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Iberia Will Change MIA's Hub  
User currently offlineAnxebla From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Posted (10 years 6 months 2 weeks 3 days 22 hours ago) and read 12095 times:

Iberia will give up MIA's hub according to the spanish newspaper "El Mundo".
The newspaper says:"Habrá un nuevo Hub en Centroamérica" (there will be a new hub in CentralAmerica) and "Las fuertes medidas de seguridad ahuyentan a Iberia de EEUU" (the big security's measures in USA frighten away to IB)
Many pax have complain about MIA's hub.
Iberia will seek a new hub in Central America.Cancún,Panamá and Costa Rica are candidates
What do you think about this notice?

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User currently offlineStefandotde From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 1, posted (10 years 6 months 2 weeks 3 days 22 hours ago) and read 11997 times:

One word: great!
Why should they keep Miami as their hub when transit passengers are treated as potential criminals?


User currently offlineTransIsland From Bahamas, joined Mar 2004, 2046 posts, RR: 9
Reply 2, posted (10 years 6 months 2 weeks 3 days 22 hours ago) and read 11956 times:

I agree. I try and avoid going through the US when going to and from Europe, because I don't like the way I'm treated.

How about HAV as a new hub?  Big grin



I'm an aviation expert. I have Sky Juice for breakfast.
User currently offlineEzycrew From Spain, joined Oct 2001, 460 posts, RR: 3
Reply 3, posted (10 years 6 months 2 weeks 3 days 22 hours ago) and read 11938 times:

I can totally understand. My last visit to MIA airport was so humiliating, that it's no wonder IB decides to close down its hub there.
It's really sad, indeed.


User currently offlineAnxebla From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 4, posted (10 years 6 months 2 weeks 3 days 22 hours ago) and read 11925 times:

yes,Stefan...
Pax from CentralAmerica,in general,don't like to make transit in MIA.


User currently offlineUshermittwoch From Germany, joined Jan 2004, 2965 posts, RR: 16
Reply 5, posted (10 years 6 months 2 weeks 3 days 22 hours ago) and read 11916 times:

I agree with Stefan.
And to be honest, I think that is the way to go. If a country treats you and your business bad, look for an alternative. I am also pretty sure that a smaller market country will do EVERYTHING that Iberia want.
A smart move if they do it, just sad for the spotters at MIA.



Where have all the tri-jets gone...
User currently offlineRojo From Spain, joined Sep 2000, 2452 posts, RR: 9
Reply 6, posted (10 years 6 months 2 weeks 3 days 22 hours ago) and read 11892 times:

Interesting, but I wonder which city will get IB's business if they go forward with this plan... MIA has two advantages, it is centrally located as a door to Latin America and has the benefit of an AA domestic and international hub. Lets see if their new plans work well!!!

User currently offlineB752fanatic From United States of America, joined Jul 2003, 918 posts, RR: 8
Reply 7, posted (10 years 6 months 2 weeks 3 days 22 hours ago) and read 11831 times:

This has been discussed a lot of times.

Iberia will not leave MIA, they have more than 12 years here.

And they will not leave this strategic location, for the one world partner and for the great O/D it has from MIA to MAD.

"Cancún,Panamá and Costa Rica" thats a lot of bull... I dont buy that.

These airports cant handle the traffic,

CUN: no space for 5 aircraft at a time only by IB.

SJO: the airport is too small.

PTY: I just dont know how this city came up, Thats why I think this is bull.

This topic has been burned here, and you guys dont get it.

They wont move.



"Truth is more of a stranger than fiction." Mark Twain
User currently offlineStefandotde From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 8, posted (10 years 6 months 2 weeks 3 days 22 hours ago) and read 11822 times:

Why should IB care an AA hub when they have their own hub there?
As much as I know there were lots of angry passengers who dislike US hubs and when it's possible to use another hub, they can do. There are much more centrally located places in the caribbean I think.


User currently offlineIBERIA747 From Spain, joined Aug 2003, 1831 posts, RR: 58
Reply 9, posted (10 years 6 months 2 weeks 3 days 22 hours ago) and read 11795 times:

Andrés:
I would appreciate if you could provide us with the link to this information so I can take a look at it.

Thanks a lot.

Alfonso




¡¡VIVA ESPAÑA!!
User currently offlineAnxebla From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 10, posted (10 years 6 months 2 weeks 3 days 22 hours ago) and read 11774 times:

B752...
If you can understand spanish,see "El Mundo"
This time can mean it.


User currently offlineIberia340600 From Spain, joined Oct 2003, 804 posts, RR: 13
Reply 11, posted (10 years 6 months 2 weeks 3 days 22 hours ago) and read 11774 times:

In my opinion...this latest report is more than anything a scare tactic to the U.S. DOT to improve transit conditions at MIA AP. Moving the HUB to another city just doesnt make sense...there is no the feeder traffic that MIA produces. If you stick the HUB in Cancun for example...you will not get the same amount of feeder traffic to the other central american destination as you would in MIA. IB needs MIA to fill up the seats that are not sold in MAD. Then again...this whole...IB will move thing has been going on for years....who knows how long it could be before anything actually happens.


Visca Barça!!
User currently offlineStefandotde From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 12, posted (10 years 6 months 2 weeks 3 days 22 hours ago) and read 11740 times:

If customers demand it, IB will do - no doubt.
There are different opportunities, I am sure. And I hope they will do.
It's just a question how people get treated.


User currently offlineVectorVictor From United States of America, joined Feb 2005, 0 posts, RR: 0
Reply 13, posted (10 years 6 months 2 weeks 3 days 22 hours ago) and read 11735 times:

All conjecture and heresay Stefandotde.

Please provide hard numbers to show that non-American transit passengers through Miami (and while we are at Houston, Atlanta, et. al.) have fallen because of new rules...

Iberia is going to be hard pressed to find any airport withing 500 miles of Miami that can provide suitable infastructure as well the pax/cargo/connections that Miami provides.

If they close Miami, the might as well serve as many destination nonstop or with tag ons to other flights.


User currently offlineAnxebla From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 14, posted (10 years 6 months 2 weeks 3 days 22 hours ago) and read 11692 times:

Alfonso...
I've seen in aviaciondigital.com with a link to "El Mundo"


User currently offlineTavve From Sweden, joined Sep 2003, 172 posts, RR: 0
Reply 15, posted (10 years 6 months 2 weeks 3 days 22 hours ago) and read 11687 times:

It's a logic move.

A related question:
I'm not a frequent flyer but I've noticed a few things. When flying from A to C via B, where both A & C are non US cities but B is a US city, you have to enter B's country (USA)!!! Why? Is this system used at all international airports in the USA or just a few? What about MIA? Is that system used in any other country?



GOT, that's where I live
User currently offlineFlymunich From Germany, joined Mar 2004, 171 posts, RR: 0
Reply 16, posted (10 years 6 months 2 weeks 3 days 22 hours ago) and read 11630 times:

I think SDQ is the right airport to handle the small IB Hub?



User currently offlineIberia340600 From Spain, joined Oct 2003, 804 posts, RR: 13
Reply 17, posted (10 years 6 months 2 weeks 3 days 22 hours ago) and read 11623 times:

Tavve:

Unfortunately this system was implemented post 9/11 due to "Terrorist" security concerns. Before 9/11 pax transiting through MIA would go to a transit lounge and wait there until the connecting flight was ready for boarding. Simply the burocracies of this country.



Visca Barça!!
User currently offlineAnxebla From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 18, posted (10 years 6 months 2 weeks 3 days 22 hours ago) and read 11587 times:

Iberia340600
It's true many pax are not happy at all with the stop in MIA and not only for burocracies' troubles.


User currently offlineB747skipper From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 19, posted (10 years 6 months 2 weeks 3 days 21 hours ago) and read 11569 times:

Cuba would be a great hub for them. In view of the future political changes there, by establishing itself in Havana now, IB will be well anchored in the Carribean, could definitely (then) support Cubana, and become a major force, when "things finally change"...
xxx
Happy contrails  Smile
(s) Skipper


User currently offlineAnxebla From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 20, posted (10 years 6 months 2 weeks 3 days 21 hours ago) and read 11492 times:

No, I don't agree with you.For now,HAV can't be a hub.HAV is not very big,is not very new and will need many changes for to be a modern airport

User currently offlineRojo From Spain, joined Sep 2000, 2452 posts, RR: 9
Reply 21, posted (10 years 6 months 2 weeks 3 days 21 hours ago) and read 11465 times:

I can picture IB having a hub in HAV and some United States of America Citizens flying MIA-HAV-MAD during the summer...

User currently offlineLatinAviation From United States of America, joined Nov 2003, 1276 posts, RR: 14
Reply 22, posted (10 years 6 months 2 weeks 3 days 21 hours ago) and read 11463 times:

This subject comes up monthly in this forum. IB has a long history and a huge infastructure in Miami. Until IB releases a press statement, it's all talk.

User currently offlineMt99 From United States of America, joined May 1999, 6594 posts, RR: 6
Reply 23, posted (10 years 6 months 2 weeks 3 days 21 hours ago) and read 11446 times:
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This is my take on possible hubs in Central America.

CUN - Maybe, never been there so no comment

PTY - Small Airport, crowded?

SJO - Probably the biggest destination of all the MAD - Central America Traffic, so it probable. Not sure about airport capacity though. Modern Airport

GUA - Small outdated airport 6 gates total

TGU - No landing after dark

SAP - Small outdated airport

MGA - Small but underused airport?

SAL - Modern Airport, plenty of gates and space available, although most passengers would prob connect to other places like SJO.





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User currently offlineORDagent From United States of America, joined Dec 2003, 823 posts, RR: 1
Reply 24, posted (10 years 6 months 2 weeks 3 days 21 hours ago) and read 11395 times:

I can completely understand why IB would yank MIA as a hub. No airports in the U.S. have sterile concourses that allow foreign pax transiting the country to do so without clearing customs and immigrations. That is a huge waste of time for people that are only going to be in the country to change aircraft.

Andrew


25 LatinAviation : SAP - Small outdated airport Small, yes. Outdated? Nope. It was overhauled in the late '90s with a new passenger terminal, jetbridges, etc. Very comfo
26 Flymia : I dont think so. First Miami has sp much O/D market and i dont know if they want to use the facilities in those Central American cities. Cancun is not
27 Juanr : It would be great if they choose BOG as their new hub instead of MIA, that would mean access not only to Central American destinations but also to Bol
28 LatinAviation : Where is MAH4546 when you need him?
29 EddieDude : I think that a new hub outside the U.S. is going to be very good for Central American pax. However, I wonder if any of the airports that have been men
30 MaverickM11 : PTY??? Where on earth would you connect to in PTY? Clipperton? The Galapagos? PTY does not serve IB in any way for onward connections to Latin America
31 Rojo : PTY has no space for expansion. CM has grown so much there that during their two banks of flights the airport becomes a total mess. Panama needs to do
32 Skymonster : I have to laugh at the arrogance of the people outside of the airline who say Iberia would never do that - its strange what market pressures can somet
33 Bkkair : Anexebla, Where is the link to this source or is this old news just to start the monthly IB leaving MIA thread? I found nothing on El Mundo or aviacio
34 Anxebla : Bkkair: Check again: www.aviaciondigital.com "Las fuertes medidas de seguridad ahuyentan a Iberia de EEUU" it's close to top-page http://elmundoviajes
35 MIA : Hey guys. Well Iberia has been threatening to leave MIA for some time now. The thing is they wont. Why? They sell their planes to Central America with
36 B752fanatic : Ok, this is the link:http://elmundoviajes.elmundo.es/elmundoviajes/noticia.html?seccion=cronica&nombre=1078431558 But I really dont buy it. Guys, I am
37 Anxebla : IB needs MIA more than MIA needs IB... umm. I don't know my answer for this. But believe me,B752 IB is TIRE OUT of MIA and very fed up of to receive c
38 Post contains links Bkkair : Thanks for the link Anexebla! A rough translation (from babelfish.altavista.com) of the link from http://elmundoviajes.elmundo.es/elmundoviajes/notici
39 Post contains images Anxebla : You're welcome,Bkkair
40 Post contains images Copa737 : Rojo, Panama is doing his job with the Tocumen Airport. The works will begin in June 2004 and will be finish in one year. The airport will have a new
41 Plaaneboy : Until they send out a press release, I have to agree with Latinaviation. With the amount of money already invested by IB in Miami, it would a take a g
42 MAH4546 : Iberia is not going anywhere. As it has been said, Iberia needs Miami more than Miami needs Iberia. First of all: 1) There is no alternative. Not one
43 Ibe1238 : It's true that we receive a lot of complaints about the Miami Hub and that many passengers refuse flying to Central America through MIA due to the ext
44 Mt99 : You guys are crazy if you think the governments of countries like El Salvador and Mexico would ever give Iberia 5th freedom rights Unless they code s
45 LH423 : B752fanatic: You're missing the point. From your words "We have granted permission for ITI, so when the passangers pass inmigration, right to the left
46 MAH4546 : Unless they code share with Mexicana/Aeromexico out of CUN, or TACA to rest of CA. Which is not only unlikely, but entirely elimates the point of oper
47 MAH4546 : I personally would not be surprised if MIA and a flight or two to the new hub. Even with a closed hub, Iberia would still offer double-daily service b
48 B752fanatic : People, MIA has more ways out to Europe than any other city in the Americas (latin america etc). When problems come, we take the pax to other carriers
49 Airbus Lover : Totally with LH423... With the suspension of Transit without visa program it is a heck of a hassle to transit in the US. Transit time may be less than
50 Hugojimenez : My personal opinion is that the best choice for IB in Central America, is SAL!
51 VectorVictor : but if it's just a better deal making MIA a spoke city with transit passengers going through a friendlier environment, then why not But as MAH5456 rig
52 Post contains images Airliner777 : If IB would leave MIA I think HAV would be a great option since many "Gallegos" love to fly there. Yes, they only have a couple of jetways, but one th
53 Iberia340600 : Everyone, For all of you talking about IB moving and saying how HAV would be great or SAL would be great or CUN would be great....the point is....THOS
54 Post contains images Ghost77 : In case its true I think CUN will be choosen. This year they'll start the construction for a new parallel runway which will be the second in the airpo
55 Hugojimenez : TWAL 1011 All people concerned about this point are legals and decent ones. The fact that "Iberia is not an American company..." its not the point. Yo
56 Yyz717 : Geographically, SJU or CUN make the most sense. San Jose and Panama City are perhaps too far west.
57 CptGirmayTesfa : TWAL1011: There is no back door here: Those who have visa for Europe (Schengen) can also get it for the USA (actually, it is easier to get a US visa t
58 Scottb : I must agree with MAH4546 and B752fanatic -- Iberia's threats to move its MIA hub to somewhere else in the Americas are quite hollow. It is indeed tru
59 CptGirmayTesfa : Scottb: A reminder: the planes used as weapons were used on domestic flights and on US-airliners. US are frustrating the movements of flights that are
60 MAH4546 : Geographically, SJU or CUN make the most sense. Moving to San Juan solves nothing. San Juan is the United States. only countries which lack a national
61 Scottb : TA may operate as the Honduran national carrier (I remember they operated a subsidiary called "TACA de Honduras" for a while after SAHSA failed) but I
62 B752fanatic : I see so many people happy about an eventual move from MIA to another place with this hub. I ask a simple question, anybody here that has been in tran
63 WiLdmanVzla : IB ?!!! As one of the worst airlines in the world (the other is AA) they can get out of any airport as soon as they want to!!!!! Anyway... SDQ for exa
64 CptGirmayTesfa : I used the MIA transit numerous times before and after 9/11: two things that has become really bad: *the lines at immigration. *the pretty big likelih
65 CptGirmayTesfa : Iberia used SDQ before their turn to MIA. They served destinations like San Jose, Panama, Managua with DC-9s, connecting to a DC-10 feeder from Madrid
66 Anxebla : Wil.... I bet you my left arm,IB is 10.000 times better than any velezuelan airline (for example Santa Bárbara airlines which they come to MAD with v
67 Anxebla : One thing more: Really are you interested in news about IB? What do you care IB? If,in the final, Iberia changes hub,SDQ is not eligible Candidates ai
68 CptGirmayTesfa : Why would SDQ not be eligible? San Jose is not a good hub as the weather conditions at SJO are too unpredictable and the terminal building is too smal
69 Flymia : I really really dont think IB wants to go to HAV. Why would a airline like that move a hub from MIA to HAV. It really does not matter the hub is not m
70 LH423 : Yyz717: SJU would be a great airport. Modern, decently sized, AA hub. But, as MAH4546 already said, SJU is American territory and therefore IB would b
71 Hugojimenez : "Groupo Taca acts as the national carrier of Honduras. They fly MIA-SAP, MIA-RTB, MIA-TGU, IAH-RTB, JFK-SAP, and MSY-SAP. There is also Honduran arili
72 Jfklganyc : Funny, nobody likes treating int'l visitors like criminals. To this, I will agree. Unfortunately, we lost thousands of innocent lives on 9/11 from int
73 RayChuang : I'm not sure if IB really wants to do something that could cost them many millions of Euros to implement. For example, where are they going to find a
74 Post contains links CaboVerde : SDQ is the best geographic airport and will get soon a total of 2 runways and a new Terminal B, Iberia was also shown on the Dominican Newspaper about
75 AA767400 : Too much political drama on this topic. And too much national pride. Leave the politics and patriotism aside, and focus on the topic. SJU? That will n
76 MAH4546 : Just one little comments about yours. Grupo Taca do not "acts as the national carrier of Honduras". Its Salvadorian. No, it is not. It is based in Sal
77 Hugojimenez : " No, it is not. It is based in Salvador, but is a multinational airline. It is the main airline carrier for El Salvador, Honduras, Guatemala, Nicurag
78 Mt99 : New Zealand gentleman The name of the gentleman was Lowell Yerex. Im pretty certain Salvadorean family owns at least 50% ofGrupo Taca with other majo
79 Anxebla : i BELIEVE CentralAmerica should BE only ONE country and not seven.... but this issue is out of Topic.
80 LatinAviation : Roberto Kriete, a Salvadorean citizen, owns Grupo Taca, who is also their Chairman. Federico Bloch is their CEO and President, though he recently took
81 WiLdmanVzla : To Anxebla: Have you been in Mars?... That's so great for you!!!!!!... of course, believing that is the same as believing that IB is a great airline..
82 MAH4546 : Belize has never been part of Grupo Taca. Please point out where I ever stated that. I know very well that they have never been part of Grupo Taca, wh
83 Mt99 : I also believe that Grupo Taca is the largest private employer in Central America
84 Hugojimenez : "Please point out where I ever stated that. I know very well that they have never been part of Grupo Taca, what I stated was that Grupo TACA acts as t
85 Wedgetail737 : I always wondered why IB continued with their connections in MIA, especially when they are an Oneworld member. AA could easily take up IB's slack for
86 MAH4546 : "Please point out where I ever stated that. I know very well that they have never been part of Grupo Taca, what I stated was that Grupo TACA acts as t
87 Hugojimenez : "No, it is not. It is based in Salvador, but is a multinational airline. It is the main airline carrier for El Salvador, Honduras, Guatemala, Nicuragu
88 EddieDude : Man, the moment postings like post number 87 are written, then I really lose interest in a thread. I think it is very interesting that a Spanish news
89 MIAMIx707 : LACSA still operates seperately, the others under Grupo TACA All I know is I haven't seen a plane wearing the Lacsa name in a looong time. Are there a
90 Post contains links and images MAH4546 : All I know is I haven't seen a plane wearing the Lacsa name in a looong time. Are there any left? Now the tails only say "TACA' no more Grupo Taca. Ta
91 Post contains images MIAMIx707 : yes I just saw some pics with the Lacsa name but someone got ahead of me trying to prove me wrong with pics and all good job dude!.. but the tails sti
92 Mt99 : I read in an aviation magazine about the TACA rebranding, the original idea was to eventually take off the TACA and LACSA titles infront.
93 Aer : Going back to the IB topic, an less TA, I think that MAD-HAV-GUA would be a great route, since Air Europa is starting an agreement (I'm still not sure
94 Anxebla : Aer: HAV need to improve very much like an airport for having a Hub.For the moment HAV is not eligible.
95 Anxebla : Wedgetail737: (to reply 85) I'm sure IB will not abandon any hub in Caribbean/CentralAmerica area.Why?because it's very profitable for IB.In addition,
96 B752fanatic : Tell you what, MAD-SJO is the best route that IB has conecting with MIA. We have 2 daily flights to SJO, and sometimes coming from MAD we have 105 pax
97 Anxebla : B752: In the past,IB did (sometimes) MAD-SJO non-stop with A340-300.But i think SJO is the only one destination in CentralAmerica that allow a non-sto
98 B752fanatic : Anxebla, Its not profitable to run a flight from MAD to MGA, PTY, GUA, SAP, SAL, Not only the fact that these airports an A340 going for a 9 to 10 hou
99 Iberia340600 : Anxebla: If memory serves me correct...the last time IB flew non-stop to SJO was about 2 years ago....I think it was 3 times a week and the rest were
100 Anxebla : B752: Which is the biggest aircraft that allow landing in GUA? Maybe you're right,but pax complains about US-customs are important too
101 Post contains images B752fanatic : I really dont know, but if it is slippery and wet accidents happen Remember that GUA has had many accidents like the Cubana Chartered by AOM, and also
102 Copa737 : B752fanatic, Do you think that a PTY-SJO-MAD route can work?? Iberia did some years ago PTY-SDQ-MAD flight with a DC-10. Regards, Copa737
103 B752fanatic : I dont think that Direct MAD-PTY, it would not work. I mean, daily of course. We do it daily with the A319 from MIA. It should stay that way. Works go
104 Hugojimenez : I can't remember that IB used a A340-300 between MAD-SJO, but coming the information from ANXEBLA it must be correct. I do remember, many years ago (b
105 Copa737 : KLM used to make the route PTY-SJO-AMS until 1998 I think. First with DC-10 and then with a MD-11. If Iberia wants to add a SJO-MAD they must hurry, b
106 Post contains images Fly727 : I have no idea what the final decision will be, but in the mean time, CUN is getting ready to become IB's hub. "Expansion" magazine (March 3rd) inform
107 B752fanatic : Air Madrid is no competition to IB. Remember Air Madrid will commence service with very few aircraft, I heard 2. And the traffic that IB has, about 50
108 Copa737 : Well, many people from Panama travel to Miami because its Miami (a great place for shopping, doing business, etc.) Also many people travel with IB bec
109 Aer : B752fanatic, according to Guatemalan news, was determined that CU's accident was not due to the runway, but because of the pilot's lack of knowledge o
110 Aer : Besides, GUA used to handle PA and KL's 747s just fine
111 MAH4546 : Besides, GUA used to handle PA and KL's 747s just fine They were not going non-stop to Europe. They were going to Mexico City and Miami. Less fuel, li
112 IBERIA747 : About GUA: The runway (01/19) length is 2,985 m (9,793 ft). Altitude: 1,509 m (4,952 ft). And yes, it has been rated category 2 by the FAA...slippery
113 Anxebla : Alfonso: IB flew to SJO non-stop from Madrid in high season.I'm sure of that.Like say 340600 was about 3 years ago o more.Estoy seguro de ello porque
114 IBERIA747 : The flights operated with the 767-300ER were only for the 1998 "high season". The return leg was a non-stop SJO-MAD, but the flight coming from Spain
115 IBERIA747 : Maybe those (A340-300 MAD-SJO nonstop) were different flights but I never heard of them. Maybe IB340600, B752fanatic or our friend Hugo from Costa Ric
116 Post contains images Anxebla : Alfonso... My brother did one leg (i can't remember well) SJO-MAD or MAD-SJO non-stop with A-340.The other one was with a stop in MIA,like usual-.Salu
117 Hugojimenez : My father in law, former pilot for Lacsa, remember IB A340 at the Juan Santamaria's Airport (you're right Anxebla) back in the lates 90's. Later on LT
118 Post contains images Anxebla : Hugo... My brother have told me he travelled in March'98 to SJO non-stop from MAD and came back via MIA 15 days later. BTW...he likes very much Costa
119 MAH4546 : Later on LTU used a A330... LTU's service to San Jose, Costa Rica stopped in Miami. Martinair Holland is currently the only European airline that flie
120 IBERIA747 : Amazing...I had no idea about those A343 flights. I went 4 times to Costa Rica during 2001 and 2002 and only saw the IB A319. BTW and speaking about t
121 Post contains images Anxebla : MAH4546.... Iberia is not an european airline?
122 Post contains images IBERIA747 : To support the possibility that IB will stay in MIA here´s something published on www.pilotosdeiberia.com in April 4th, 2002...It´s in Spanish so in
123 Hugojimenez : Alfonso "El tercer centro es el del aeropuerto de Miami. Iberia utiliza esta terminal como base para distribuir su tráfico de pasajeros hacia siete d
124 Hugojimenez : "Martinair Holland is currently the only European airline that flies to San Jose, and thier (sic) flights are also via Miami four times a week, and vi
125 IBERIA747 : Hugo: You´re absolutely right. I didn´t notice that SJO was not mentioned in the article...how could they forget? Anyway, things are clear now and w
126 Hugojimenez : Iberia747 So sad to hear that. But new "good winds" expect for Iberia sooner... Thanks for the information. Saludos and "enjoy your flight".
127 LJ : The point here is that we all can see the things that were being discussed 2 years ago with nothing happening after all. The "IB will move out of MIA"
128 IBERIA747 : LJ: I think it´s exactly the same thing.
129 Post contains links and images CRFLY : Hey I'm glad to see some costaricans here too... Great, "que vivan los ticos"... Iberia used to fly 767-300ER on a triangle schedule MAD/GUA/SJO/MAD t
130 Hugojimenez : Does anybody knows the origin to baptizes an a/c (e.g. IB Calderon de la Vega (747), Lope de Vega(another 747), Bardenas Reales(A319), Teresa de Avila
131 MAH4546 : Think Honduras or Nicaragua are the same... I'm positive about the traffic rights to MIA out of GUA, SJO, PTY and CUN... No, Honduras and Nicaragua al
132 Bullpitt : I've just read in our internal page in IB "quoting Europa press" that IB is actually in conversation with several Central American countries to shift
133 Prinair : Perhaps IB should just have a separate concourse or terminal section built at MIA to handle only IB flights. If they do so and prove to the US governm
134 Bartond : So back to the original topic - albeit weeks later - does Iberia plan to drastically reduce its MIA hub and branch out to another airport in Central A
135 MAH4546 : What are the reasons behind the potential move out of MIA? MIA's facilities or the US Customs problems for IB passengers? Nothing to do with MIA's fac
136 B752fanatic : Take a look at the situtation. This rumors about IB leaving MIA have been for more than 2 years. Since 9/11 Inmigrations have made it hard for foreign
137 Corpsnerd09 : I don't think IB will get rid of MIA as their mini-hub, the high volume of latin americans living in Miami make the non-stops to MGA, GUA, SAP, SJO, C
138 UAFAN17 : I dont think this wil happen becuase if IB wants to stay in ONEWORLD they will need to keep AA happy since AA and BA pretty much rule the roost. Plus,
139 Post contains images Anxebla : UAFAN,hahahahahaha....you're just very funny and teenager If IB wants leave the MIA's hub...they will leave it.NO doubts.It doesn't matter if AA are n
140 Pdpsol : UAFAN17, Uh... don't you think it's about time you return to your 'PC video games', or perhaps finish your homework? Your 'comments' regarding AA, BA
141 Iberia340600 : UAFAN17: Wow...do us a favor and stick to PC video games. FYI....AA has quite a large central america operation out of Miami...AA does not NEED IB in
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