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CO To Resume CLE-JAX  
User currently offlineMAH4546 From Sweden, joined Jan 2001, 33280 posts, RR: 71
Posted (10 years 10 months 2 days 6 hours ago) and read 3645 times:

Effective 6 March 2004:

CO 2798 CLE 0905-1110 JAX
CO 2799 JAX 1400-1602 CLE

Operates Saturday-only with an ERJ through 01May04.


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User currently offlineScottysAir From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 1, posted (10 years 10 months 2 days 6 hours ago) and read 3608 times:

It is very good to hear for CO and is make resume with their flight to JAX again. It is good to come back of business again from CLE-JAX again. Thanks for information, MAH4546!  Smile

User currently offlineTOLtommy From United States of America, joined Dec 2003, 3308 posts, RR: 5
Reply 2, posted (10 years 10 months 2 days 6 hours ago) and read 3593 times:

Shouldn't the title be " COEX to resume CLE-JAX"?

I wonder when the last time was that CO (not express) actually introduced new service in CLE? Those jungle jets are okay for the short hops, but the 2 hour+ flights have gotten so common that I gave up on CO and switched to NW.


User currently offlineLuv2fly From United States of America, joined May 2003, 12150 posts, RR: 49
Reply 3, posted (10 years 10 months 2 days 6 hours ago) and read 3580 times:

Also a reason you are seeing this flight is for the Cruise market, several cruise lines have based a ship out of JAX! So I am sure a block of those seats on each and every flight are already spoken for. And I agree it should be CO-EX announce new service.


You can cut the irony with a knife
User currently offlineArtsyman From United States of America, joined Feb 2001, 4745 posts, RR: 34
Reply 4, posted (10 years 10 months 2 days 5 hours ago) and read 3526 times:

Shouldn't the title be " COEX to resume CLE-JAX"?
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While Expressjet is its own company, every passenger they carry is a Continental Airlines passenger. Continental pays ExpressJet a fixed amount for every flight (whether it is full or empty), and Continental (not Expressjet) decides where and when Expressjet flies. The purpose of Expressjet is to be a regional carrier for Continental Airlines, and to support the hub / spoke system that they have.

Therefore as Expressjet has no means to sell you a ticket, and from a branding perspective Expressjet really do not exist to the general public, the routes are announced via Continental Airlines.


User currently offlineMaiznblu_757 From United States of America, joined Mar 2002, 5112 posts, RR: 50
Reply 5, posted (10 years 10 months 2 days 5 hours ago) and read 3507 times:

Wow, an ERJ flying intercontinental.. Something told me this was right around the corner...



User currently offlineUSAFHummer From United States of America, joined May 2000, 10685 posts, RR: 52
Reply 6, posted (10 years 10 months 2 days 5 hours ago) and read 3495 times:

Uh...how is Cleveland, Ohio to Jacksonville, Florida, intercontinental? Greg


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User currently offlineFavre From United States of America, joined Apr 2000, 595 posts, RR: 9
Reply 7, posted (10 years 10 months 2 days 4 hours ago) and read 3477 times:

Express jet was spun off----no longer wholly owned by CO...


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User currently offlineKlwright69 From Saudi Arabia, joined Jan 2000, 2097 posts, RR: 3
Reply 8, posted (10 years 10 months 2 days 4 hours ago) and read 3454 times:

Right around the corner? Huh???

UA going from SFO to AUS. DL going from DFW to OAK. DEN to Raleigh and Birmingham on UA. All RJ's. This is nothing new or special.Since all these routes are within North America they would all be considered intra-continental. "Intra" that is.

CO is not the only one doing long RJ flights.

I hear people argue on here all the time that Regional jets need separate websites, separate advertising, separate check-in, separate everything cause it is not mainline. What is the point??



User currently offlineArtsyman From United States of America, joined Feb 2001, 4745 posts, RR: 34
Reply 9, posted (10 years 10 months 2 days 3 hours ago) and read 3424 times:

Express jet was spun off----no longer wholly owned by CO...
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I know this, but the situation is exactly as I said it was. The system still works the same way, and you still cannot buy an expressjet ticket

J


User currently offlineTOLtommy From United States of America, joined Dec 2003, 3308 posts, RR: 5
Reply 10, posted (10 years 10 months 2 days 3 hours ago) and read 3395 times:

Okay, I'll meet you halfway. How about this?

CO confirms CLE-JAX service, to be operated by COEX.

I think it's important to point out to those not as knowledgable as A.net members that you won't be getting a 737 on a 2 hour+ flight. If I needed to fly CLE-JAX, I'd look for another option. I don't like riding in the upper deck of a 747 on a transpacific crossing, and I don't like an RJ beyond 75 mins or so. But that's just me....


User currently offlineCLEfan From United States of America, joined Nov 2001, 299 posts, RR: 1
Reply 11, posted (10 years 10 months 2 days 2 hours ago) and read 3360 times:

Also of note, the seasonal CLE-SAN was dropped at the last schedule change. Any idea why?

User currently offlineTOLtommy From United States of America, joined Dec 2003, 3308 posts, RR: 5
Reply 12, posted (10 years 10 months 2 days 2 hours ago) and read 3345 times:

End of the season that they planned it for? CO would probably have COEX serve it year round if they could just figure out how to put drop tanks on the Jungle Jets...  Big grin

User currently offlineCLEfan From United States of America, joined Nov 2001, 299 posts, RR: 1
Reply 13, posted (10 years 10 months 2 days 2 hours ago) and read 3327 times:

TOLtommy,

CLE-SAN only operated in the summer, usually starting in May or June, and operating until just after Labor Day. It was in the schedule to fly this year but now its gone.


User currently offlineLambertMan From United States of America, joined Aug 2003, 2081 posts, RR: 36
Reply 14, posted (10 years 10 months 2 days 2 hours ago) and read 3324 times:

CLE's lack of ability to support flights to the West Coast amazes me.....2x to LAX, 1x SFO, no SNA, no SAN, no PDX, and a 1x daily seasonal 73G to SEA. In a word, yikes. In my opinion that is sad for a market the size of CLE (2.9m)they should be able to support something a little more.

Moving on......CLE-JAX on an RJ is long but not that terrible. You guys should be used to it in CLE Big grin. Come to think of it, I'll be flying STL-JAX soon on a RJ to look at DCA.


User currently offlineCALMSP From United States of America, joined Aug 2003, 4048 posts, RR: 8
Reply 15, posted (10 years 10 months 2 days 2 hours ago) and read 3298 times:
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actually our SEA flight is now year round. And they are going to be having two flights a day I believe this summer, including a red-eye. Summer picks up and so does LAX flights, not to mention additional PHX, & new SLC service.
As for SAN, its to bad, the load factor last year was outstanding, who knowsmaybe they will decide to put it back in.



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User currently offlineMaiznblu_757 From United States of America, joined Mar 2002, 5112 posts, RR: 50
Reply 16, posted (10 years 10 months 2 days 1 hour ago) and read 3267 times:

DAMN... Didnt the original message say CLE-LAX with ERJ service? If not, these drugs I am taking for my Pneumonia are really messing with my mind!

[Edited 2004-02-23 23:54:29]

User currently offlineUSAFHummer From United States of America, joined May 2000, 10685 posts, RR: 52
Reply 17, posted (10 years 10 months 2 days 1 hour ago) and read 3246 times:

Even CLE-LAX wouldnt be intercontinental...sorry...try again!

Greg



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User currently offlineJderden777 From United States of America, joined Jan 2000, 1757 posts, RR: 28
Reply 18, posted (10 years 10 months 2 days 1 hour ago) and read 3243 times:

LambertMan:
When are you coming to JAX to look at DCA? I'd guess that you'd be looking at JU too, no? I think we used to get MD80s on the STL route, but of course now its an RJ...

At any rate, it's good that JAX is picking up another flight. I honestly think that the area is underserved in terms of flying. Delta's cut back quite a bit here, and to be honest I think the area could support more...from what I hear JAX was trying to woo Frontier and JetBlue - both of which would make nice additions here. I guess we'll only see JAX be a busy airport when the super bowl is held in Jacksonville next year...



"my soul is in the sky" - shakespeare
User currently offlineLambertMan From United States of America, joined Aug 2003, 2081 posts, RR: 36
Reply 19, posted (10 years 10 months 2 days ago) and read 3211 times:

Probably in a month of so, I am also going to look at Embry-Riddle. I've heard bad things about Embry Riddle from a non-academic stanpoint, social life is what I'm getting at. I'll let you know when I come so maybe we can meet up somewhere on the campus.

CALMSP, the CLE-SEA flight isn't currently running...


User currently offlineMAH4546 From Sweden, joined Jan 2001, 33280 posts, RR: 71
Reply 20, posted (10 years 10 months 1 day 23 hours ago) and read 3194 times:

CALMSP, the CLE-SEA flight isn't currently running...

Yeah it is:

CO 1457 CLE 0900-1110 SEA 738 Su
CO 1457 CLE 0920-1130 SEA 73G xSu

CO 508 SEA 0710-1435 CLE 73G xSa
CO 508 SEA 0925-1650 CLE 738 Sa

However, there is no second daily in the schedule for this summer. As well, the flight will be suspended on 07Sep04. Will most likely resume later.



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User currently offlineYxskip From United States of America, joined Feb 2004, 18 posts, RR: 0
Reply 21, posted (10 years 10 months 1 day 23 hours ago) and read 3178 times:

Will CO ever use the Cleveland hub to its potential?


User currently offlineArtsyman From United States of America, joined Feb 2001, 4745 posts, RR: 34
Reply 22, posted (10 years 10 months 1 day 23 hours ago) and read 3171 times:

Will CO ever use the Cleveland hub to its potential?
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Not until the city actually makes an effort to help the airline instead of cripling it with some of the nations highest landing fees, and taking forever to build a new runway.


User currently offlineRedngold From United States of America, joined Mar 2000, 6907 posts, RR: 44
Reply 23, posted (10 years 10 months 1 day 23 hours ago) and read 3168 times:

Didn't CO announce CLE-SLC not long ago? That's mainline service.


Up, up and away!
User currently offlineTriJetFan1 From United States of America, joined Jan 2004, 1128 posts, RR: 7
Reply 24, posted (10 years 10 months 1 day 23 hours ago) and read 3149 times:
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"Will CO ever use the Cleveland hub to its potential?"
They need more international service out of there to reach its full potential.



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25 LambertMan : Odd, when I would do a search on Continental.com it would turn up only connections through IAH. Oh well, thx for the correction Mah. Yxskip, that is k
26 RL757PVD : wow whats funny here is that for once....DAB which is underserved had somthing that JAX didnt.... From Dec- through may DAB has daily CLE service for
27 Thrust : If you ask me, I'm not surprised if Continental decides to let go of CLE as a major hub. It doesn't seem to be much use to Continental, according to w
28 Post contains images LambertMan : Thrust, CLE doesn't overlap like STL did at AA(AA only does at STL to a small extent now as I believe it is something like a 75% o/d operation). CO is
29 Luv2fly : IMHO - Now that HP dropped CMH as a hub I think the powers that be, will work harder to keep CO in CLE and to grow and strengthen the market as the ec
30 Ncflyer : OK, a few points. 1) Yeah CLE is a big market population wise, but it's per capita income is quite low. While there is a lot of money in Cleveland for
31 LambertMan : Ncflyer, nicely put. Just one thing, If you are using city only stats like I think you are, look at the MIA market. Their household income for the cit
32 Yxskip : I do agree that CLE does need to upgrade the INSIDE of the terminal. In concourse C, there is not enough seating and the terminal is worn. When CLE/CO
33 Ncflyer : Lambertman, I think all of NE ohio is dreadful. In cleveland city proper, only 20% of the households have incomes over $50,000 (that was in today's pa
34 AmrapCLE : Everyone has been making excellent points. Cleveland itself can't fill the flights BUT, with Continental using their Marketing staff, they can build C
35 Luv2fly : It is true once you get out of Cleveland proper you have some very, very wealthy areas. And considering the decline in PIT that should work to strengt
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