible...
USAFHummer From United States of America, joined May 2000, 10685 posts, RR: 54 Reply 21, posted (9 years 4 months 2 days 20 hours ago) and read 2297 times:
Chalk me up as well for being shocked at the PHL-LAX by F9 announcement (which will be their longest flight I believe?)...whats next for F9?
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Kohflot From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR: Reply 22, posted (9 years 4 months 2 days 20 hours ago) and read 2287 times:
The more I think about this, the more I think it's a pre-emptive move.. against America West and ATA. Both have been opportunistically adding transcons. With the problems at US, it was likely only a matter of time before either (or both) of them move in with flights from the west coast. Frontier's boldly staking a claim before it happens...
It likely doesn't help Independence Air either.. just more LCC saturation in their markets before they get off the ground..
Rthrbeflying86 From United States of America, joined Oct 2003, 243 posts, RR: 1 Reply 23, posted (9 years 4 months 2 days 19 hours ago) and read 2224 times:
So what's the news on F9's gate space at PHL? I didn't see anything in their press release.
NWAFA From United States of America, joined Dec 2003, 1893 posts, RR: 16 Reply 24, posted (9 years 4 months 2 days 19 hours ago) and read 2179 times:
What is the story of "independance air"...where? when?
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25 Dia77: USAFHummer, DEN-ANC will actually be F9's longest flight (2399 miles). It's 4 miles longer than LAX-PHL (2395 miles), according to F9's website.
26 Flashmeister: WOW - PHL-LAX total price is $218 with taxes. That's cheap. Hope F9 can make some money on this route...
27 Flyboy7974: the smartest thing about this new move is that frontier attacks two routes that are dominated by the alliance between usairways and united, they have
28 Flyboy7974: the smartest thing about this new move is that frontier attacks two routes that are dominated by the alliance between usairways and united, they have
29 F9Fan: I like the move to PHL. Did anyone notice that the LAX-PHL flight number is 1776? Cute. A focus city at PHL is intriguing. I think it could work bette
30 Haveric: F9Fan -- so long as US remains a viable carrier, there is no gate space for a mini-F9 hub at PHL. However, there is talk of building a hammerhead on T
31 DCA-ROCguy: I agree, Kohflot. Sounds like Frontier doesn't want to be left out of the LCC transcon ballgame. But their current route system doesn't offer many tra
32 Carfield: Well the new F9 schedule from LAX to PHL is both redeye departures. Leaving PHL around 9pm and arriving LA around 11pm... the return will leave LA aro
33 DIA: Here's the official press release on F9's site (with flight times): http://www.frontierairlines.com/news/articleDisplay.asp?article=/general/2004/pr_0
34 Elwood64151: http://www.frontierairlines.com/news/articleDisplay.asp?article=/general/2004/pr_02192004.news Frontier Airlines Heads East with New Service (Feb. 19,
35 Jaws707: A little off topic, but does Frontier still have an agreement with Mesa? I found some CRJ-200 photos painted in the Frontier colors that were operated
36 Scottb: Another somewhat off-topic observation -- flights 1775 and 1776 seem to be Frontier's first regularly scheduled flight numbers above 1000 operated on
37 Mariner: Jaws707: No. Mesa ended its realtionship with Frontier in order to fly Express for UAL out of DEN. This left Frontier free, happily, to find someone e