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First A380 Engine Delivered  
User currently offlineJaspike From United Kingdom, joined Feb 2008, 1 posts, RR: 2
Posted (9 years 3 months 1 day 17 hours ago) and read 5522 times:

http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/sci/tech/3517969.stm



Huge.

Rolls-Royce has delivered the first of its engines designed for Airbus's A380 "super-jumbo", a double-decked aircraft due to enter service in Spring 2006.
The engines have been specially adapted for use on an A340-300 jet in Toulouse in order for them to be flight tested.

The engine will provide 70,000 lbs of thrust at take-off and its makers claim it is the world's cleanest large turbofan engine measured by emissions per pound of thrust.

The manufacturer has also been working to reduce noise emissions from the engine in order to meet regulations for departure at London airports.

The Trent 900 will be used on 48% of Airbus A380s so far ordered. The other planes will use US Pratt & Whitney engines.


Josh

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User currently offlineAirplanepics From United Kingdom, joined Jun 2003, 2725 posts, RR: 45
Reply 1, posted (9 years 3 months 1 day 17 hours ago) and read 5462 times:

Josh, do a search, this has been covererd before  Big grin  Big thumbs up


That engine is huge!

Simon


Simon - London-Aviation.com
User currently offlineJaspike From United Kingdom, joined Feb 2008, 1 posts, RR: 2
Reply 2, posted (9 years 3 months 1 day 17 hours ago) and read 5434 times:

Josh, do a search, this has been covererd before


Ignore him, it hasn't been covered!  Laugh out loud hehe

Josh

User currently offlineTransSwede From United States of America, joined Sep 2001, 993 posts, RR: 0
Reply 3, posted (9 years 3 months 1 day 17 hours ago) and read 5330 times:

Wow, are they going to test it on the A340? That will be quite a contrast with the other 3 engines.  Smile
How will it fit?

User currently offlineThrust From United States of America, joined Sep 2003, 2673 posts, RR: 11
Reply 4, posted (9 years 3 months 1 day 17 hours ago) and read 5239 times:

Is GE offering any engines for the A380? Also, it has seemed to me like PW has not made it onto very many jets. The most recent ones are the 777 and the A330. Is PW begin to decline in its ability to keep up with Rolls Royce and General Electric as an engine-maker for many aircraft. Lately, it seems Rolls Royce and General Electric have been able to produce engines for almost every new type of jetliner lately. Besides the A330, the more recent A340, 773ER, 744ER, and 7E7 and A380 have all had either or both Rolls Royce engines and GE engines. Why can't PW keep up?


Fly one thing; Fly it well
User currently offlineThrust From United States of America, joined Sep 2003, 2673 posts, RR: 11
Reply 5, posted (9 years 3 months 1 day 17 hours ago) and read 5185 times:

Oops...Seems I provided some false information. Just discovered PW and GE have formed an alliance for producing engines on the A380. Guess PW is a lot more on the ball than I thought.


Fly one thing; Fly it well
User currently offlineBA From United States of America, joined May 2000, 11135 posts, RR: 61
Reply 6, posted (9 years 3 months 1 day 17 hours ago) and read 5152 times:

GE and PW formed the Engine Alliance to develop the GP7000 engine for the A380.

More info can be found here:
http://www.gp7000.com

Regards


"Generosity is giving more than you can, and pride is taking less than you need." - Khalil Gibran
User currently offlineSplitzer From United Kingdom, joined Feb 2004, 151 posts, RR: 0
Reply 7, posted (9 years 3 months 1 day 17 hours ago) and read 5151 times:

Anyone notice the mistake - A380-300....sheeesh the BBC Big grin

User currently offlineGigneil From United States of America, joined Nov 2002, 16215 posts, RR: 88
Reply 8, posted (9 years 3 months 1 day 17 hours ago) and read 5144 times:

The A330 has always featured a popular PW engine, more popular than the GE one I believe, the PW4168A.

The PW4062 is offered for sale on the 747-400ER.

Nobody has ANY idea what the 7E7 will have, but PW is developing a brand new engine for it.

PW is offering an engine in conjuction with GE for the A380, called the GP 7200.

N

User currently offline3lions From United States of America, joined Dec 2003, 143 posts, RR: 0
Reply 9, posted (9 years 3 months 1 day 16 hours ago) and read 5113 times:

Thrust.
GE and PW are have joined forces to make an engine to compete with Rolls Royce.
The trent is so good they had to team up.


User currently offlineConcordeBoy From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 10, posted (9 years 3 months 1 day 16 hours ago) and read 5023 times:

The trent is so good they had to team up

...is that why the much heavier GE90 came from behind the pack to slap the Trent800 into second place on the Triple7?  Big grin

User currently offlineNoonerlicious From United States of America, joined Feb 2004, 39 posts, RR: 0
Reply 11, posted (9 years 3 months 1 day 16 hours ago) and read 4878 times:

HELLO!!! This was covered! Listen this is being used on the A340-300 jets...that means that it has been "covered". Although I still think it's amazing because of the size...

So they say it supposed to have 155 "more" seating then our current jumbo. That's pretty good but for the size of the plane you would think it would accommodate more than that...hmm odd.

User currently offlineEI A330-200 From Sweden, joined Apr 2001, 409 posts, RR: 5
Reply 12, posted (9 years 3 months 1 day 16 hours ago) and read 4871 times:

Anyone notice the mistake - A380-300....sheeesh the BBC

Um...If you actually read the article, it says that A340-300 is being used as a testbed for flight testing the engines!!! See:

The engines have been specially adapted for use on an A340-300 jet in Toulouse in order for them to be flight tested.


Long live Aer Lingus, the Flying Shamrock!
User currently offlineN79969 From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 13, posted (9 years 3 months 1 day 16 hours ago) and read 4800 times:

"The trent is so good they had to team up."

No, the market is so small that it made economic sense to team up.

User currently offlineAerosvit From Ukraine, joined Feb 2004, 112 posts, RR: 1
Reply 14, posted (9 years 3 months 1 day 10 hours ago) and read 4574 times:

Holy!! Wow!

A380 is going to be waaaaay bigger than I imagined.


Clava Ykraini
User currently offlineJaspike From United Kingdom, joined Feb 2008, 1 posts, RR: 2
Reply 15, posted (9 years 3 months 23 hours ago) and read 4266 times:

I hope we get some nice photos in the database of the A343 with these engines  Big thumbs up

Anyone know the size difference between this engine and the engine on your average A343?

Josh

User currently offlineRayChuang From United States of America, joined Jun 2000, 7696 posts, RR: 5
Reply 16, posted (9 years 3 months 22 hours ago) and read 4211 times:

The reason why the Trent 970 is such a big engine is the fact with the 116" (294.64 cm) front fan diameter, the front fan can turn at a slower rate for that 70,000 lb. thrust, which reduces the engine noise quite a bit.

User currently offlineSplitzer From United Kingdom, joined Feb 2004, 151 posts, RR: 0
Reply 17, posted (9 years 3 months 20 hours ago) and read 4036 times:

Whoops....My faith in the BBC is restored. I'll blame my mistake on my crappy vision  Yeah sure

Anyhoo at least the usual complaint "isn't the A340-200/300 a slow climber" will be thrown out the window, at least for this special A340-300  Wink/being sarcastic

User currently offlineAndz From South Africa, joined Feb 2004, 8298 posts, RR: 11
Reply 18, posted (9 years 3 months 19 hours ago) and read 3968 times:
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if you saw the pics of GE's 747 that they used for testing the GE90 it might give an idea of what the A340 testbed will look like with one of those huge engines on!




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User currently offlineQ330 From Australia, joined Dec 2003, 1460 posts, RR: 24
Reply 19, posted (9 years 3 months 17 hours ago) and read 3790 times:

Anyone know the size difference between this engine and the engine on your average A343?

I don't know about dimensions, but I can compare the power of each:

As you all know, the Trent 900 produces 70,000lb of thrust.

The normal A343 has CFM56-5C3 turbofans which produce only 32,550lb of thrust each! Tiny!

-Q



Long live the A330!
User currently offlineBoeing767-300 From Australia, joined Sep 2001, 659 posts, RR: 0
Reply 20, posted (9 years 3 months 17 hours ago) and read 3736 times:

All this excitement over the A380 powerplants one can't help thinking about the basic mathematics involved.

A380 4 x 70 000lb engines = 280K for 550ton
744 4 x 60 000lb engines = 240k for 400 ton

Thats 16.6 % more power for a potential 37.5% more weight. You don't have to be a rocket scientist to work out that a FULLY laden A380 might need a LONG RUNWAY and the curvature of the earth. In other words the A380 will share more than just fly by wire and handling characteristics with its smaller brother the A340-300

This is not to inflame Airbus fans but looking at the figures (116 in fan) but the sooner AI fit the superb GE 90-115B (128" 90-94 123"?)larger versions of A380 of current model may fall short of promised performance.

Now an A380 with 4 773ER 115,000lb GEs... now that would look and perform IMPRESSIVELY!!!!

This is just my view on the above spec's and is posted for iminent discussion on this wonderful board!

User currently offlineEddieho From Canada, joined Jan 2004, 228 posts, RR: 2
Reply 21, posted (9 years 3 months 15 hours ago) and read 3575 times:

Look at the size of that thing - a man-eater!
Looks like we are building a Saturn V rocket here to go to the moon, not an airplane for daily flights... lol

User currently offlineGigneil From United States of America, joined Nov 2002, 16215 posts, RR: 88
Reply 22, posted (9 years 3 months 14 hours ago) and read 3497 times:

You have to compare the wing loading of the aircraft as well.

The 388 will have a relatively small wing loading compared to the 744 and a tiny tiny one compared to the MD-11 or A340.

Its expected it will take off like a rocket, but yes, fully laden at a high altitude it will need a ways to get off the ground.

N

User currently offlineAndz From South Africa, joined Feb 2004, 8298 posts, RR: 11
Reply 23, posted (9 years 3 months 10 hours ago) and read 3333 times:
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Should have added these the first time...


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User currently offlineBoeing767-300 From Australia, joined Sep 2001, 659 posts, RR: 0
Reply 24, posted (9 years 3 months 9 hours ago) and read 3256 times:

Gigneil

This has been debated before and wing efficiency helps in giving more lift for a given area but ultimately its THRUST that counts.

The A380 will undoubtedly be much more efficient than 744 although 280k thrust and 550 tons is not going to be spectacular thats for sure


25 Post contains images Jaspike: Andz, thanks for posting those photos! Josh
26 DC-10 Levo: Nice shots, but I'm still not a big fan of the A380. Aicraft due to enter service in Spring 2005? I thought it was later than that. DC-10
27 Startvalve: That is one big leaf blower.
28 Post contains images Bmacleod: Jet engines have definitely entered a new era. Makes the 777 engine look more like the 737-200. AWESOME!!!!!
29 Post contains links Rkmcswain: As a side note to this thread: I wonder how the BBC feels about bandwidth theft. Everytime this thread is viewed, the image http://newsimg.bbc.co.uk/m
30 Gigneil: I'm sure they'll get over it. Its public domain content on a free website. Aicraft due to enter service in Spring 2005? I thought it was later than th
31 Post contains images Jaspike: Aicraft due to enter service in Spring 2005? I thought it was later than that. The BBC actually said 2006 incase you misread : "Rolls-Royce has delive
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