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CO Ranked No. 1 Most Admired Global Airline  
User currently offlineCory6188 From United States of America, joined Feb 2004, 2686 posts, RR: 6
Posted (10 years 1 month 2 weeks 4 days 21 hours ago) and read 5021 times:

Here's the press release from CO:

HOUSTON, March 2 /PRNewswire-FirstCall/ -- Continental Airlines (NYSE: CAL) today was rated the most admired airline among FORTUNE magazine's annual list of Most Admired Global Companies. The carrier ranked No. 1 in several key categories including innovation, employee talent, quality of management, use of corporate assets, social responsibility, long-term investment value and globalness. In addition, the airline ranked No. 45 on FORTUNE's Global Most-Admired "Top 50" list, which ranks companies in a wide variety of industries. Continental was the only U.S. carrier to rank on the "Top 50" list.

Continental was also rated the most admired international U.S. airline among FORTUNE magazine's annual list of America's Most Admired Companies. For the fifth consecutive year, Continental ranked No. 2 as the Most Admired U.S. Airline. Of the top-nine U.S. carriers ranked, Continental rated highest for the quality of its products and services. The Global Most Admired and America's Most Admired rankings are published in the magazine's March 8, 2004 issue and online at fortune.com .

"Continental continues to outperform its competition because of an unwavering focus on the fundamentals of our business -- to provide clean, safe and reliable air transportation," said Gordon Bethune, Continental's chairman and CEO. "That, coupled with the thousands of professional men and women that have made this airline great, is the basis of our success and the reason that our operation is considered one of the best in the world."

Corporate and airline executives, boards of directors and industry analysts ranked the U.S. airlines based on eight criteria: innovativeness, employee talent, use of corporate assets, social responsibility, quality of management, financial soundness, long-term investment value, and quality of products and services. Airlines appearing on the Global Most Admired lists were also ranked for globalness.

In January 2004, FORTUNE named Continental to its "100 Best Companies to Work For" list for the sixth consecutive year. The only passenger airline on the list, Continental ranked No. 62.

Continental Airlines is the world's seventh-largest airline with more than 2,300 daily departures to 126 domestic and 101 international destinations throughout the Americas, Europe and Asia. With 42,000 mainline employees, the airline has hubs serving New York, Houston, Cleveland and Guam, and carries approximately 51 million passengers per year. For more company information, visit continental.com .

SOURCE Continental Airlines


The title of the press release is somewhat taken out of context, but on the whole, I say bravo, CO! It's no surprise that the quality of their products and services came in first place.

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User currently offlineWindowSeat From United States of America, joined Sep 2003, 1311 posts, RR: 58
Reply 1, posted (10 years 1 month 2 weeks 4 days 21 hours ago) and read 4969 times:


From Worst to First, and now always First. Bravo, Gordo! (affectionately called 'Gordo' by my dear friend dave, before he flames me again for using his term), and the thousands of people at CO who make it happen everyday.

cheers



I'm all in favour of keeping dangerous weapons out of the hands of fools. Let's start with keyboards.
User currently offlineAA787 From United States of America, joined Feb 2004, 610 posts, RR: 13
Reply 2, posted (10 years 1 month 2 weeks 4 days 21 hours ago) and read 4957 times:

How did the rest of the list go?

AA787



ET In NYC
User currently onlineTonyBurr From United States of America, joined Mar 2001, 1012 posts, RR: 0
Reply 3, posted (10 years 1 month 2 weeks 4 days 21 hours ago) and read 4912 times:

I just flew them Sunday from EWR-LIM and I have to agree, they are good! Great personal service, good meal, goot attitude. It goes to show arilines can still be a service industry, without crying about bankruptcy, lousy management, etc.

Good for CO!


User currently offlineCOEWRNJ From United States of America, joined Oct 2003, 1061 posts, RR: 19
Reply 4, posted (10 years 1 month 2 weeks 4 days 21 hours ago) and read 4877 times:

Should we be surprised? They deserve it in every way..Go Gordo!! Keep on Rockin' CO!!

User currently offlineNetdhaka From Bangladesh, joined Feb 2004, 182 posts, RR: 0
Reply 5, posted (10 years 1 month 2 weeks 4 days 20 hours ago) and read 4830 times:

Good for CO. It would be nice to see how other global airlines did in those categories according to FORTUNE.

User currently offlineMarcopolo747 From Brazil, joined Mar 2001, 460 posts, RR: 2
Reply 6, posted (10 years 1 month 2 weeks 4 days 20 hours ago) and read 4800 times:


Congratulations to CO ! It has been my airline of choice to the US since 2001 and I don't regret having changed to CO since then.


User currently offlineDelta767300ER From United States of America, joined Dec 2003, 2562 posts, RR: 12
Reply 7, posted (10 years 1 month 2 weeks 4 days 19 hours ago) and read 4684 times:

I will say that I havent seen the level of service that Furtune has advisted about Continental, However the many times I have never had a bad experience. My only gripe with Continental is if you dont live in IAH, EWR, or CLE you usually have to make a Connection. I'm not saying thats a bad thing (Unless your going thru CLE  Big thumbs up) but for the routes I fly CO isnt practical. Another thing is it is kind of hard to get on one of their wide-body flights domestically. I'm a spoiled Delta 767 dude though!

-Delta767300ER


User currently offlineFutureualpilot From United States of America, joined May 2000, 2598 posts, RR: 8
Reply 8, posted (10 years 1 month 2 weeks 4 days 14 hours ago) and read 4537 times:

Last time I flew CO I had a great experience with them. I can see how they would rank so high on the list.

"From Worst to First"....how true.



Life is better when you surf.
User currently offlineIndustrialPate From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 9, posted (10 years 1 month 2 weeks 4 days 14 hours ago) and read 4520 times:

Amazing how each publication comes up with a different #1 airline...

User currently offlineCOIAH99 From United States of America, joined Dec 2003, 251 posts, RR: 5
Reply 10, posted (10 years 1 month 2 weeks 4 days 14 hours ago) and read 4467 times:

And what other publications would that be IP?


Work Hard Fly Right
User currently offlineCO737800 From Canada, joined Dec 2003, 545 posts, RR: 1
Reply 11, posted (10 years 1 month 2 weeks 4 days 14 hours ago) and read 4460 times:

I have been on CO lots and I can tell you that no other US airline even comes close to the service you get on CO

User currently offlineSR 103 From United States of America, joined Sep 2000, 1736 posts, RR: 39
Reply 12, posted (10 years 1 month 2 weeks 4 days 14 hours ago) and read 4417 times:

Excellent news. Good to know CO is recognized for their excellent service. On the whole, most of their employees work hard to provide great experiences for us frequent flyers. No doubt CO keeps winning this category. Good job CO.

SR 103


User currently offlineIndustrialPate From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 13, posted (10 years 1 month 2 weeks 4 days 14 hours ago) and read 4402 times:

And what other publications would that be IP?

If you frequent boards like airliners.net, US Aviation, FlyerTalk, etc. you'll know that numerous publications, not just Forbes, have their own 'best airline,' 'most admired airline,' etc. survey. Qantas, Singapore Airlines and heck - even NW (a major Japanese publication voted NW the best USA airline) - have won awards.

I will maintain that well CO offers a very good in-flight product, they lack in most other areas.


User currently offlineAlpha 1 From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 14, posted (10 years 1 month 2 weeks 4 days 13 hours ago) and read 4405 times:

I find their fleet very boring

And what does that have to do with making a profit? Or having good service? Or running a good route structure? Or winning awards? Care to tell me?  Laugh out loud

You are going to fly a 767 or 777 unless you fly internationally!!!!

Maybe the fact that UA, DL, AA have a glut of widebodies and can't fill all of them is an essential reason why they can't come close to make an operating profit right now. CO? They're flyihg the right sized aircraft in the right markets, and are pretty close to break even. Maybe it's boring to you to fly a 738 EWR-LAX, but it makes operational and fiscal sense for the airline. Isn't that the bottom line?

I do not like their idea of 757 trans-Atlantic service.

Maybe you don't, but it's safe, and it obviously works. Tell me, what other American carries fly NYC-BHX? NYC-LIS? CLE-LGW? NYC-OSL? None you say? Well maybe that's because CO found a nice niche with the 75B to run routes that wouldn't be profitable with a 767 or 777.

CO's hub system does not make geographic sense for the majority of the country.

How is that? EWR: serves the east coast, is the main International gateway, and serves siginficant traffic to Florida. IAH: gateway to Mexico, has a lot of International service, and is a conduit from the southeast to the west coast. CLE: serves the Midwest in a way EWR and IAH cannot. Provides secondary routings to Florida and the west coast. The hub structure obviously works well, or else CO wouldn't be doing as well as it has.

CLE is all 737 and regional jet service.

 Laugh out loud So? Both fit the market perfectly. It's a mid-sized market, and you don't dump a load of widebodies in a mid-sized market when New York beckons to worldwide destinations.  Laugh out loud

IAH is to far south for most

It's not much farther south than ATL for DL, or DFW for AA. It serves more Mexican cities than any carrier; it has global service. If it's such a bad hub, why is it constantly expanding and getting bigger?

EWR does not serve much purpose other than servicing the New York and New Jersey population.

If you can't even see that it's the largest financial market in the world; it serves one of the largest tourist destinations in the world, in New York; it's got a base of 20 million people at least, who are from every part of the globe; and that every other airline would kill to have a hub like CO has in Newark, then you've missed the whole point of it. Newark is a gold mine for CO. Can you say the same thing for UA in Denver? I doubt it.

Please explain!!!! I live in Chicago and fly predominately UA. For example, I am going next week to LAX and look and look at all the aircraft options I have to choose from for this flight; 757, 767, 747-400 (soon), A319 and A320. Now that is exciting to me.

UA is in bankruptcy, is it not? UA is losing money head over heals, is it not? UA is in deep doo-doo, is it not?

If you want to make arguments, make them on common sense and facts, not how "exciting" the aircraft is. CO right now is the cream of the crop among the big 6, financially and operationally, and none of your "arguments" even address that fact.


User currently offlineUaord From United States of America, joined Nov 2003, 86 posts, RR: 0
Reply 15, posted (10 years 1 month 2 weeks 4 days 13 hours ago) and read 4321 times:

Well I guess that Alpha1 did not read CNN today:


"Continental Airlines warned Tuesday its plans to break even or be profitable this year are "at great risk" due to high jet fuel and oil prices. A monumental problem out there for all the carriers," Continental's chief financial officer, Jeff Misner, said at an airline conference in New York. Shares of Continental (CAL: down $0.72 to $14.75, Research, Estimates), the nation's No. 5 airline, tumbled nearly 5 percent in active New York Stock Exchange trading.


Late on Monday, Continental reported that system-wide unit revenue, measuring how much money is taken in per available seat mile, fell an estimated 2.5 to 3.5 percent in February. UBS Warburg analyst Sam Buttrick called the results "disappointing" and well below his expectation of 2 percent growth. He widened his first-quarter estimated loss for Houston-based Continental to $1.20 per share from a previously estimated loss of 85 cents a share. "



New York:


CO will continue to lose market share to the likes of Jetblue and Song out of New York. JFK is a more important international port and served by many more international airlines than EWR and CO.



757 Transatlantic Service


CO has dropped the CLE-LGW flight, if there was really a fantastic demand for all the routes you listed above, other airlines would follow.



Domestic widebody service


The likes of DL, AA, and UA use widebody aircraft for domestic routes in part because of the large demand between their hubs, a little more than EWR-CLE or IAH-CLE. I realize they also ferry the aircraft for maintenance and rotation purposes.


Financial Standing

Unfortunately CO is heading like all the major airlines into BK. How many times has CO emerged from BK? Twice? I do not think DL or AA have previously filed for BK and nor had UA until this past summer. The high price of unions is what will drive the airlines out of business and as USAirways has learned, it is hard to have the lowest operating costs when you have a stong union and higher east-cost operating expenses. CO needs to maintain a hub on the west coast, that is where the population is shifting!!!!





Fleet


If CO operated a more fuel efficient fleet such as Airbus versus the 737 and MD-80, the higher cost of fuel would not be such an issue. CO still operate 767-200's (most airlines have retired the 200-series) and CO' were one of the last airlines to retire the DC-10. How old are CO's MD-80? No wonder they code-share with NWA.




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[Edited 2004-03-03 06:02:31]

[Edited 2004-03-03 06:04:36]

User currently offlineB747-437B From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 16, posted (10 years 1 month 2 weeks 4 days 13 hours ago) and read 4295 times:

This is almost getting to be as amusing as the Turkish to YYZ thread!!!

User currently offlineAlpha 1 From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 17, posted (10 years 1 month 2 weeks 4 days 12 hours ago) and read 4261 times:

Continental Airlines warned Tuesday its plans to break even or be profitable this year are "at great risk" due to high jet fuel and oil prices. A monumental problem out there for all the carriers,"

I read it. What do you think that will do to UA, who is still hemmhoraging money? CO can withstand that right now. Can UA, with that "exciting" fleet stand such huge increases in fuel? THAT'S a question you should ask, not what kind of planes they're fly in a given market.

CO will continue to lose market share to the likes of Jetblue and Song out of New York.

To some extent? Perhaps. But not to the extent it will hurt AA, since AA is directly competing aginst B6 at JFK. But CO is firmly entrenced in EWR, and that hub can withstand B6 and Song.

CO has dropped the CLE-LGW flight, if there was really a fantastic demand for all the routes you listed above, other airlines would follow.

CO has not dropped the flight. They run it during peak summer seasons, when there is the best chance to make a profit. Does it make sense to fly it during off-peak times, when a profit cannot be made? And why would other airlines follow? It's a medium sized market, and more than one flight wouldn't make much sense. The flight does very well in the summer-it's damn near full every day during the peak times. I know-I've worked that flight a lot. CO runs it exactly the way they should, in a soft economy. If demands picks up, they'll increase the service. But for now, it doesn't make sense economically to do so.

The likes of DL, AA, and UA use widebody aircraft for domestic routes in part because of the large demand between their hubs.

That may be, but the other reason they use them is that they have so many of the friggin' things, and they have to fly them somewhere. And that's just killing their bottom line right now. CO, on the other hand, instead of flying empty seats between EWR-LAX with a 767-400, is flying 738's, and optimizing their chance to make a profit. A "sexy" plane doesn't lead to profits, as you obviously haven't learned.

Unfortunately CO is heading like all the major airlines into BK.

Actually, CO will be the last major to do so, if they ever do. Operationally, they're heads and shoulders ahead of UA and their "exciting" fleet. CO is on the right track, and your pitiful little arguments don't change tha fact.

I won't further dignify the ignorance of what you say. You understand nothing about the economics of airlines. You understand little if anything about what makes an airline successful-it isn't big "exciting" aircraft, or exotic hubs, or running a widebody just to show what big ball-bearings you have. It's crafting a sensible business plan, and giving your employees the tools to execute that plan properly. CO has done that, which is why we are successful, and a carrier like UA is struggling.


[Edited 2004-03-03 06:16:27]

User currently offlineNIKV69 From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 18, posted (10 years 1 month 2 weeks 4 days 12 hours ago) and read 4237 times:

Gordon Bethune is the man! I surprised though, I know CO is a great airline and my personal favorite, but to get this honor is great. Go Gordo!

Bethune 2004


User currently offlineIndustrialPate From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 19, posted (10 years 1 month 2 weeks 4 days 12 hours ago) and read 4244 times:

Oh boy, I'd defending CO - what have I reduced myself to?

Well I guess that Alpha1 did not read CNN today:

I guess Uaord doesn't realize that CO's stock has been on the rise lately, today's decrease was a routine/minor set back.

CO will continue to lose market share to the likes of Jetblue and Song out of New York. JFK is a more important international port and served by many more international airlines than EWR and CO.

- Song’s not expanding in the near future, so how could it steal CO’s markshare?

- If JFK is more of an “international port,” than how is B6 going to steal significant marketshare from CO? EWR is certainly more attractive than JFK to most people when it comes to getting to/from Manhattan vs. JFK.

- CO’s international presence has increased at EWR every year for awhile now.

CO has dropped the CLE-LGW flight, if there was really a fantastic demand for all the routes you listed above, other airlines would follow.

No, CLE-LGW will re-inaugurate this spring. The facet that CO was willing to drop routes like CLE-LGW and EWR-DUS should indicate that their other B752 services are stable… and AA will try B752 transatlantic service again this year.

The likes of DL, AA, and UA use widebody aircraft for domestic routes in part because of the large demand between their hubs…

The bulk of DL’s domestic widebody service is ex-ATL, a region in which they dominate (no surprise ATL is near the top in movements worldwide); more than 80% of their domestic flights ex-CVG, SLC and DFW (their other hubs) are operated with regional jets.

Other than repositional/Hawaii flights/three-cabin transcon, AA operates domestic widebodies on flights between MIA & the Northeast and LAX – that’s it.

Virtually all of UA’s widebody service is concentrated between its hubs/focus cities, Hawaii & transcontinental. The airline has indicated three-cabin 757 will replace its three-cabin 762 on transcontinental routes. If UA did not control the Gold Coast, you would see few domestic widebody flights.

How many times has CO emerged from BK? Twice?

Thank you for your armature analysis. The CO of today is not the CO of bankrupt yesteryear…

CO needs to maintain a hub on the west coast, that is where the population is shifting!!!!

While the bulk of the population, including key business cities, are still in the Eastern USA?

If CO operated a more fuel efficient fleet such as Airbus versus the 737 and MD-80, the higher cost of fuel would not be such an issue.

Huh? CO’s fleet is young & fuel-efficient… the MD-80s will be gone within a year, leaving the ~50 B733 as the only aircraft delivered before 1994, with most of the fleet delivered since 1998. The A319/A320 certainly isn’t that much more fuel efficient than the B737-300/500 and is comparable to the B737NG.

CO still operate 767-200's (most airlines have retired the 200-series) and CO' were one of the last airlines to retire the DC-10.

CO’s B762 are less than 4-years-old. Not a single USA-based passenger airline has retired the B762; AA, UA, DL and US still operate the majority of their fleet (and all operate more than CO’s 10). And CO retired the DC-10 within MONTHS of AA and UA…

How old are CO's MD-80?

About the same age as UA/US’s B733 and most of AA’s MD80.

No wonder they code-share with NWA.

This statement is just as pathetic as the rest of your argument.

[Edited 2004-03-03 06:27:57]

User currently offlineQIguy24 From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 20, posted (10 years 1 month 2 weeks 4 days 12 hours ago) and read 4222 times:

I have flewn CO many times in the last few years I have been flying domestic in the US. And I must also agree that they provide very good service. That's for sure. Thumbs up for them  Big thumbs up

But I would say that I am also satisfied wit the other US carriers that I have tried.


User currently offlineCOIAH99 From United States of America, joined Dec 2003, 251 posts, RR: 5
Reply 21, posted (10 years 1 month 2 weeks 4 days 12 hours ago) and read 4170 times:

IndustrialPate and Alpha1

Thank you for your posts. I know you in particular IP are not much of a CO fan but I appreciate what you have said. I was on my way home from work when this thread took off( no pun intended!) and was about to respond to what Uaord had said. I'll save it for another time since you two did a great job!  Big thumbs up



Work Hard Fly Right
User currently offlineRussophile From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 22, posted (10 years 1 month 2 weeks 4 days 11 hours ago) and read 4131 times:

The most admired global airline as voted by Fortune magazine readers -- a readership based which is heavily slanted towards the American readership -- nearly 90% American circulation I believe (correct me if I am wrong). So of course you won't see a much better run international airline in there.

HOLD THE PRESSES!!!



What's this I see....

http://money.cnn.com/2004/02/23/news/companies/fortune_best/

NEW YORK (CNN/Money) - Wal-Mart Stores topped Fortune magazine's list of most admired companies for a second year in a row while International Business Machines made the list after a 17-year absence.

Warren Buffett's Berkshire Hathaway (BRK.B: Research, Estimates) grabbed the No. 2 spot as Southwest Airlines (LUV: Research, Estimates) flew in at No. 3.

Hmmmmm.....


User currently offlineCLEfan From United States of America, joined Nov 2001, 299 posts, RR: 1
Reply 23, posted (10 years 1 month 2 weeks 4 days 11 hours ago) and read 4112 times:

Russophile,

If you read the CO press release it says specifically "Continental was also rated the most admired international U.S. airline..."

WN does not serve any international destinations, hence they cannot be the most admired international airline.


User currently offlineRussophile From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 24, posted (10 years 1 month 2 weeks 4 days 11 hours ago) and read 4100 times:

Yeah I know that -- but CO's doing a song and dance over the receival of this award doesn't mean diddly squat when they lag behind another airline in their most important market.

Anyway, magazine and internet surveys really don't mean a thing -- would be very interesting to see just how many non-American readers voted for CO though.

But it could have been worse -- they could have paid Skytrax, the joke of the industry, to put them in the top spot.  Big grin


25 ND : I think the fact that Continental has been bankrupt many times before helps them because they now have experience in getting themselves out of it. Whe
26 Post contains images Russophile : Also, I do want to add -- I do believe CO is a reasonably well run airline -- I just don't believe that this is the case on a global scale, and from a
27 Post contains images Slider : While it's tempting to also engage in an attempt to respond to UAORD, I'll digress. Great posts by Alpha and IP...kudos gents. Instead, I'll celebrate
28 Cadet93 : I agree.....CO is a great airline. They go almost every where you want to go out of EWR non-stop.....Makes for easier flying. The thing I cant stand a
29 Alpha 1 : They double the price of the ticket to fly in the front of the plane. Plus they want the miles on top of it. What is the sense of having miles to upgr
30 AeroAussie : BRAVO CO! I am a Silver Elite with CO, and for good reason. Their product is consistently good, they have brand-spanking new airplanes, the service is
31 Ual777contrail : alpha1, your postings on this topic grow old, you claim CO is such an awesome carrier and that should speak for itself, why is it that you always have
32 Greg : CO has some strange habits. Being Houston based we sent our travel bid out to UA, CO, AA, and DL for consideration of domestic travel. Basically, we p
33 Unicorn : I note that it was voted #1 by a US based magazine, and voted the top US airline. I have some issues with a US magazine that selects a US based airlin
34 JBLUA320 : IndustrialPate- WOW! I could not have said it better myself! You nailed everything right on the head. Good for Continetnal, they really deserve this a
35 Klwright69 : Oh my goodness, Ual777contrail, you crack me up! That was one of the funniests post I have ever read on here. "Alpha 1, your postings on this topic gr
36 Post contains images Alpha 1 : alpha1, your postings on this topic grow old, you claim CO is such an awesome carrier and that should speak for itself, why is it that you always have
37 Ual777contrail : apha1, There you go again using UAL as your bench mark, it is nice to see UAL has a place in your argument. You brought up UAL because of a guys user
38 Post contains images Dc10hound : I guess Uaord doesn't realize that CO's stock has been on the rise lately, today's decrease was a routine/minor set back. Whoa, hold on thar! I own st
39 Post contains images Alpha 1 : , There you go again using UAL as your bench mark. Well, let's see: they both had hubs in DEN at one time; they both have been through Chapter 11. Wel
40 B747-437B : CO Has always been the brunt of jokes CO may have been the brunt of jokes. Alas UAL IS the biggest joke today. Spare us the crap about UAL having turn
41 IndustrialPate : For a product that, on an average Trans-Atlantic flight, is $3000 to $4500 ONE WAY, that doesn't sound like a bad deal, now does it? Sorry Alpha 1, bu
42 Uaord : As a frequent flyer who flies 100,000 + miles per year, domestic widebody service is important. Meetings often end early or are cancelled at the last
43 Post contains images Alpha 1 : Well, IP, we've agreed to disagree on that one, so I'll let you have the last, definative word on the subject.
44 Alpha 1 : As a frequent flyer who flies 100,000 + miles per year, domestic widebody service is important. Maybe it is, but 1. CO does not have the plethora of w
45 SR 103 : For a product that, on an average Trans-Atlantic flight, is $3000 to $4500 ONE WAY, that doesn't sound like a bad deal, now does it? HELL! For a one w
46 Post contains images Alpha 1 : HELL! For a one way that is too much. Maybe so. I know it is for me. But people DO pay it. I remember one agent at our counter got TWO paid upgrades i
47 IndustrialPate : …domestic widebody service is important. Your reasoning is bogus. Let’s look at the widebody flying of AA, UA and DL: UA: * transcontinental - and
48 BigB : You must know the financial secret as to why CO was the only airline to continue to buy the 757. You would think that such a strong and important airl
49 Alpha 1 : UAL777contrail, I'm not "attacking" you on here, and I've yet to see any mud that you've been talking about. My point is this: you and a few others on
50 Greg : Passengers don't give a crap about the equipment they fly..only that it is safe, ontime, and at a reasonable price. Never confuse what an enthusiasts
51 Post contains images Alpha 1 : Damn, Greg, that's maybe the first time I've ever agreed with you. Well said.
52 Slider : Very well-reasoned posts by Alpha1 and Greg above. These intra-airline pissing contests really don't prove a thing. I'm happy with my company, I can s
53 Bobnwa : Gregg I suggest that your company (firm) did not negotiate it's contract with CO that well, if you're having problems getting C class seats when you s
54 Thadocta : After reading the topic, and the first ten posts, I have to ask - WHAT DRUGS ARE THEY ON? I WANT SOME! Dave
55 Alpha 1 : Thadocta: please elaborate.
56 Post contains images Alpha 1 : I also find it amusing, UAL777contrail, that you pick on CO because it has MD-80's. Maybe you aren't following the news, and don't know that CO will h
57 Slider : I still think you're jealous of CO these days. We have a bingo!! Ding, ding, ding!! On target, Alpha1...
58 Post contains images Alpha 1 : Do I win a door prize or anything, Slider?
59 Greg : Bobnwa...actually, no..we weren't getting what was contractually obligated..and it was an internal CO issue. We sued for termination on the basis of n
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