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User currently offlinen4khgirl From United States of America, joined May 1999, 297 posts, RR: 3
Posted (15 years 6 months 1 week 6 days 21 hours ago) and read 1017 times:

Hi all,

Is it true that that the 732 has a rudder problem causing it to roll without any warning?

I was just thinking about this, because a few years back there was a USAir 732 flying from somewhere to pittsburgh, to roanoke, and it crashed on the way to pittsburgh.

See yah later,
Camille

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User currently offlineL1011 From United States of America, joined May 1999, 1674 posts, RR: 9
Reply 1, posted (15 years 6 months 1 week 6 days 20 hours ago) and read 1017 times:
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Hi Camille. That was a 737-300 that crashed near Pittsburgh. The 737-200 crashed at Colorado Springs and one did an uncommanded roll at Richmond.

Bob Bradley
Richmond, VA



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User currently offlinefly777ual From United States of America, joined May 1999, 4512 posts, RR: 3
Reply 2, posted (15 years 6 months 1 week 6 days 19 hours ago) and read 1017 times:

I thought it was US Air 737-400 at PIT. The 737-200 was UA's, and an Eastwind had an uncomm. roll at Richmond. The Metrojet -200 had an uncomm. roll, but the pilots corrected it. Later on that day (or week) a UA 737(300?) had stiff rudder pedals at SEA>

User currently offlineL1011 From United States of America, joined May 1999, 1674 posts, RR: 9
Reply 3, posted (15 years 6 months 1 week 6 days 19 hours ago) and read 1016 times:
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According to ACAR International #9, October 1994, the USAir plane that crashed at Pittsburgh was N513AU, msn 23699, a 737-3B7.

Bob Bradley
Richmond, VA



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User currently offlineMD-11 From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 4, posted (15 years 6 months 1 week 6 days 18 hours ago) and read 1016 times:

It's not just the 737-200, there have been such cases with almost all models, up to the -300/400/500.

User currently offlineLindy From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 5, posted (15 years 6 months 1 week 6 days 17 hours ago) and read 1018 times:

Now I'm confused!
One is saying it was -200, other -300, and another -400. Also I dont know any crash that had place at PIT on October. Maybe you guys talking about September 8, 1994, USAir Flight 427???? If so, it was 737-300

Rafal


User currently offlineSatchmo From Germany, joined Sep 2005, 1 posts, RR: 0
Reply 6, posted (15 years 6 months 1 week 6 days 13 hours ago) and read 1017 times:

Hello everybody,

There are two losses of aircraft(United 585 near Colorado Springs (737-200) and USAir 427 near Pittsburgh (737-300)) which have not been fully explained. However most experts believe that both
crashes, which claimed the life of 157 people, as well as the Eastwind and MetroJet incidents were caused by uncommanded rudder troubles due to failures in the PCU and/or yaw dumper system. Apart from that there have been hundreds of incidents where pilots reported uncommanded swings of the rudder in the 737's long carrer. All the early models had no system to limit a possible uncommanded rudder movement. Unfortunately Boeing and the FAA have been very slow and reluctant to act. This is understandable, but not acceptable and could lead to more incidents. Just imagine the millions of pounds it would cost Boeing to acknowledge that the rudder is defective and the associated changes to almost 3000 in-service aircraft. However, Boeing at least introduced some changes to new-build versions of the 737,which of course do not affect all the previous models. Don't get me wrong: I don't think the 737 is an unsafe aircraft (I just flew on one three weeks ago), but in the interest of flight safety it would be better to fully investigate the causes of this rudder phenomenon.
Satchmo


User currently offlinepb737 From United States of America, joined Aug 1999, 21 posts, RR: 0
Reply 7, posted (15 years 6 months 1 week 6 days 9 hours ago) and read 1016 times:

They are doing a special on this problem tonight on "Dateline" on NBC. It is
on at 7:00 Central Standard time. Should be interesting.


User currently offlineL1011 From United States of America, joined May 1999, 1674 posts, RR: 9
Reply 8, posted (15 years 6 months 1 week 6 days 4 hours ago) and read 1016 times:
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The Pittsburgh accident did not happen in October. That was the issue of ACAR International where it was detailed.

Bob Bradley
Richmond, VA



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User currently offlineReadthereport From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 9, posted (15 years 6 months 1 week 5 days 22 hours ago) and read 1016 times:

Camille,

For a complete and detailed explanation of the USair 737 incident at Pittsburgh, read the Airline Pilot's Association report to the FAA on the matter at:

http://airlinesafety.com/articles/alpa2.htm

It will take a while to digest the whole report but if you do, you'll be an expert on the matter.


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