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Canjet Announces YYZ To MDW!  
User currently offlineCaptaingomes From Canada, joined Feb 2001, 6413 posts, RR: 55
Posted (10 years 8 months 5 days 20 hours ago) and read 2805 times:

Starting on June 4th, Canjet will commence flights from Toronto to Chicago Midway airport! This is really interesting news, as it looks like Canjet is meneuvering around Westjet. They were quick to jump into Hamilton Airport when Westjet announced they were cutting operations there, plus they are now starting trans-border flights in a business market. Once again, this year has barely begun, but it is proving to be incredibly interesting.

http://www.newswire.ca/en/releases/archive/February2004/20/c2270.html


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User currently offlineDCA-ROCguy From United States of America, joined Apr 2000, 4507 posts, RR: 34
Reply 1, posted (10 years 8 months 5 days 20 hours ago) and read 2778 times:

Let the transborder low-fare revolution begin. LCC flights between large US and Canadian business centers are long, long overdue.

Interesting that it's the small Canadian LCC's, not WestJet, that are so far entering the high-density northern/ midwestern US business centers. JetsGo serves Newark. WestJet is playing it safe with their first round of upcoming transborder flights by flying only to southern US sun-spots. And that's something Air Transat, etc., already do. Yes, WestJet is going to serve LAX which is a business center, but it's still a big tourist route.

Whatever LCC (US or Canadian) enters routes such as YYZ-BWI, YYZ-PHL, YUL-BOS, YUL-BWI, YVR-BWI, YVR-EWR, will probably do extremely well.

Jim



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User currently offlineAirbusfanYYZ From Canada, joined Oct 2002, 1435 posts, RR: 25
Reply 2, posted (10 years 8 months 5 days 20 hours ago) and read 2761 times:

Excellent route for Canjet IMHO.
A nice entry into the profitable business market between the GTA and Chicagoland.

Cheers,
Kaz



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User currently offlineBoeing757/767 From United States of America, joined Jun 1999, 2282 posts, RR: 1
Reply 3, posted (10 years 8 months 5 days 20 hours ago) and read 2757 times:

I believe Canadian Airlines served this route shortly in the mid-90s.


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User currently offlineFly_yhm From Canada, joined Dec 2000, 1681 posts, RR: 10
Reply 4, posted (10 years 8 months 5 days 20 hours ago) and read 2749 times:

I think that LLC would be just as succesful out of smaller secondary airports depending on the catchment area though.


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User currently offlineAirbusfanYYZ From Canada, joined Oct 2002, 1435 posts, RR: 25
Reply 5, posted (10 years 8 months 5 days 20 hours ago) and read 2715 times:

DCA-ROCguy,

Is there really that much of a market out of BWI? That's nice to hear. I was always under the impression BWI was a declining market.

Cheers,
Kaz



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User currently offlineYOW From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 6, posted (10 years 8 months 5 days 20 hours ago) and read 2696 times:

Yes CP did indeed fly YYZ-MDW in the early 90s before they were granted slots into ORD. BWI used to be served from YYZ, YOW and YUL on US. Now it's relegated to Jazz from YYZ. YOW and YUL's business shifted to DCA and/or IAD. More great news for CanJet.

User currently offlineAirman99o From Canada, joined Aug 1999, 975 posts, RR: 1
Reply 7, posted (10 years 8 months 5 days 20 hours ago) and read 2685 times:

Way to go Canjet.
Wow interesting to see they are doing this. Funny thing is that you hardly hear anything from Canjet. Then out of the blue Planes being ordered then hush hush again now they talk about going into newer markets. I wish them all the best.

Airman99o



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User currently offlineMexicana757 From United States of America, joined Apr 2001, 3045 posts, RR: 28
Reply 8, posted (10 years 8 months 5 days 19 hours ago) and read 2646 times:

This is great news for MDW. When I saw this, I almost fell out of my chair. This route should give people another another choice of flying into Canada. This will bring lowfares for those people who want to travel in Canada from Chicago and reverse. Presently we have UA, AC and AA flying to Canada out Chicago/ORD.

After MX's departure from MDW, CanJet will be the only international airline into MDW. I wish CanJet good luck on this route and hope its profitable. Great choice by CanJet. Twelve flights a week is a lot to start off. I would think that 7 a week would be a good number to start off with. But the people at CanJet know what they are doing.  Big thumbs up  Smile/happy/getting dizzy

Will this service be seasonal or will it be year round?


User currently offlineTOLtommy From United States of America, joined Dec 2003, 3297 posts, RR: 4
Reply 9, posted (10 years 8 months 5 days 19 hours ago) and read 2635 times:

BWI a declining market? Hardly. Only if you are a US Airways FF. WN has a major presence there, and FL is building it into a focus city. BWI has the reputation as the low cost airport in the Baltimore-Washington area.

User currently offlineDCA-ROCguy From United States of America, joined Apr 2000, 4507 posts, RR: 34
Reply 10, posted (10 years 8 months 5 days 19 hours ago) and read 2596 times:

BWI is now by far the busiest airport in the DC-Baltimore metroglom, largely due to Southwest and AirTran as TOLtommy notes. I figure BWI would likely be the first choice of Canadian LCC's to the region.

DCA is slot-controlled and no international-eligible slots are for sale right now, as far as I know. Dulles is on the far west-end of the region, and BWI sits conveniently between both cities.

And of course, either Southwest or AirTran could decide to start flying transborder routes (or JetBlue at IAD). I haven't read or heard anything though about plans by any of these carriers to start transborder flights. There were rumors here a few months back about JetBlue flying JFK-HAM or JFK-YYZ but JetBlue itself hasn't announced any plans.

Jim



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User currently offlineAirbusfanYYZ From Canada, joined Oct 2002, 1435 posts, RR: 25
Reply 11, posted (10 years 8 months 5 days 19 hours ago) and read 2544 times:

Wow, pardon my ignorance. As you say, it may be the next new market served by a Cdn. LCC.

Cheers,
Kaz



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User currently offlineScottb From United States of America, joined Jul 2000, 6793 posts, RR: 32
Reply 12, posted (10 years 8 months 5 days 19 hours ago) and read 2520 times:

I think one factor will tend to diminish the growth potential of LCC's in the transborder market, though -- that being the overall level of taxes and fees levied on airfares. The typical minimum amount of tax per transborder segment seems to be in the range of $40 U.S.; considering that some of WN's existing fares are even lower than that, travelers would pay more in tax than airfare on some itineraries. I do realize this is already a problem for the Canadian LCC's especially, but I believe it will ultimately limit the market somewhat for transborder flying.

User currently offlineCaptaingomes From Canada, joined Feb 2001, 6413 posts, RR: 55
Reply 13, posted (10 years 8 months 5 days 18 hours ago) and read 2459 times:

Speaking of LCC travel between the US and Canada, we're still waiting for an announcement by Jetblue, who is well known to be interested in the YYZ market. Would be nice to see others also start flying here as well.


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User currently offlineDCA-ROCguy From United States of America, joined Apr 2000, 4507 posts, RR: 34
Reply 14, posted (10 years 8 months 5 days 18 hours ago) and read 2442 times:

about JetBlue flying JFK-HAM or JFK-YYZ

Um, that should read JFK-YHM or JFK-YYZ. I meant Hamilton, Ontario not Hamburg, Germany.

If the taxes on transborder flights are that high, I would not be surprised to see a lobbying effort by low-fare carriers to have them lowered. Who charges what amount of tax, by what means? There's a huge amount of business potential that lower taxes on transborder flights could encourage. It would benefit incumbent network carriers too, I would think.

Jim



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User currently offlineTennisace From Canada, joined Feb 2001, 219 posts, RR: 0
Reply 15, posted (10 years 8 months 5 days 17 hours ago) and read 2421 times:

I guess that throws the rumour that Canjet was looking at Rockford, Illinois (according to yyznews.com) as an alternative to Chicago out the window. Way to go Canjet. I guess U.S. bound passengers would pre-clear customs in Toronto (?).

User currently offlineCkfred From United States of America, joined Apr 2001, 5272 posts, RR: 1
Reply 16, posted (10 years 8 months 5 days 17 hours ago) and read 2414 times:

I would like to CanJet possibly add seasonal service from MDW to YHZ. As it is now, traveling from the Midwest to YHZ involves connecting at YYZ, YOW, YUL, BOS, or one of the New York airports.

User currently offlineLuv2fly From United States of America, joined May 2003, 12119 posts, RR: 49
Reply 17, posted (10 years 8 months 5 days 17 hours ago) and read 2405 times:
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Didn't ValueJet have flights from IAD to Montreal for a short period of time?


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User currently offlineOlympus69 From Canada, joined Jun 2002, 1737 posts, RR: 7
Reply 18, posted (10 years 8 months 5 days 17 hours ago) and read 2405 times:

DCA-ROCGuy,

WestJet is playing it safe with their first round of upcoming transborder flights by flying only to southern US sun-spots

WS is also looking at EWR and MDW. Nothing definite on that.


User currently offlineSprxflySWA From United States of America, joined Nov 2003, 597 posts, RR: 0
Reply 19, posted (10 years 8 months 5 days 17 hours ago) and read 2395 times:

Why would they have to preclear at YYZ? MDW has intl arr area, since they get the ATA flights from Mex,Caribbean,etc.

Did not know MX was leaving MDW, but good riddance.


User currently offlineETStar From Canada, joined Jan 2004, 2103 posts, RR: 7
Reply 20, posted (10 years 8 months 5 days 17 hours ago) and read 2386 times:

That's great news! All transborder tickets are overpriced IMHO, and it's about time we got some LC alternatives. Tired of driving down to SEA.

User currently offlineCactusA319 From United States of America, joined Jan 2000, 2918 posts, RR: 25
Reply 21, posted (10 years 8 months 5 days 17 hours ago) and read 2360 times:

Did not know MX was leaving MDW, but good riddance.

They left last year. Why good riddance?

Good to see an international airline at MDW again...



User currently onlineNoise From United States of America, joined Dec 1999, 1797 posts, RR: 4
Reply 22, posted (10 years 8 months 5 days 15 hours ago) and read 2289 times:

I have a question...which aircraft will CanJet use for this route? Doesn't CanJet only have six 737-200s? I don't think this is enough will all the expansion they are doing lately. Have they aquired more aircrafts?

Thanks


User currently offlineCaptaingomes From Canada, joined Feb 2001, 6413 posts, RR: 55
Reply 23, posted (10 years 8 months 5 days 15 hours ago) and read 2276 times:

Chris, one 737-500 is joining the fleet soon. As far as I know, it will be interchangeable with the 200's in the fleet due to having the same seating capacity.


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User currently offlineLymanm From Canada, joined Jan 2001, 1140 posts, RR: 1
Reply 24, posted (10 years 8 months 5 days 15 hours ago) and read 2252 times:

"Why would they have to preclear at YYZ?"

Pre-customs clearence at the airport of departure (offered in Canada at the major airports - you basically "enter" the USA while still on Canadian soil) saves an IMMENSE amount of time. Pre-customs at departure typically has more manageable lines, and allows the flight to techincally be "domestic". That way, less hassle arriving in the USA for crew, aircraft and especially passengers.



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25 Yegbey01 : SprxflySWA, In total 7 airports in Canada have US preclearance facilities. Vancouver, Edmonton, Calgary, Winnipeg, Toronto, Ottawa and Montreal.
26 Klyk1980 : My first two reactions to this thread were: "Oh My God" and "That's Great" I would like to know the schedule of Canjet's YYZ-ORD. Hopefully they have
27 Captaingomes : The press release says two flights per day on weekdays and one flight per day on weekends. And the flights are to MDW, and not ORD. I don't have any o
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