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US Transatlantic Low Cost Start-up  
User currently offlineSabena 690 From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Posted (10 years 1 month 3 weeks 4 days 18 hours ago) and read 3816 times:

Did a check and didn't find anything about this subject posted over here...

A new American transatlantic low-cost start-up is planned!

The name is Rivierajet and will fly to Brussels from (probably) New York and Fort Lauderdale.
Other destinations will be NY Metro (New York JFK), Miami Metro (Fort Lauderdale), London Metro (Stansted), Riviera Metro (Nice), German Metro (Berlijn), Italy Metro (Rome) en Benelux Metro (Brussel). They are also talking with airports in Washington D.C. and Orlando.
For the aircrafts they are negotiating with Boeing (767-300ER) and Airbus (A330-200) but also with lease companies.

Source: http://www.luchtzak.be/postlite3636-.html

They also have a website: http://www.rivierajet.com

Regards
Frederic

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User currently offlineTriStar500 From Germany, joined Nov 1999, 4692 posts, RR: 43
Reply 1, posted (10 years 1 month 3 weeks 4 days 18 hours ago) and read 3701 times:

Hmmm... I would not put my hopes too high. Sounds like a paper airline to me. We have discussed the disadvantages of long-haul low cost operatiosn quite frequently on this board, and I haven't come across a convincing reason why a true LCC will be able to offer fares below the ones of e.g. Britain's and Germany's high-density charter carriers.



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User currently offlineLuv2fly From United States of America, joined May 2003, 12090 posts, RR: 50
Reply 2, posted (10 years 1 month 3 weeks 4 days 18 hours ago) and read 3599 times:

I second what TriStar500 said in his post...


You can cut the irony with a knife
User currently offlineWhyNotTu204 From United States of America, joined Nov 2003, 95 posts, RR: 1
Reply 3, posted (10 years 1 month 3 weeks 4 days 18 hours ago) and read 3555 times:

Is it me or does their site look amazingly like JetBlue's?





Hmmmm....


User currently offlineTZSFO From United States of America, joined Dec 2002, 202 posts, RR: 7
Reply 4, posted (10 years 1 month 3 weeks 4 days 18 hours ago) and read 3494 times:

Air Transport World is reporting on this as well....

http://www.atwonline.com/indexfull.cfm?newsid=3913



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User currently offlineSabena332 From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 5, posted (10 years 1 month 3 weeks 4 days 18 hours ago) and read 3491 times:

Is it me or does their site look amazingly like JetBlue's?

Indeed, that was the first thing I noticed when I clicked the link.

Patrick


User currently offlineScottysAir From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 6, posted (10 years 1 month 3 weeks 4 days 18 hours ago) and read 3437 times:

Are you sure about new airlines will able come to FLL? How? When? or What? Can you please tell us about exactly what is going on for their new flight to FLL? Thanks!  Smile

User currently offlineFlyf15 From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 7, posted (10 years 1 month 3 weeks 4 days 17 hours ago) and read 3430 times:

I dunno guys, it might be a little more serious than you think. Freddie Laker is on their executive staff...

User currently offlinePilottim From United States of America, joined Jan 2004, 32 posts, RR: 0
Reply 8, posted (10 years 1 month 3 weeks 4 days 17 hours ago) and read 3364 times:

From the Financials page: "RivieraJet will cross into profitability in year one."

I don't see this happening. I agree with TriStar500, don't keep your hopes up.

Tim


User currently offlineTrekster From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 9, posted (10 years 1 month 3 weeks 4 days 17 hours ago) and read 3294 times:

If u click TEAM UP, is that not a pic with PAN AM staff. Im sure that was from a film, but cant recall what it was called.

Does sound a good lidea, and they seem to doing everything tog et it started up.

Lets hope they make it.


User currently offlineTomFoolery From Austria, joined Jan 2004, 523 posts, RR: 2
Reply 10, posted (10 years 1 month 3 weeks 4 days 17 hours ago) and read 3288 times:

I was reading further into the site, and I did find that Jet Blue was named on a couple of places in the text. Sir freddie laker is apparently an advisor. Hmmm.

The jury is still out...

Regards,
TF



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User currently offlineVSLover From United Kingdom, joined Feb 2004, 1894 posts, RR: 23
Reply 11, posted (10 years 1 month 3 weeks 4 days 17 hours ago) and read 3261 times:

Trekster:

yes, thats leonardo dicaprio in the pilot uniform, from the movie "catch me if yuo can"


User currently offlineTrekster From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 12, posted (10 years 1 month 3 weeks 4 days 17 hours ago) and read 3167 times:

Thats where i knew that pic from.

Been havin a look at the site, and if it does come into the real life, it looks like it will be a good airline.


User currently offlineMCIrunway From United States of America, joined Jan 2004, 45 posts, RR: 0
Reply 13, posted (10 years 1 month 3 weeks 4 days 16 hours ago) and read 3037 times:

Does anyone currently serve Berlin nonstop from the US?

User currently offlineFly-K From Germany, joined May 2000, 3140 posts, RR: 52
Reply 14, posted (10 years 1 month 3 weeks 4 days 16 hours ago) and read 3034 times:
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With all the frills they plan to offer (and the complexity that comes along with it), it will be interesting to see where low costs come from. The cabin layout looks like not too many seats (BTW, the Business Classic seat they show is the old LH seat, even the same colors).


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User currently offlineTOLtommy From United States of America, joined Dec 2003, 3276 posts, RR: 4
Reply 15, posted (10 years 1 month 3 weeks 4 days 15 hours ago) and read 2984 times:

A website does not an airline make. Even the addition of Sir Freddie doesn't make them stand out anymore than any other potential startup. Looks like they are european based, but I'm not certain. And there's no talk of finanacial backing either. Remember how much talk there was before JetBlue launched? We all heard that Neeleman was going to start a new airline, and how much startup capital he had raised.....

User currently offlineSabena 690 From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 16, posted (10 years 1 month 3 weeks 4 days 15 hours ago) and read 2978 times:

From the Financials page: "RivieraJet will cross into profitability in year one."

I noticed that too... not very realistic at all (just like the whole project actually).

As mentioned above, my first feelings were also that this is an airline on paper...

Frederic


User currently offlineCloudy From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 17, posted (10 years 1 month 3 weeks 4 days 6 hours ago) and read 2774 times:

Rivierajetuses a flash-based webpage.

This is a very bad idea. Such pages....

..... take way too long to load. Most of the world still uses dialup modems, especially in the US. This also gives greater demand for server side bandwidth - when the site gets busy it will be still slower. Most people will not go to a site that takes forever to load unless they know about and are interested in you already. Even then they will be annoyed and will look elsewhere as soon as they can.

...... don't get noticed by search engine robots because they have less plain text. Even someone looking for you won't find you unless you have been linked to by other sites. Even then it will be harder.

.......turn off people who turn off flash. Many people turn off flash because the flash content on most pages is either advertising or irrelevant fluff. These people will not be able to see your page without adjusting their browsers, and why should they take the trouble? Your dependance on flash has already told them that what you are peddling is probably more "flash" than substance.

Successfull business websites tend to use nice, clean, professional-looking HTML. Any other tech they use is quick-loading and supported by nearly all browsers. If Rivierajet plans to use tech wisely, they certainly arn't getting off to a good start with that website.


User currently offlineSpeedbirdheavy From United States of America, joined Jan 2004, 427 posts, RR: 0
Reply 18, posted (10 years 1 month 3 weeks 4 days 6 hours ago) and read 2774 times:

I think ATA was talking about the same city pairs too.


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User currently offlineJetjack74 From United States of America, joined Jul 2003, 7386 posts, RR: 51
Reply 19, posted (10 years 1 month 3 weeks 3 days 20 hours ago) and read 2603 times:
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I think this airline has been done before. Charter Airline names like Transamerica, Global International, Capital Airways and Tower Air. The low cost transatlantic market has fallen by the wayside and it can't compete. PeoplExpress was the proof of that.


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