Srbmod From United States of America, joined Mar 2001, 16896 posts, RR: 51 Reply 1, posted (9 years 3 months 4 weeks 21 hours ago) and read 4750 times:
The more I see the Embraer 170, the more I like it. I remember back in October one of the demonstrator/prototype a/c was @ ATL, and I was like a kid seeing a shiny new toy as it taxied down the taxiway.
CoTXDFW777AA From United States of America, joined Feb 2004, 321 posts, RR: 1 Reply 2, posted (9 years 3 months 4 weeks 21 hours ago) and read 4713 times:
Wow. That looks awesome I hope the other majors adopt them. Does the 170 and 190 have any fleet compatibility with the 135 and 145?
CoTXDFW777AA From United States of America, joined Feb 2004, 321 posts, RR: 1 Reply 5, posted (9 years 3 months 4 weeks 21 hours ago) and read 4640 times:
"How many will they get up and flying before the fold?" Good point b/c if US folds that means someone can pick up some brand new ac at a good price. I wonder if that is affecting them selling.
-COTXDFW777AA
Embqa From United States of America, joined Oct 2003, 9292 posts, RR: 12 Reply 6, posted (9 years 3 months 4 weeks 21 hours ago) and read 4551 times:
Photos of the Embraer 170 in USAirways Express have been on Airliners.net before, but still a nice looking aircraft. This past week Embraer received its full JAA/FAA Type Certificate and delivery's will begin immediately. Also, last week they rolled out the bigger Embraer 190.........which is just a longer version of the -170.
When Embraer built the EMB-135 concept, they just took a production 145 aircraft and cut out two plugs (one fwd and one aft of the wing) and riveted it back together.
[Edited 2004-02-22 17:58:25]
"It's not the size of the dog in the fight, but the size of the fight in the dog"
DTW757 From United States of America, joined Oct 2003, 1424 posts, RR: 2 Reply 7, posted (9 years 3 months 4 weeks 21 hours ago) and read 4521 times:
Which carrier is getting these A/C? I'm guessing that US is not. It's got to be one of the following carriers.
Regional Airlines Headquarters
US Airways Express
Flight Number Range
Air Midwest Airlines, Inc.2
Wichita, Kan.
5425-5599
Penguinflies From United States of America, joined Apr 2000, 975 posts, RR: 0 Reply 8, posted (9 years 3 months 4 weeks 20 hours ago) and read 4447 times:
Actually, none of the above, the first 85 goes to Mid-Atlantic Airways.
Embqa From United States of America, joined Oct 2003, 9292 posts, RR: 12 Reply 9, posted (9 years 3 months 4 weeks 20 hours ago) and read 4450 times:
The USAirways Embraer 170's are going to 'Main Line'..... but here lies the problem from what I know. Mid Atlantic Airlines, the division that will the 170 is FULLY owned by main line, but the flight crews will NOT fall under the same union contract, and this has caused some rift.
"It's not the size of the dog in the fight, but the size of the fight in the dog"
Usairways85 From United States of America, joined Nov 2001, 3114 posts, RR: 7 Reply 10, posted (9 years 3 months 4 weeks 20 hours ago) and read 4444 times:
US is in fact taking delivery of these planes into their new MidAtlantic Division, not a regional affiliate(as of now at least)
However, i believe there are talks to send some planes to a regional affiliate, Chautauqua being the likely canidate i think.
JBLUA320 From United States of America, joined May 2002, 3163 posts, RR: 20 Reply 11, posted (9 years 3 months 4 weeks 20 hours ago) and read 4331 times:
Looks awesome! I booked a trip and will be flying on one in April.
Sushka From United States of America, joined Nov 1999, 4784 posts, RR: 16 Reply 12, posted (9 years 3 months 4 weeks 18 hours ago) and read 4170 times:
Yeah I like it too. I think it looks like an airplane of the future!
Sean-SAN- From United States of America, joined Aug 2002, 752 posts, RR: 1 Reply 13, posted (9 years 3 months 4 weeks 17 hours ago) and read 4038 times:
Mid-Atlantic Airways is kind of a sub-mainline link to US Airways.. the pilots get paid very low wages (Captains max out around $58K, so it's worse than Mesa). It's quite sad actually, these old US Airways pilots must really be desperate, I wonder why they don't just move on to greener pastures at Southwest, ATA, Airtran, etc.
Penguinflies From United States of America, joined Apr 2000, 975 posts, RR: 0 Reply 14, posted (9 years 3 months 4 weeks 17 hours ago) and read 3993 times:
Cory6188 From United States of America, joined Feb 2004, 2686 posts, RR: 6 Reply 15, posted (9 years 3 months 4 weeks 17 hours ago) and read 3895 times:
I think it is so neat to see a RJ (or quasi-RJ, depending on how you look at it) with engines under the wings. I'm used to the engines at the back look for RJ's - I think this looks much more stylish.
Sean-SAN- From United States of America, joined Aug 2002, 752 posts, RR: 1 Reply 16, posted (9 years 3 months 4 weeks 16 hours ago) and read 3783 times:
Those US Airways furloughs have (had?) upto 15 years seniority at US Air.... and now look what it's got them. Pilots at Mesa make more than they do.
ScottysAir From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR: Reply 17, posted (9 years 3 months 4 weeks 16 hours ago) and read 3709 times:
Wow!! Those are looking very good pics of EMB-170 aircraft and when will able running with their city? It would be very wonderful to flying into first of US Airways Express.
Tpowaleny From United States of America, joined Sep 2002, 98 posts, RR: 0 Reply 18, posted (9 years 3 months 4 weeks 10 hours ago) and read 3372 times:
From what I understand, MidAtlantic will be operated by formally furloughed pilots and flight attendants.
Better flying at low salary than no flying at all.
Ouboy79 From United States of America, joined Nov 2001, 4055 posts, RR: 23 Reply 19, posted (9 years 3 months 4 weeks 10 hours ago) and read 3315 times:
Something to note...the MDA contract was modeled after Eagle. Also...US Airways ALPA accepted it - and they are among the hardest unions to bargin with.
Any opinion/comment posted is that of my own and not that of Southwest Airlines Co.
ATL2CDG From United States of America, joined Jan 2002, 296 posts, RR: 12 Reply 20, posted (9 years 3 months 4 weeks 9 hours ago) and read 3199 times:
All:
As a flight attendant for Delta Connection, I would love to get a hold of one of the airplanes for a day and just pick it apart. At 6'1 and 230 lbs, I'm getting over the 'cozy cabins' of the CRJ200 and CRJ700 (although the CRJ700 is admittedly better than the CRJ200); I've heard the Embraer170 cabins are considerably more roomy and passenger friendly.
I guess it's too bad that I'm so broke that I'll never be able to avoid an ID75 just to see what it's all about; my wife would kill me if I paid money just to 'see a new toy' and not buy clothes for my daughter who is growing faster than a weed.
Akjetblue From United States of America, joined Dec 2003, 790 posts, RR: 6 Reply 22, posted (9 years 3 months 4 weeks 3 hours ago) and read 2941 times:
I second Yyz717's question, i'm very curious to see if US will restore jet service to some cities that were left with the Dash 8 after the F28s retired... anyone know some routings or plannings?
RiverVisualNYC From United States of America, joined Nov 2003, 930 posts, RR: 3 Reply 23, posted (9 years 3 months 4 weeks 1 hour ago) and read 2811 times:
Cool little jet, Mini-me comes to mind....Seriously, anyone know if/when we will see these at LGA? It's a big station for US Air Express with everything from the ERJs and Dash 8s down to the Beech 1900s of Colgan
Boeing nut From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR: Reply 24, posted (9 years 3 months 4 weeks 1 hour ago) and read 2765 times:
Does the 170 and 190 have any fleet compatibility with the 135 and 145?
I don't believe so. If they did, Embraer would be marketing commonality and I personally haven't heard of it. However, the cockpits do have a similar appearance.
25 Freshlove1: The Dash-8's are on the way out, they will slowly be phased out over time and replaced with the 170 or various CRJ/ERJ models. Right now US Airways Ex
26 RiverVisualNYC: Good info there Fresh, since you seem to know what you're talking about, will the jets even replace the Dash 8s on the really short routes like LGA-MD
27 Freshlove1: I know that the longer DASH routes will get them first, it also depends a lot on the load factor. I believe that the main goal in the future is to eli
28 Embqa: YYZ and River- The first USAirways Express Embraer 170 cities will be PHL-LGA-BNA-CLT-PIT. If you take a look back in 'search' one of our members list
29 Ouboy79: ABE is on that list as well I believe.
30 JBLUA320: I can say with certainty that a route is EWR-PIT-EWR. How do I know? Because I'm booked on it on April 5th. APR05 USAirways Express operated by MidAtl
31 717-200: If the 170 is going "main line" at USAirways why does title on the a/c say "USAirways Express" ?
32 Embqa: Cuz, Mid Atlantic is FULLY owned by Main line USAirways, but will fly under the Express name.
33 ERJ: As long as they are operating out of PHL, I'm happy I'll save my pennies and take a weekend trip somewhere just to get on one of those things. I've be
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