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Ridiculously High Departure Taxes For Non-rev Pax.  
User currently offlineAirmech56 From United States of America, joined Feb 2004, 45 posts, RR: 0
Posted (10 years 5 months 4 weeks 1 day 10 hours ago) and read 6865 times:

Anyone experience any ridiculous International taxes to visit a country as a non-rev? Last month I flew to SDQ and I was charged $10 US dollars upon entering the country for a tourist card and $65 Us dollars for departure tax. Any other countries charge anything close to that? Because thats the highest I've heard so far.

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User currently offlineB747-437B From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 1, posted (10 years 5 months 4 weeks 1 day 10 hours ago) and read 6854 times:

Try Heathrow. GBP 55 (almost USD 100) all told.

User currently offlineArtsyman From United States of America, joined Feb 2001, 4745 posts, RR: 34
Reply 2, posted (10 years 5 months 4 weeks 1 day 9 hours ago) and read 6816 times:

It isnt for Non rev passengers, it is for all passengers, it is just that it is included in your ticket price when you buy a ticket, but as you do not buy a ticket when you non rev, you just pay the tax. The airlines do not see this money at all, it goes straight to the government.

This is why Bethune and others were complaining. They showed that when they charge $200 for a ticket, the government is taking almost half of it right off the top huge amount of the top.


User currently offlineKKMolokai From United States of America, joined Feb 2000, 760 posts, RR: 2
Reply 3, posted (10 years 5 months 4 weeks 1 day 9 hours ago) and read 6792 times:

I would have to agree, LHR is the worst I've experienced so far! The Caribbean, the second worst!



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User currently offlineAirmech56 From United States of America, joined Feb 2004, 45 posts, RR: 0
Reply 4, posted (10 years 5 months 4 weeks 1 day 9 hours ago) and read 6766 times:

Yeah i knew it was included in the price of a full fare ticket but it's funny because the tax that we've been paying SDQ for example has been going up but the prices for full fare tickets have pretty much stayed the same. I dunno call me cheap but I feel cheated.

User currently offlineAirmech56 From United States of America, joined Feb 2004, 45 posts, RR: 0
Reply 5, posted (10 years 5 months 4 weeks 1 day 9 hours ago) and read 6755 times:

So is the 55GPB only from LHR or do they charge the same tariff from all of the U.K.'s airports?

User currently offlineNickofatlanta From Australia, joined May 2000, 1487 posts, RR: 0
Reply 6, posted (10 years 5 months 4 weeks 1 day 9 hours ago) and read 6733 times:

The UK Departure Tax is based on whether your flight is short-haul (within Europe) or long-haul and whether you are travelling in Economy or a Premium Economy. A person travelling in Biz long-haul will pay the most. I believe the tax is consistent across all UK airports.

User currently offlineCO2BGR From United States of America, joined Oct 2003, 558 posts, RR: 4
Reply 7, posted (10 years 5 months 4 weeks 1 day 9 hours ago) and read 6728 times:

I will be going to MXP shortly and the departure tax is around $17 or 15 euro i believe and that is all of the taxes and fees, so for some cases it is not too bad.


There are too many self indulgent weiners in this town with too much bloody money" Randal Raines- Gone in 60 Seconds
User currently offlineThaigold From Australia, joined Sep 2003, 315 posts, RR: 2
Reply 8, posted (10 years 5 months 4 weeks 1 day 9 hours ago) and read 6708 times:

Well if you don't pay for the ticket I'm not really sure you should complain about paying the taxes. The rest of us still have to pay a hell of a lot more - airfare and taxes.....

Why should there be different rules just because you are flying non-rev??? From the treads I read in this forum, you guys always get pi@@ed off when you don't get into the premium cabin. Get a grip and enjoy this privilege instead....



Dunbar Rovers forever
User currently offlineArtsyman From United States of America, joined Feb 2001, 4745 posts, RR: 34
Reply 9, posted (10 years 5 months 4 weeks 1 day 9 hours ago) and read 6691 times:

I believe the tax is consistent across all UK airports.
***

Not even close. GLA is frightengly bad, LGW is bad too, but some of the others are fine.

J


User currently offlineSsides From United States of America, joined Feb 2001, 4059 posts, RR: 21
Reply 10, posted (10 years 5 months 4 weeks 1 day 9 hours ago) and read 6685 times:

I'm with Thaigold. Come on! Give me a break!

Non-revving is a privilege. Everyone else has to pay for (1) the fare price, and (2) the taxes involved.

Great post, Thaigold. Couldn't have said it better myself.



"Lose" is not spelled with two o's!!!!
User currently offlineAirmech56 From United States of America, joined Feb 2004, 45 posts, RR: 0
Reply 11, posted (10 years 5 months 4 weeks 1 day 9 hours ago) and read 6679 times:

Thaigold,

Don't get me wrong i thank my luck stars for not having to pay full fare all of the time. But I just find it strange that the full fare for ewr-sdq is usually around $500.00 and it's been about that price for at least 5 years. So if the full fare hasn't changed why has the tax changed. It just doesn't sound right, I mean they are even charging us if we fly jumpseat. And technically if you fly jumpseat your counted as part of the crew. I don't mean to complain but it just doesn't make sense to me.


User currently offlineLuv2fly From United States of America, joined May 2003, 12090 posts, RR: 49
Reply 12, posted (10 years 5 months 4 weeks 1 day 9 hours ago) and read 6666 times:

Maybe a way to off set the taxes for non revenue tickets is to charge the paying pax an extra dollar or two, which could then go into a dedicated fund just to pay the taxes for non revenue ticket holders. Each airline could have and maintain there own funds. It is the least we can do as paying passengers! Come on it is the least we can do, we already help them out by checking ourselves in via the web, printing our own boarding passes via the web, or using the self serve kiosiks.


You can cut the irony with a knife
User currently offlineThaigold From Australia, joined Sep 2003, 315 posts, RR: 2
Reply 13, posted (10 years 5 months 4 weeks 1 day 9 hours ago) and read 6655 times:

No worries Airmech56. I just get rather annoyed if people don't see the non-rev flights as being a GREAT advantage compared to "the rest of us"...... I'm sure that if I could I would also love to fly for nothing + taxes  Big grin


Dunbar Rovers forever
User currently offlineSsides From United States of America, joined Feb 2001, 4059 posts, RR: 21
Reply 14, posted (10 years 5 months 4 weeks 1 day 9 hours ago) and read 6629 times:

Departure "taxes" are more analogous to "fees." Taxes are commonly based on a percentage of the ticket price, while fees are a fixed amount, designed to cover specific things such as airport security, maintenance, etc. That's why the departure "taxes" change even when fares stay the same.


"Lose" is not spelled with two o's!!!!
User currently offlineEzycrew From Spain, joined Oct 2001, 460 posts, RR: 4
Reply 15, posted (10 years 5 months 4 weeks 1 day 9 hours ago) and read 6611 times:

I'm looking right now at my nonrev ticket to YUL (GVA-X/ZRH-YUL and back) : total taxes : CHF73.-- (roughly USD50.--) the breakdown is :
Swiss tax CHF23
Swiss transit tax CHF12
Canadian tax CHF24
Canadian security CHF14

And when I went to MIA last year, the total taxes where around CHF145.-- (around USD100)....


User currently offlineUshermittwoch From Germany, joined Jan 2004, 2965 posts, RR: 16
Reply 16, posted (10 years 5 months 4 weeks 1 day 9 hours ago) and read 6597 times:

Well for people flying to the US the taxes and fees are also outrageous. I just paid almost 120 Euros just in taxes on a 490 Euro roundtrip. Funnily my US domestic flight cost me 14 Dollars in taxes. And that includes eight flights...


Where have all the tri-jets gone...
User currently offlineAa61hvy From United States of America, joined Nov 1999, 13977 posts, RR: 57
Reply 17, posted (10 years 5 months 4 weeks 1 day 9 hours ago) and read 6584 times:

SJO was 65 USD per person...


Go big or go home
User currently offlineSlider From United States of America, joined Feb 2004, 6793 posts, RR: 34
Reply 18, posted (10 years 5 months 4 weeks 19 hours ago) and read 6422 times:

Leaving Mexico back to the US is $35 USD per head!

For a family of 4, that's $140...nice chunk of change that you have to factor into your vacation costs. Plus, at the tail end of your vacation, when you've spent the money, bought some stuff to take home, and want to hit the duty free before coming home, it can be pretty onerous.

I'm with Thaigold though- on balance, if that's the worst thing I can bitch about as a non-rev, how bad can that be? Big grin


User currently offlineLTBEWR From United States of America, joined Jan 2004, 13073 posts, RR: 12
Reply 19, posted (10 years 5 months 4 weeks 16 hours ago) and read 6341 times:

I hate where you have to pay in CASH or CC a substantual fee not included with your fare as a departure tax and not warned about it by the carrier or the airport when you enter the country. When I left the British Virgin Islands in December, I had to pay a US$20 (yes, US$ are the currency in the BVI, not Pounds) in cash at check-in, and while I had that money, there are no ATM's at the airport which can be a problem with those who forgot to bring the cash with them.
I also hate when the ads for off season sale airfares from NYC area to UK have fares of $99 o/w-$198 r/t then in fine print another $100+ in taxes and fees. Why can't airlines include all expected fees in the big print, i.e "Fares round trip NYC to London on _____Airline from about $329, including most taxes", like done on some websites such as Travelocity. I realize that fees can vary, and in the UK for example, the airports are ran by an independent authority that has to make it's nut, but some of these fees are extortion.

Another extortion racket is for car rentals in many places in the USA. Not only do you pay the local state sales taxes, in some places car rentals and other tourist services (hotels, resturants) may be the only place pay sales taxes, plus 'facility' fees, taxes to subsdise sports stadiums, anti-terror expenses (in NJ, $2.00/day for all car rentals) etc. In some cases, the price for a car rental can double (PHX), or the price for a hotel room be 25% more than the base room rate.


User currently offlineSabena332 From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 20, posted (10 years 5 months 4 weeks 16 hours ago) and read 6320 times:

Most airports in Scandinavia have very high taxes, but is there anything in Scandinavia without high taxes?  Big grin

Patrick


User currently offlineN276AASTT From US Virgin Islands, joined Jan 2004, 620 posts, RR: 0
Reply 21, posted (10 years 5 months 4 weeks 16 hours ago) and read 6274 times:

Airmech56:

I know exactly how you feel. I travel to SDQ a lot and I know that they have some of the highest departure taxes around. Up until recently it was just $20, then $34. Last time I was there it was $52. Damn, now it is $65! I'm glad I read this thread. Now I know to make sure I have some extra cash on me. Mexico City taxes are getting up there as well, I believe it's in the $40 range.



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User currently offlineAmwest25 From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 22, posted (10 years 5 months 4 weeks 15 hours ago) and read 6237 times:

"Another extortion racket is for car rentals in many places in the USA. Not only do you pay the local state sales taxes, in some places car rentals and other tourist services (hotels, resturants) may be the only place pay sales taxes, plus 'facility' fees, taxes to subsdise sports stadiums, anti-terror expenses (in NJ, $2.00/day for all car rentals) etc. In some cases, the price for a car rental can double (PHX), or the price for a hotel room be 25% more than the base room rate"


We call the extra hotel tax thats on top of the sales tax a transient tax and I agree with it. I would rather see a tourist taxed for a new sports staduim then the locals. The best and easiest way for the city to raise taxes for something without pissing off the locals is to raise the transient tax. Tourists dont live here and cant vote so its okay to piss them off.


User currently offlinePER744 From Australia, joined Mar 2003, 405 posts, RR: 2
Reply 23, posted (10 years 5 months 4 weeks 6 hours ago) and read 6144 times:

Amwest25:......until the tourists stop coming, and then you're royally screwed.

User currently offlineAmwest25 From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 24, posted (10 years 5 months 4 weeks 4 hours ago) and read 6099 times:

"Amwest25:......until the tourists stop coming, and then you're royally screwed."

They haven't yet, unlike some citys the tourists seem to still flock here. The taxes here are still less then most tourist citys in the US such as Florida and tourists keep on going there, same with New York etc. Taxes are apart of travel and if you want to travel you pay the taxes.



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