Aerosvit From Ukraine, joined Feb 2004, 112 posts, RR: 1 Posted (11 years 5 months 1 week 5 days 12 hours ago) and read 3083 times:
Does anyone think that LOT should get new aircrafts. Somewhere along the lines of a 777 *wishful thinking*. I mean...consider the hours on those puppies. They've been almost on every continent. And the fly 10 hours at least 4 times a day. Last time I flew on LOT was this summer and the age of the interior is very well seen. The old seats, tray tables busted, bad video screens and cameras.
Its a great airline...but would love to see a brand spanking new Boeing or Airbus flying to ORD. But I do know tht they spent money on buying the new ERJ's....what are they? The -180's?
SW733 From United States of America, joined Feb 2004, 6452 posts, RR: 8
Reply 1, posted (11 years 5 months 1 week 5 days 12 hours ago) and read 3024 times:
I totally agree. LOT is one of my favorite airlines in Europe. I flew them last year ORD - WAW - BUD. But they definately need some new 767's. Sure, being the national airline of Poland, they don't have a while ton of money, but...I think they can afford something like maybe some new 767's or A310's. But I guess they know best.
Boeing4ever From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 3, posted (11 years 5 months 1 week 5 days 12 hours ago) and read 3006 times:
I've flown LOT myself, and indeed, those 767's don't seem to ever have a break. Of course, considering the horror stories I've heard from people flying other airlines that put lots of mileage on their planes, LOT's 767 fleet seems a lot better off.
Some new aircraft would be nice, but LOT would do better to just show those aircraft a little more TLC.
Access-Air From United States of America, joined Sep 2000, 1941 posts, RR: 12
Reply 5, posted (11 years 5 months 1 week 5 days 11 hours ago) and read 2967 times:
I flew on SP-LOB ORD-WAW and SP-LPA WAW-ORD in March 2003, and altho the planes werent "new" they did the job....Boeing builds planes to last....heck British Airways had flown their 747-100s from the early 1970s until maybe what 1999 or 2000?? So SP-LOA and LOB their two oldest are only about 15 years old.....they have another 15 at least to go!!!!
We have to stop thinking that airplanes are as disposable as plastic cups.
Good maintenence is the key to getting the years out of planes that they are built for. Besides hours on the airframe arent as stressful as pressure cylces from a lot of takeoffs and landings.
Yes, I would love to see a LOT 777 or 744 used from ORD to Warsaw, I am confidennt that they could actually fill it!!! Lets Just keep hoping that their capacity will grow to warrent the larger equipment, but be thankful for what they have to offer.
By the way LOT's service was top notch and all the F/A's were friendly and helpful and I would fly them again in a heartbeat!!!
Horus From Egypt, joined Feb 2004, 5230 posts, RR: 58
Reply 11, posted (11 years 5 months 1 week 5 days ago) and read 2662 times:
Didn't BWIA lease one of LOT's B767-300s, due to aircraft shortage (financing problems delayed second A340 delivery). Anyway the B767 was used on the Caribbean to London and Manchester routes. Apparently the deal was cancelled due to technical problems with the aircraft and passenger complaints about the aircraft's interior.
On the issue of replacement, I think they will go for the 7E7 for two reasons:
1. The B777 and A330 have much larger capacity which the airline may not need.
2. Another post in the forum suggests the new 7E7 will only cost $125 million, so besides the fact it would meet their seat capacity requirement and offer better efficiency, the price is brilliant.
Konrad From United States of America, joined Mar 2002, 552 posts, RR: 0
Reply 13, posted (11 years 5 months 1 week 5 days ago) and read 2587 times:
> LOT problem with the long-haul fleet is that 5 767 that they have is
> not enough in the summer but it's way to much in the winter.
Actually 777s might not be such a bad option. In terms of revenue LOT makes up for the low bookings by hauling a lot of cargo during the off-season winter months. The 777s would give them more cargo capacity. A LOT 777 into O'Hare, preferably with a new livery, would make a great sight.
Lindy From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 16, posted (11 years 5 months 1 week 4 days 21 hours ago) and read 2393 times:
LOT bought ERJ-170 with the main reason to replace ATR72s in some markets, and to reduce capacity in some European destinations. You probably saw the changes from WAW to AMS instead of regular 737 they will send ERJ-170, they did it because they need bigger aircrafts (like 737s) to support charter work to Southwest Europe and Northern Africa. B767 is too big for some charters, some European destinations have 737s with too many empty seats and to make it even they will shift 737s to do most charters, and add additional capaticy replacing ATR-72s with ERJ-170.
Danny From Poland, joined Apr 2002, 3528 posts, RR: 3
Reply 19, posted (11 years 5 months 1 week 4 days 18 hours ago) and read 2260 times:
Lindy - you're right about their original intension. However things changed and 170s will take over 735 routes. Most of the leases for 735 are ending this year and these planes will be phase out. Sad.
I haven;t seen any AT7 route changed to E70. And thats what they should do. Flying to FRA or MUC on old AT7 is a pain.