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Plane Carrying Macedonian President Crashes  
User currently offlineDamirc From Slovenia, joined Feb 2004, 723 posts, RR: 7
Posted (10 years 5 months 1 day 17 hours ago) and read 3849 times:

According to unconfirmed reports an airplane carrying Macedonian president Boris Trajkovski crashed this morning 50 km outside of Mostar, BiH. The crash site is near Stolac, BiH.

Further information will be posted.

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User currently offlineAirxLiban From Lebanon, joined Oct 2003, 4506 posts, RR: 54
Reply 1, posted (10 years 5 months 1 day 17 hours ago) and read 3791 times:

I hope that there are no fatalities.


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User currently offlineDamirc From Slovenia, joined Feb 2004, 723 posts, RR: 7
Reply 2, posted (10 years 5 months 1 day 17 hours ago) and read 3679 times:

The Macedonian authorities have now confirmed the news. The conference about investment into Bosnia and Hercegovina, to which Mr. Trajkovski was on his way to, has now been cancelled.

The airplane reportedly crashed into or close to the Hrgud hill near Stolac, BiH. Rescue teams have been deployed and are on the way to the site. There is no information yet about the condition of the passengers.


User currently offlineDufo From Slovenia, joined May 1999, 798 posts, RR: 4
Reply 3, posted (10 years 5 months 1 day 17 hours ago) and read 3614 times:

Having personally flown over those mountains two weeks before, I really hope there is a chance to reach them.. those places are like the end of the world, especially in winter conditions.



I seriously think I just creamed my pants without any influence from any outside variables.
User currently offlineMyk From Canada, joined Jul 1999, 455 posts, RR: 0
Reply 4, posted (10 years 5 months 1 day 16 hours ago) and read 3538 times:

Which kind of airlplane was it ?

Is it the first accident involving a head of state ?


User currently offlineDamirc From Slovenia, joined Feb 2004, 723 posts, RR: 7
Reply 5, posted (10 years 5 months 1 day 16 hours ago) and read 3521 times:

It is now supposedly confirmed, that mr. Trajkovski has died in the accident. Unconfirmed reports state, that the aircraft involved was a KingAir (no further details on this). There were 9 passengers aboard, no information about the remaining passengers.

User currently offlineClipperno1 From Germany, joined May 1999, 672 posts, RR: 2
Reply 6, posted (10 years 5 months 1 day 16 hours ago) and read 3457 times:

Regarding if this is the first accident involving a head of state:
In 94 the presidents of Uganda and Rwanda traveled in one airplane, which was downed by a missile, killing both and being the ignition for the biggest genocide in the recent history of mankind. Let us hope the effects of this crash will not be as dramatic.



"I really don't know one plane from the other. To me they are just marginal costs with wings."� Alfred Kahn, 1977
User currently offlineHeyMach From United Kingdom, joined Oct 2003, 118 posts, RR: 0
Reply 7, posted (10 years 5 months 1 day 16 hours ago) and read 3441 times:

Here is what the BBC is reporting about the crash. The story confirms that President Trajkovski was killed in the accident.

http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/world/europe/3488620.stm


User currently offlineMyk From Canada, joined Jul 1999, 455 posts, RR: 0
Reply 8, posted (10 years 5 months 1 day 15 hours ago) and read 3316 times:

Thanks Clipperno.

You are right, I forgot this story. It reminds me of the plane of U Thant but he was the head of the UN.


User currently offlineVHTAE From Australia, joined Jan 2004, 192 posts, RR: 0
Reply 9, posted (10 years 5 months 1 day 15 hours ago) and read 3308 times:

This is very sad news. My condolences to all the families.

User currently offlineMyk From Canada, joined Jul 1999, 455 posts, RR: 0
Reply 10, posted (10 years 5 months 1 day 15 hours ago) and read 3291 times:

Yes, a plane crashing is always terrible for the whole airline community.

Sad news.


User currently offlineAApilot2b From United States of America, joined Nov 2000, 572 posts, RR: 1
Reply 11, posted (10 years 5 months 1 day 15 hours ago) and read 3181 times:

That is terrible! The BBC report said a helicopter had been deployed. I hope for better news.

User currently offlineN949WP From Hong Kong, joined Feb 2000, 1437 posts, RR: 1
Reply 12, posted (10 years 5 months 1 day 15 hours ago) and read 3117 times:

Myk, it was actually U Thant's predecessor Dag Hammarskjold who was killed in a DC-6 crash in Congo in 1961. He was travelling in the region to broker a ceasefire when the crash happened. There were still speculations to this day as to the actual cause of the crash.

User currently offlineAgrodemm From Greece, joined Apr 2000, 401 posts, RR: 0
Reply 13, posted (10 years 5 months 1 day 15 hours ago) and read 3089 times:

I heard the news in local (greek) media.
Really sad news.
Anybody knows whether it was a scheduled flight?


User currently offlineVikkyvik From United States of America, joined Jul 2003, 9772 posts, RR: 27
Reply 14, posted (10 years 5 months 1 day 15 hours ago) and read 3026 times:
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Condolences to those connected in any way to this accident, and to Macedonia in general.
~Vik



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User currently offlineLuzezito From Spain, joined May 2001, 269 posts, RR: 0
Reply 15, posted (10 years 5 months 1 day 15 hours ago) and read 3015 times:

It has now been officially announced that there are no survivors.



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User currently offlineDamirc From Slovenia, joined Feb 2004, 723 posts, RR: 7
Reply 16, posted (10 years 5 months 1 day 15 hours ago) and read 2993 times:

Aircraft involved was a Super KingAir B200. The captain of the flight was Mirko Markovski, the copilot was Branko Ivanovski, who were longtime pilots for the Macedonian government. The flight took off from Skopje at 6.48 and there were 7 passengers on board. Radar contact was lost at 8.01 (all times local), 15 minutes before ETA.

User currently offlineDamirc From Slovenia, joined Feb 2004, 723 posts, RR: 7
Reply 17, posted (10 years 5 months 1 day 15 hours ago) and read 2932 times:

Plane involved was most likely Z3-BAB:


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User currently offlineLa Carlota From United States of America, joined Jun 2001, 358 posts, RR: 0
Reply 18, posted (10 years 5 months 1 day 14 hours ago) and read 2768 times:

I have met Trajkovski personally. He was a great guy and was doing a great job trying to keep all Macedonians together.
I'm deeply sad about this.



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User currently offlineDuke From Canada, joined Sep 1999, 1155 posts, RR: 2
Reply 19, posted (10 years 5 months 1 day 13 hours ago) and read 2674 times:

My condolences to his family and his country. As one born in the former Yugoslavia, I can sympathize with what the country is going through.

User currently offlineRiverVisualNYC From United States of America, joined Nov 2003, 930 posts, RR: 3
Reply 20, posted (10 years 5 months 1 day 13 hours ago) and read 2608 times:

Sad news. Here in the US just less than 2 years ago, Senator Paul Wellstone of Minnesota was also killed in the crash of a King Air.

User currently offlineSushka From United States of America, joined Nov 1999, 4784 posts, RR: 14
Reply 21, posted (10 years 5 months 1 day 11 hours ago) and read 2415 times:

Yes indeed, very sad news today for Macedonia.  Sad  Sad


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User currently offlinePHX-LJU From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 22, posted (10 years 5 months 1 day 10 hours ago) and read 2259 times:

My condolances to the people of Macedonia.


Photo: CNN, AFP

As you can see below, the dry, rocky terrain in Bosnia is fairly similar to the area when Secretary Ron Brown's plane crashed in 1996. That accident happened near Dubrovnik, Croatia, which actually isn't that far from Mostar.

Photo: rtvslo.si


User currently offlineJU101 From Canada, joined Mar 2001, 832 posts, RR: 4
Reply 23, posted (10 years 5 months 1 day 10 hours ago) and read 2260 times:

This is really sad news for the state of Macedonia. President Trajkovski was a well respected leader in the region, and was on his way to attend a conference in Mostar. Delegations from Ljubljana, Zagreb, and Belgrade were unable to land at Mostar, because of the severe weather conditions.

The plane crashed in the Stolac municipality, a mountainous region of Hercegovina. It is said that the plane lost contact with air traffic controllers shortly after it exited Serbia & Montenegro airspace.

My condolences to the Macedonian people.


User currently offlineAirbazar From United States of America, joined Sep 2003, 8202 posts, RR: 10
Reply 24, posted (10 years 5 months 1 day 8 hours ago) and read 2121 times:

Again, regarding if this is the first accident involving a head of state.
Back in the mid 80's the president of Mozambique was also killed when the plane he was travelling in, crashed.


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