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CSA To Buy 15 New Jets  
User currently offlineAndrej From United Kingdom, joined Jun 2001, 810 posts, RR: 0
Posted (9 years 2 months 3 weeks 5 days 7 hours ago) and read 2999 times:

Hello all,

I was listening to Czech Radio, and they have mentioned that CSA will approach Airbus and Boeing to buy new 15 jets.

If I will know anything new I will post it here.

EDIT: The news also mentioed that it will increase capacity by 40%.

Cheers,
Andrej

Source: www.cro.cz -> live radio

[Edited 2004-02-26 18:08:49]

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User currently offlineRockyRacoon From United States of America, joined Oct 2003, 938 posts, RR: 0
Reply 1, posted (9 years 2 months 3 weeks 5 days 7 hours ago) and read 2847 times:

For more trans atlantic flights?

User currently offlineRj777 From United States of America, joined Dec 2000, 1471 posts, RR: 2
Reply 2, posted (9 years 2 months 3 weeks 5 days 7 hours ago) and read 2820 times:
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I see the following in the running then:
777
A330
A340
7E7
A380
767

User currently offlineDanny From Poland, joined Apr 2002, 3482 posts, RR: 2
Reply 3, posted (9 years 2 months 3 weeks 5 days 7 hours ago) and read 2754 times:

Come on guys 15 short-haul jets. Therefore fight between 73NG and A320 family.

[Edited 2004-02-26 18:18:03]

User currently offlineAndrej From United Kingdom, joined Jun 2001, 810 posts, RR: 0
Reply 4, posted (9 years 2 months 3 weeks 5 days 7 hours ago) and read 2741 times:

Hello all,

I can not remember now, but either the talks will start or will finish by April 04.

However, I DO NOT believe that this is for long haul fleet. Think about it, CSA does not have that many routes to support 15 long haul planes.

It might be expantion of medium haul fleet. And maybe start of replacement of this fleet. Some jets are 10 years old, however some are quite young.

Cheers,
Andrej

It seems that decission will create new A32X or B737NG operator.

User currently offlineJaws707 From United States of America, joined Aug 2001, 708 posts, RR: 1
Reply 5, posted (9 years 2 months 3 weeks 5 days 6 hours ago) and read 2615 times:

Rj777, If you do not mind me asking, what routes could CSA possibly use an A380 on? I would imagine the 15 plane order will go to some short range planes.

User currently offlineElwood64151 From United States of America, joined Feb 2002, 2477 posts, RR: 7
Reply 6, posted (9 years 2 months 3 weeks 5 days 6 hours ago) and read 2588 times:

If CSA is looking for short-haul routes, don't count out the 717. It's unlikely, but possible.

However, I think it's far more likely that the 737 and A320 are in the running. As has been stated before, CSA simply doesn't have the network to support 15 long haul aircraft.


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User currently offlineBicoastal From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 7, posted (9 years 2 months 3 weeks 5 days 6 hours ago) and read 2539 times:

Yes, that 380 listing was pretty funny.

How old are CSA's A310s (or are they 300s?)? I can see CSA picking up a couple of more widebodies to fly to Delta/Skyteam hubs in Atlanta and maybe Cincinnati. CSA already flies to Toronto and New York (JFK). Prague is a good hub location for growing markets in central and east Europe as well as many of the Commonwealth of Independent States (former soviet republics). Growing the CSA shorthaul fleet will help it accomplish this. I'm sure the company bean counters are looking at all of this. CSA is going to be privatized soon.

User currently offlineSuperdawg From Canada, joined Jan 2000, 347 posts, RR: 1
Reply 8, posted (9 years 2 months 3 weeks 5 days 6 hours ago) and read 2475 times:

Perhaps it will be a mixture of short (10) and long haul (5). It would be nice to see CSA return to some of the Asian destinations it used to serve like BKK as well increasing capacity on some routes by replacing the A310's with A330's or 767/777's.

User currently offlineAeroAussie From United States of America, joined Dec 1999, 264 posts, RR: 0
Reply 9, posted (9 years 2 months 3 weeks 5 days 6 hours ago) and read 2407 times:

I have to echo the sentiments echoed here that we are proibably going to see a battle between the 737 family and the A320 family, with perhaps a few A330's or maybe 767's to replace the A310s.
-Nick


Rj777-
Did you leave any longhaul aircraft out there? If they are getting 15 jets, the majority will probably be short/medium haul aircraft. They might pick up a few A330's to replace the A310's, but to think that they would honestly be considering the A380/A340 or even 777 is a bit much. There's no way they can support such large aircraft given their current route structure and passenger demand.

User currently offlineRj777 From United States of America, joined Dec 2000, 1471 posts, RR: 2
Reply 10, posted (9 years 2 months 3 weeks 5 days 5 hours ago) and read 2332 times:
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Whoops! Sorry guys. I guess I took that increased capacity thing to the extreme. I do that sometimes. In regards to the A380, I don't know what I was thinking.

Now that brings us to:
A318/9/20/21
717-2/3
757 (don't kill me on that)
73-7/-8/-9

I just want to put forth all the candidates out front and see who has the strongest possibilty. (Like a pres. primary)

(Don't get me wrong, two of my best friends are Czech)

User currently offlineKl911 From Ireland, joined Jul 2003, 4977 posts, RR: 14
Reply 11, posted (9 years 2 months 3 weeks 5 days 5 hours ago) and read 2254 times:

Since the Czech republic will be joining the EU this year, my two cents are on the 319/320/321 family. Somehow I think there are deals involved in this joining the EU proces.


" The European consumer would crawl naked over broken glass to get low fares." Michael O'Leary
User currently offlineKaitak From Ireland, joined Aug 1999, 11951 posts, RR: 37
Reply 12, posted (9 years 2 months 3 weeks 5 days 5 hours ago) and read 2225 times:

OK, where to start (!)

I agree that there won't be more than 3-4 widebodies and given that it's seeking to replace A310s, the 7E7 might be in with a good chance here, although if OK goes for the 319/320/321, that would certainly weigh in favour of the A330-200.

Surprised that Embraer wasn't approached. I thought it might have been in a position to provide EMB 170s or 190s.



User currently offlineAndrej From United Kingdom, joined Jun 2001, 810 posts, RR: 0
Reply 13, posted (9 years 2 months 3 weeks 5 days 5 hours ago) and read 2198 times:

Hello guys,

CSA just got "new" A310. Do you think it was a wise investemnt if they wanted to buy new long haul? Maybe, but still I believe that A310 are here to stay for longer.

CSA is using B734/5 and they seem to be very happy with them, so I believe they will look for B737NG. 717 might be possible, but I do not think so. But there might be problems. Boeing just left AeroVodochody (famous factory on producing L29, L39, L59, L159 Alca) so Czech's might not order new Boeings.

A32X-> they might order this family of plane. Czech Rep. is joining EU in May 04 and God knows what kind of pressure they might receive from EU. Maybe they want to "please" EU and thus they will order A32X. Maybe A32X is what they need for thier future and mix of A318-321 will help them to become better (economically wise) airline.

You can see, how things get twisted when new planes are ordered and how many factors are implemented. We do not even know about these factors and probably we will never know.

CSA is member of SkyTeam, and I just do not see that they will order to fly to Asian or other destinations. If 10 or 15 business men needs to go to BKK, they might fly AF, Korean Air.

All in all, I hope that CSA will choose best plane that fits thier future development programs, that will work and earn money.

Cheers,
Andrej

User currently offlineJano From Slovakia, joined Jan 2004, 814 posts, RR: 4
Reply 14, posted (9 years 2 months 3 weeks 5 days 4 hours ago) and read 2104 times:

I think they are expanding their EU routes. At least this news
http://news.airwise.com/stories/2004/02/1077736454.html
suggest it.

Plus, they would be smart to start operating some routes from BTS before OS grabs the market there:D


flying the Red Tails!
User currently offlineJAT From Canada, joined Feb 2000, 1095 posts, RR: 10
Reply 15, posted (9 years 2 months 3 weeks 5 days 2 hours ago) and read 1967 times:

Any chance of an updated or new livery to go along with the new planes?

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