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Mexicana And Aeromexico Discountinued Routes  
User currently offlineDFWMEX From United States of America, joined Dec 2003, 112 posts, RR: 0
Posted (10 years 1 month 4 weeks 19 hours ago) and read 3833 times:

I only remember from the mid-80's to date about Mexicana's and Aeromexico's discountinued routes:
AM:
Bogota, Caracas, Montreal, Toronto, Frankfurt, Rome, Tampico, Lima

MX:
Harlingen, DFW, Seattle, Baltimore, Philadelphia, JKF

Do you know which other destinations used to be served by these carriers in their entire history? I am just curious. Recently I saw a very old photo of AM in Ciudad Valles, SLP in Mexico and I didn't know they had an airport back in the 60-70's. This brought my curiousity to know what destinations were at once served.

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User currently offlinePlanenutz From United States of America, joined Dec 1999, 1282 posts, RR: 10
Reply 1, posted (10 years 1 month 4 weeks 19 hours ago) and read 3795 times:

AM used to fly to TUS from both Guaymas and Hermosillo with DC9-80s before hte routes were taken over by Aero Littoral.


Not all who wander are lost....
User currently offlineJoseMEX From Mexico, joined Oct 1999, 1539 posts, RR: 25
Reply 2, posted (10 years 1 month 4 weeks 19 hours ago) and read 3770 times:



MX: STL (in the 70's), SDQ, SJU.

AM: MSY, several years ago (maybe they still fly there?)


User currently offlineHMOMX From Mexico, joined Jun 2001, 55 posts, RR: 0
Reply 3, posted (10 years 1 month 4 weeks 17 hours ago) and read 3725 times:

AM also used to fly from Hermosillo to Ontario, CA.

User currently offlineAm777 From Mexico, joined Feb 2001, 83 posts, RR: 1
Reply 4, posted (10 years 1 month 4 weeks 9 hours ago) and read 3655 times:

I would like to add to the list

AM : Detroit, Panama, Buenos Aires, Mexicali, Ciudad del Carmen, Uruapan, Manzanillo, Toluca, Puebla (Lisboa and Bermuda former Aerovias Guest routes). AM continue flying to Lima

MX: Kansas City, Tampa Bay, Panama, _Montego Bay, Chetumal, Tuxtla Gutierrez


User currently offlineDFWMEX From United States of America, joined Dec 2003, 112 posts, RR: 0
Reply 5, posted (10 years 1 month 3 weeks 6 days 21 hours ago) and read 3547 times:

AM777,

Are the internatonal routes you listed operated on a AM flight or codeshare? PBC was always flown on codeshare using Aeromar planes. I hope you are not counting the Lan Chile codeshare to Buenos Aires (via SCL). So is AM still flying on their own? I thought they were using Taca Peru as codeshare.


User currently offlineAm777 From Mexico, joined Feb 2001, 83 posts, RR: 1
Reply 6, posted (10 years 1 month 3 weeks 6 days 9 hours ago) and read 3474 times:


No, all the flights were operated by AM planes, the route to EZE was flown in the 70's with DC8, and briefly in the early 90´s with DC-10. About PBC, and Uruapan they were operated by DC9 in mid 80´s. AM code share with TACA Peru but they still fly 4x week with 757.


User currently offlineChepos From Puerto Rico, joined Dec 2000, 6177 posts, RR: 11
Reply 7, posted (10 years 1 month 3 weeks 6 days 9 hours ago) and read 3457 times:

I believe Mexicana also operated a MIA-SDQ flight that was also discontinued. And MEX-SJU has been discontinued a couple of times, at one time the flight operated MEX-CUN-SJU.
Chepos



Fly the Flag!!!!
User currently offlineEddieDude From Mexico, joined Nov 2003, 7523 posts, RR: 43
Reply 8, posted (10 years 1 month 3 weeks 6 days 8 hours ago) and read 3436 times:

AM indeed discontinued the MX), Mexico">MEX-CUN-MSY route. Now AM is sadly absent from MSY.

In connection with New York City, I recall having read here that MX used to fly to JFK and AM to EWR so they simply switched destinations. Is that correct?

Also, did the MX flight to SDQ originate in MIA or in CUN?



Next flights: MEX-GRU (AM 77E), GRU-GIG (JJ A320), SDU-CGH (G3 73H), GRU-MEX (JJ A332).
User currently offlineAM744 From Mexico, joined Jun 2001, 1752 posts, RR: 0
Reply 9, posted (10 years 1 month 3 weeks 4 days 1 hour ago) and read 3307 times:

Am777:

Are you sure AM flew to BUE in the early 90's? Also, I don't think AM has never flown to Puebla (PBC) with DC-9.

EddieDude:

Aeromexico has flown to JFK since 1959 or something, when they started flying to the then called Ildewild Airport with Bristol Britannia turboprops.

MX indeed used to fly to JFK, but later switched to Newark.


User currently offlineAm777 From Mexico, joined Feb 2001, 83 posts, RR: 1
Reply 10, posted (10 years 1 month 3 weeks 4 days 1 hour ago) and read 3292 times:

Yes I´m sure they had flights to EZE, even I saw an AM plane in EZE back in 1993, also I have a timetable. About PBC they operated DC9-15 to GDL and probably MTY.

User currently offlineDFWMEX From United States of America, joined Dec 2003, 112 posts, RR: 0
Reply 11, posted (10 years 1 month 3 weeks 3 days 20 hours ago) and read 3242 times:

I remember that AeroCalfornia was the sole operator of the GDL-PBC route and Aeromar MX), Mexico">MEX-PBC, PBC-MTY. AM used to operate the ACA-TLC-MTY.

Also, I forgot, when I lived in Tampico back in 1984, MX used to fly 727 MX), Mexico">MEX-TAM-MTY and back.

Also the discountined flights to/from DFW with stops (direct flights):
MX), Mexico">MEX-ACA-DFW
MX), Mexico">MEX-MTY-DFW
MX), Mexico">MEX-CUN-DFW
MX), Mexico">MEX-MID-CZM-DFW
MX), Mexico">MEX-ZIH-ZLO-DFW
MX), Mexico">MEX-PVR-DFW
MX), Mexico">MEX-GDL-MX), Mexico">MEX
MX), Mexico">MEX-GDL-MZT-MTY-DFW
MX), Mexico">MEX-MZT-DFW (not very sure)
and of course the non-stop flight MX), Mexico">MEX-DFW discountinued in 1986 and re-instated in 1992 and terminated in early 1993 (all DFW services).

I used most of those routes except the ACA route and the long GDL-MZT-MTY (I wish I had time to do that one, must have been a fun one).

Also AM used to do DC10 MX), Mexico">MEX-MIA-MAD-ORY (before they switched to CDG).


User currently offlineAA623BDLSJU From United States of America, joined Aug 2003, 354 posts, RR: 2
Reply 12, posted (10 years 1 month 3 weeks 3 days 6 hours ago) and read 3154 times:

How long ago did Mexicana drop SJU?

I remember when seeing their check-in area when I used to travel SJU-US during the summers in the 90's and I think I remember seeing a MX), Mexico">MEX-SJU or vice versa on the MX website some while ago.

Anyone has any thoughts on that?



User currently offlineEddieDude From Mexico, joined Nov 2003, 7523 posts, RR: 43
Reply 13, posted (10 years 1 month 3 weeks 3 days 6 hours ago) and read 3131 times:

MX also dropped MDW last year (I don't recall which cities in Mexico it flew to/from MDW but not MX), Mexico">MEX definitely). Now MX consolidated all its flights to/from Chicago in ORD.


Next flights: MEX-GRU (AM 77E), GRU-GIG (JJ A320), SDU-CGH (G3 73H), GRU-MEX (JJ A332).
User currently offlineAM744 From Mexico, joined Jun 2001, 1752 posts, RR: 0
Reply 14, posted (10 years 1 month 3 weeks 3 days 6 hours ago) and read 3120 times:

Yes I´m sure they had flights to EZE, even I saw an AM plane in EZE back in 1993

Isn't there the chance that it was one of the DC-10s that AM tranfered to AeroPeru, when it was a subsidiary and shared a very similar livery? Sorry, but I would be surprised to learn that AM flew to Buenos Aires at any point since the 70's.

Greetings


User currently offlineVectorVictor From United States of America, joined Feb 2005, 0 posts, RR: 0
Reply 15, posted (10 years 1 month 3 weeks 3 days 6 hours ago) and read 3106 times:

Mexicana operated the following routes at one time:

San Antonio-Monterrey via 727-200
San Antonio-Cancun via 727-200


User currently offlineLatinPlane From United States of America, joined Dec 1999, 2693 posts, RR: 14
Reply 16, posted (10 years 1 month 3 weeks 3 days 5 hours ago) and read 3083 times:

AM744

EZE was indeed served by AM in the early-mid 90s. It was flown nonstop 2x a week. It was discontinued along with the FCO and FRA due to 94/95 tequila crisis.

I have an old Escala magazine that I wish I can show you that proves it.

 Smile LatinPlane



User currently offlineAm777 From Mexico, joined Feb 2001, 83 posts, RR: 1
Reply 17, posted (10 years 1 month 3 weeks 3 days 5 hours ago) and read 3061 times:

Isn't there the chance that it was one of the DC-10s that AM tranfered to AeroPeru, when it was a subsidiary and shared a very similar livery? Sorry, but I would be surprised to learn that AM flew to Buenos Aires at any point since the 70's.

Greetings


I will repeat I´m sure, they had flights to EZE, first was CUN - EZE, later MEX-CUN-EZE, and finally MEX - EZE nonstop, AM744, if you still have any doubt, I will try to find a timetable of that time to show you. BTW Aeroperu planes had different tail paint.


User currently offlineAM744 From Mexico, joined Jun 2001, 1752 posts, RR: 0
Reply 18, posted (10 years 1 month 3 weeks 2 days 16 hours ago) and read 2970 times:

Well. We learn something new everyday... didn't know about EZE flights. Thanks for the clarification.



User currently offlineJoseMEX From Mexico, joined Oct 1999, 1539 posts, RR: 25
Reply 19, posted (10 years 1 month 3 weeks 2 days 12 hours ago) and read 2938 times:



AM did fly to EZE, although the outbound flight made a short refueling stop in ACA (they couldn't take off with a full load from MEX).

The return flight was EZE-MEX nonstop.


User currently offlineAMX From Mexico, joined Oct 2001, 91 posts, RR: 0
Reply 20, posted (10 years 1 month 3 weeks 2 days 8 hours ago) and read 2898 times:

AMX dropped the CEN segment on the TIJ-HMO-CEN-CUL-GDL-MEX 100-101 flight in the late 90's, also flights 102-103 (MEX-GDL-CEN-GDL-MEX). These flights were later switched to 2 flights only, one being CEN-MEX and the other one CEN-LMM-MEX on MD87's (most of the time).

The CEN-HMO route was taken over by AeroLitoral with a daily N/S flight only, as well as CEN-GDL.

AMX also had about 6 years ago a CEN-HMO-LAX, but sadly it didn't last long.

Overall, these movements are due to the fact that HMO was being converted into an AMX hub at the time (and still is).


Seinfeld @ HMO



Arriba Sonora!!!
User currently offlineMexicana757 From United States of America, joined Apr 2001, 3019 posts, RR: 29
Reply 21, posted (10 years 1 month 3 weeks 2 days 8 hours ago) and read 2872 times:

Eddiedude

Mexicana flew to Guadalajara, Zacatecas and Morelia from MDW. Basically all routes that they fly out of ORD.

 Smile/happy/getting dizzy


User currently offlineMarcus From Mexico, joined Apr 2001, 1766 posts, RR: 2
Reply 22, posted (10 years 1 month 3 weeks 2 days 7 hours ago) and read 2859 times:

Didn't AM's Aerolitoral use to fly Mexicali-San Diego?


Kids!....we are going to the happiest place on earth...TIJUANA! signed: Krusty the Clown
User currently offlineSJU767 From Puerto Rico, joined Feb 2004, 114 posts, RR: 0
Reply 23, posted (10 years 1 month 3 weeks 2 days 7 hours ago) and read 2833 times:


AA623BDLSJU
How long ago did Mexicana drop SJU? .

The flight has been disc. for about 3 years now.. the problem was that it was 50% charter by a local tvl agcy and they were not selling well.


User currently offlineAmx757 From Mexico, joined Jun 2000, 12 posts, RR: 0
Reply 24, posted (10 years 1 month 3 weeks 2 days 7 hours ago) and read 2844 times:

I remember:

MX:
Cd. México - Tampico - Monterrey - Harlingen (80´s)
Cd. México - Tampico - Monterrey - San Antonio (80´s)
Cd. México - San Juan, Puerto Rico
Cd. México - Cancún - Philadelphia
Cd. México - Puerto Vallarta - Mazatlán - Seattle
Cd. México - Los Cabos - Seattle.
from San Antonio --> Cancún, Mérida, Guadalajara, Cancún
from Dallas --> Cancún, Méxida., Guadalajara, Cancún, La Paz, Los Cabos, Mazatlán.
Cd.México - Mazatlán - Ciudad Juárez - Denver
Dallas - Cozumel - Cancún (the shortest MX route... som 60km CZM - CUN)

All operated with Boeing 727-200 Advanced

Cd.México - Acapulco - Chicago (FLT MX 802, DC-10-15)

AM:
Cd. México - Bogota (DC-8-51) ... 80´s
Cd. México - Panama City (DC-8-51) .. 80´s
Cd. México - Cancún - New York (MD-80, DC-10-15)
Zihuatanjero - Cd.México - New York (DC-10-15)
Acapulco - Cd.México - New York (DC-10-15)
Acapulco - New York (DC-10-15)
Cancún - New York (DC-10-15)
Cd. México - Miami - Madrid - Paris (DC-10-30)
Cd. México - Cancún - Madrid - Roma (DC-10-30) ... 90´s
Cd. México - Cancún - Paris - Frankfurt (DC-10-30)... 90´s
Cd. México - Uruapan (DC-9-15)
Cd. México - Poza Rica (DC-9-15)
Cd. México - Guadalajara - Loreto - Los Angeles (DC-9-15)
CD.MÉXICO - CIUDAD VICTORIA .... flight AM 248 (MX), Mexico">MEX 0655AM -CVM 0750AM)/249 (CVM 0815AM - MX), Mexico">MEX 0905)!!! DC-9-15 ... begin Apr/30/1982 "Dia del Niño".. ended in 1986. (I live in CIudad Victoria)
Cd.México - Tampico
Cd.Veracruz (DC-9-30)
Cd.México - Acapulco - Toronto (DC-8-51) ... 80´s
Cd.México - Acapulco - Montreal (DC-8-51) ... 80´s
from Cancún ---> Toronto and Montral (DC-8-51) ... 80´s


25 Amx757 : and....... AM: Monterrey - Toluca - Acapulco (DC-9-15)... 80´s Mérida - Villahermosa - Oaxaca - Acapulco - Guadalajara ... 80´s I dont remember if
26 EddieDude : AM does not currently fly to EZE or to GIG. I don't know if AM used in the past 752's in the MEX-GRU routes but. today, AM uses 762's and, on occasion
27 Post contains images LatinPlane : AM used to fly LAX-MEX-LIM-GRU with the 752 enjoying 5th freedom rights between LIM and GRU thanks to AeroPeru. When AeroPeru was shut down, AM contin
28 VC745D : Flew SAT-Monterrey-San Luis Potosi (12-26-68) and return (1-5-87)--Mexicana 727-200s.
29 Coronado990 : AM once flew SAN-PVR non-stop. Also SAN-GDL, SAN-MEX & SAN-HMO.
30 JoseMEX : AM flew ACA-ZIH for a time in the early 80's. I think the flight went on to GDL or MEX. They lost one of their DC-9's on an accident while in flight
31 AR385 : Flew early 80's MEX-Harlingen so it must have been a nonstop at some point. It was mid-December and terrible weather. Missed-apprached two times with
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