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British Airways A319 With Only One Winglet!  
User currently offlineCondor From Germany, joined Mar 2001, 68 posts, RR: 0
Posted (10 years 1 month 2 weeks 5 days 12 hours ago) and read 6100 times:

Hello!!!

Does anyone know why the winglet is missing on this plane???!!!

Even if you can´t see it I can tell you that the left side is definately OK!


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Oliver

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User currently offlineAnair From Spain, joined Dec 2000, 61 posts, RR: 0
Reply 1, posted (10 years 1 month 2 weeks 5 days 11 hours ago) and read 5950 times:

I saw the same in an Iberia A-320 that was about to take off from Dublin to Madrid. Some weeks later I asked an Airbus Iberia's captain and he told me that if there's a problem with a winglet you can remove it and fly without it.

I suppose that this annormal configuration will cause some yaw inflight....

Go ahead Airbus!!!



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User currently offlineAndz From South Africa, joined Feb 2004, 8414 posts, RR: 11
Reply 2, posted (10 years 1 month 2 weeks 5 days 10 hours ago) and read 5671 times:
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747s can fly with a winglet missing too.....


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By the way Airbus call them "wingtip fences"




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User currently offlineRyangooner From United Kingdom, joined Jul 2003, 969 posts, RR: 23
Reply 3, posted (10 years 1 month 2 weeks 5 days 9 hours ago) and read 5467 times:

I caught a similar pic of Air Canada's 744 missing a winglet last year.

Apparently (747-400) there is at least a 2% significant fuel increase if one of these 6 ft winglets is missing! - quite costly i would imagine.



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User currently offlineCodeshare From Poland, joined Sep 2002, 1854 posts, RR: 1
Reply 4, posted (10 years 1 month 2 weeks 5 days 9 hours ago) and read 5203 times:

Also G-EUPD has this "problem"  Big grin


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User currently offlineDC-10 Levo From United Kingdom, joined Nov 2001, 3432 posts, RR: 5
Reply 5, posted (10 years 1 month 2 weeks 5 days 6 hours ago) and read 5041 times:

Is it really a problem though? Will it be fixed?

DC-10


User currently offlineFritzi From United Arab Emirates, joined Jun 2001, 2762 posts, RR: 2
Reply 6, posted (10 years 1 month 2 weeks 5 days 6 hours ago) and read 4980 times:

Levo,

Is it really a problem though?

Obviously not a big one.


Will it be fixed?

Eventually, Yes. It may not be the most urgent item on the to-do list though.


User currently offlineAdria From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 7, posted (10 years 1 month 2 weeks 5 days 6 hours ago) and read 4934 times:

looks like the BA planes have this problem a lot. A saw(on a pic) a B744 with missing winglet

User currently offlineRichard28 From United Kingdom, joined Aug 2003, 1595 posts, RR: 6
Reply 8, posted (10 years 1 month 2 weeks 5 days 2 hours ago) and read 4684 times:

I flew on G-EUPD LHR-MAD last year. I seem to remember that someone posted here saying BA was testing the fuel efficency of having winglets.



User currently offlineCanadianNorth From Canada, joined Aug 2002, 3387 posts, RR: 9
Reply 9, posted (10 years 1 month 2 weeks 5 days 2 hours ago) and read 4619 times:

Its one of those minor things that can wait till they have a while to get it done...



CanadianNorth



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User currently offlineGodBless From Sweden, joined Apr 2000, 2752 posts, RR: 16
Reply 10, posted (10 years 1 month 2 weeks 5 days 2 hours ago) and read 4529 times:

I saw a BA A319 at CGN in early February that also had a wingfence missing. No idea what reg. that plane had, if it was the same then it has had it missing for at least four weeks now. So doesn't seem to be too much of a problem...

Max


User currently offlineJmc757 From United Kingdom, joined Mar 2000, 1296 posts, RR: 7
Reply 11, posted (10 years 1 month 2 weeks 5 days 1 hour ago) and read 4411 times:

Sure I saw a photo somehwre (maybe in AW?) of a 738 (Eurocypria?) that was flying without a winglet...

User currently offlineQantasA332 From Australia, joined Dec 2003, 1500 posts, RR: 26
Reply 12, posted (10 years 1 month 2 weeks 5 days 1 hour ago) and read 4282 times:

Not having one winglet or wingtip fence certainly does produce a yawing moment "around" the tip with no winglet, however this obviously isn't a huge problem and can be left alone for a while. It's funny though, BA always seems to have this going on...

Cheers,
QantasA332


User currently offlineSafetyDude From United States of America, joined Sep 2001, 3795 posts, RR: 15
Reply 13, posted (10 years 1 month 2 weeks 5 days ago) and read 4192 times:

If memory serves me correctly, there was a 737NG that had "winglets" but one of them (I believe the left one) some how fell off and they received permission from Boeing to fly the plane (it was in the UK or Ireland, I believe) without passengers, but I am not sure if this is the case with Airbus (no pax).

I will try to find the picture.

 Smile
-Will



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User currently offlineQ330 From Australia, joined Dec 2003, 1460 posts, RR: 22
Reply 14, posted (10 years 1 month 2 weeks 5 days ago) and read 4111 times:

I was on a United A320 while a wingtip fence was off. At the end of the flight we asked the pilots about it and they said the only difference it makes is a little more fuel burn.

By the way Airbus call them "wingtip fences"

The little winglets that extend above and below the wing (on the A32x family) are called fences:


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Normal upright ones are just called winglets:


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-Q



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