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DL To SDQ?  
User currently offlineB752fanatic From United States of America, joined Jul 2003, 918 posts, RR: 8
Posted (10 years 6 months 3 weeks 5 days 10 hours ago) and read 2437 times:

I heard yesterday that DL is thinking seriously to fly to SDQ on the JFK-SDQ-JFK run.

Anyone can confirm this?

It will be the first time for DL to fly to SDQ.


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User currently onlineSTT757 From United States of America, joined Mar 2000, 16866 posts, RR: 51
Reply 1, posted (10 years 6 months 3 weeks 5 days 10 hours ago) and read 2408 times:

They announced JFK-SDQ twice daily about 2-3 weeks ago.


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User currently offlineB752fanatic From United States of America, joined Jul 2003, 918 posts, RR: 8
Reply 2, posted (10 years 6 months 3 weeks 5 days 10 hours ago) and read 2401 times:

Could you give me a link?


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User currently onlineSTT757 From United States of America, joined Mar 2000, 16866 posts, RR: 51
Reply 3, posted (10 years 6 months 3 weeks 5 days 10 hours ago) and read 2365 times:

http://biz.yahoo.com/rc/040128/airlines_delta_2.html


Eastern Air lines flt # 701, EWR-MCO Boeing 757
User currently offlineB752fanatic From United States of America, joined Jul 2003, 918 posts, RR: 8
Reply 4, posted (10 years 6 months 3 weeks 5 days 10 hours ago) and read 2353 times:

Thanks,

What a/c are they going to use on that route?



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User currently offlineFlyguy1 From United States of America, joined Jun 1999, 1738 posts, RR: 4
Reply 5, posted (10 years 6 months 3 weeks 5 days 8 hours ago) and read 2294 times:

757's will be used on JFK-SDQ.


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User currently offlineScottysAir From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 6, posted (10 years 6 months 3 weeks 5 days 8 hours ago) and read 2273 times:

It is already there with announcement of their new route from JFK to SDQ flight on twice daily roundtrip.

User currently offlineCOEWRNJ From United States of America, joined Oct 2003, 1064 posts, RR: 19
Reply 7, posted (10 years 6 months 3 weeks 5 days 8 hours ago) and read 2251 times:

Is JFK-SDQ the only route DL has to the Dominican Republic? I'm going to POP this summer and I was looking to see what DL had down there and they had nothing into either SDQ, PUJ, or POP. I'm sort of surprised that DL hasn't at least had service to SDQ before. Is there a reason they haven't started service to SDQ earlier? Also how do you feel the JFK-SDQ route will do? I mean AA has three A300 flights a day and CO is operating a 777 out of EWR and both routes are pretty well established. I would think that it would make it hard to compete against when you have no other recognition in the country, not even from your largest hub. Any thoughts??

User currently offlineFlyPNS1 From United States of America, joined Nov 1999, 6608 posts, RR: 24
Reply 8, posted (10 years 6 months 3 weeks 5 days 8 hours ago) and read 2219 times:

It will be difficult for DL to compete in SDQ and I wouldn't be surprised to see this route fail for DL. They've had a hard time getting anything to stick at JFK with the exception of a small number of European niche routes (SVO,ATH,IST,NCE,VCE).



User currently offlineSpirit Md-80 From Puerto Rico, joined May 1999, 87 posts, RR: 0
Reply 9, posted (10 years 6 months 3 weeks 5 days 8 hours ago) and read 2207 times:

Also Air Santo Domingo is doing very well on the JFK-SDQ and a full meal not that cheap tray set-up that AA has.

User currently offlinePrinair From United States of America, joined Dec 1999, 744 posts, RR: 2
Reply 10, posted (10 years 6 months 3 weeks 5 days 7 hours ago) and read 2182 times:

The demand for "VFR" passengers on this market is huge. DL will probably be successful regardless of market recognition. Just the fact that it is an "American carrier" will help it fill seats.


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User currently offlinePanamair From United States of America, joined Oct 2001, 4910 posts, RR: 25
Reply 11, posted (10 years 6 months 3 weeks 5 days 7 hours ago) and read 2144 times:
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There can never be enough seats to SDQ from the NYC area especially during the holiday periods. DL is starting the service on Jul 1 just in time for the summer holiday season; they should do fine in this market - the flights for July 1 - 5 are already decently booked in the Y cabin (especially the morning departure) and even some December dates around the holidays already have limited availability

User currently offlineConcordeBoy From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 12, posted (10 years 6 months 3 weeks 5 days 6 hours ago) and read 2130 times:

Is JFK-SDQ the only route DL has to the Dominican Republic?

yup


User currently offlineB752fanatic From United States of America, joined Jul 2003, 918 posts, RR: 8
Reply 13, posted (10 years 6 months 3 weeks 5 days 3 hours ago) and read 2030 times:

I think that DL will decide for the 767-300, and then maybe the 767-400 for this route, I mean, the demand during the holiday season is really good.


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User currently offlineScottysAir From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 14, posted (10 years 6 months 3 weeks 5 days 3 hours ago) and read 2007 times:

Yeah, you're right!! It is doing very well on their route from JFK-SDQ flight and would able get upgrade from B757 to B763 aircraft anytime soon into the future and we shall look see about that.

User currently offlineChepos From Puerto Rico, joined Dec 2000, 6220 posts, RR: 11
Reply 15, posted (10 years 6 months 3 weeks 5 days 3 hours ago) and read 2007 times:

SDQ is a huge market from New York , they will definitely do well. No matter the season there is a demand for flights to the DR, from JFK you have AA, Air Santo Domingo and North American believe me there is space for a 4th carrier. I wouldn't be surprised to see a ATL-SDQ flight in a couple of months.
Chepos



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User currently offlineScottysAir From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 16, posted (10 years 6 months 3 weeks 5 days 3 hours ago) and read 1999 times:

Yeah, I am pretty sure about DL wouldn't able to fly from ATL-SDQ flight in the couple of the months and will let you know see if I can get with their press releases on the Yahoo News. Thanks, Chepos!  Smile

User currently offlineLGA777 From United States of America, joined Jul 2003, 1149 posts, RR: 19
Reply 17, posted (10 years 6 months 3 weeks 4 days 13 hours ago) and read 1898 times:

I agree with Chepos, the demand for NYC-SDQ is huge, especially in Summer, Christmas and Easter. In addition to the huge Dominican population in the NYC area (its several million) more and more Americans are buying property in the Dominican Republic. AA just announced a 4th JFK-SDQ r/t starting July 1st and that won't hurt DL at all. Next summer the DL flight will probably be a domestic configured 763, at least seasonally,watch and see.

LGA777


User currently offlineMAH4546 From Sweden, joined Jan 2001, 32782 posts, RR: 72
Reply 18, posted (10 years 6 months 3 weeks 4 days 10 hours ago) and read 1849 times:

NYC area (its several million)

It is a huge, but it is not "several million".

AA just announced a 4th JFK-SDQ r/t starting July 1st and that won't hurt DL at all.

Fourth daily JFK-SDQ (and 4th daily MIA-SDQ) runs seasonal only for the peak summer travel period between July and August.

As much traffic as there is between New York City and the Dominican Republic, it is a very difficult market to remain competitive in due to American Airlines' strength. Don't underestimate it. I have a feeling Delta is not going to do as well as people think, but I hope I am wrong. AA will be lowering fares to stay competitive, and Dominicans, like most Latin Americans, value brand loyalty in ways Americans never would.



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User currently offlineChepos From Puerto Rico, joined Dec 2000, 6220 posts, RR: 11
Reply 19, posted (10 years 6 months 3 weeks 4 days 8 hours ago) and read 1798 times:

Yes AA has brand loyalty with the Dominincan population ,but if Delta offers competitive fares year round and they establish themselves in the Dominincan market they could make it work. Lets take a similar exapmle- JetBlue in San Juan, they were very well known in New York when they entered the JFK-SJU market but they were hardly known in Puerto Rico, AA has a huge following in Puerto rico, travel agents back them up, it;s one of their most importnat routes out of San Juan - but B6 still pulled made it work, and I believe they are doing very weil on the routel. Im prety sure DL will make it in the route ,(JFK-SDQ) needs some real competition-Air Santo Domingo and North American provides an alternative but it's very small compared to AA's huge presence on the market. Lets not forget Dominincans love bargains, and considering the plane will have an American tail on it should help Delta out.
Chepos



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User currently offlineLGA777 From United States of America, joined Jul 2003, 1149 posts, RR: 19
Reply 20, posted (10 years 6 months 3 weeks 4 days 7 hours ago) and read 1780 times:

Actually not to disagree but even though AA does have a lot of brand loyalty in D.R. and Puerto Rico they also have many dissastified customers there who are looking for an alternitve to AA, DL will do fine. Also with all the bad press with so many Dominicans loosing their money when Aeromar shut down that should help the established US based carriers. Speaking of Aeromar former Metrojet 737-201 HI-777 was still in SDQ last week, the engines were covered but otherwise looked good, anybody know if it ever operated any revenue flights for Aeromar ? I think it was supposed to be used for AUA/CCS/PTY/HAV type routes from SDQ ? Thanks LGA777

User currently offlineDeltaMIA From United States of America, joined Feb 2004, 1672 posts, RR: 17
Reply 21, posted (10 years 6 months 3 weeks 4 days 3 hours ago) and read 1688 times:

"I wouldn't be surprised to see a ATL-SDQ flight in a couple of months"

Initially the SDQ market was supposed to be opened with 3 flights a day. 2 Song operated flights to JFK and 1 738 (initially) to ATL. I am pretty certain the ATL flight will still happen, but I haven't heard anything about it since beginning of January. Of course since then the route has changed to 2 mainline 757's. Pending the outcome of the review due in June, these two flights in all likely will increase capacity to the 199 seat Song flights.



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User currently offlineB752fanatic From United States of America, joined Jul 2003, 918 posts, RR: 8
Reply 22, posted (10 years 6 months 3 weeks 4 days 2 hours ago) and read 1672 times:

"Speaking of Aeromar former Metrojet 737-201 HI-777 was still in SDQ last week, the engines were covered but otherwise looked good, anybody know if it ever operated any revenue flights for Aeromar ?"

That a/c has been grounded and seized by the Dominican Civil Aviation Organization and the association of Airports of the Dominican Republic, due to debts.

Aeromar has left a big debt in D.R.

About that plane, yes did various flights, and they told me that the loads were good.

I was kind of proud since that is the only Boeing Airliner with a Dominican Registration, but now you see it has months there. Too bad for metrojet, they have that aircraft there without the chance of getting it back soon.



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User currently offlineEddieDude From Mexico, joined Nov 2003, 7582 posts, RR: 42
Reply 23, posted (10 years 6 months 3 weeks 4 days 2 hours ago) and read 1667 times:

FlyPNS1, don't forget DL's flight to MEX from JFK (I don't know if JFK-MTY is on AM's aircraft).


Next flights: MEX-GRU (AM 77E), GRU-GIG (JJ A320), SDU-CGH (G3 73H), GRU-MEX (JJ A332).
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