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User currently offlineFA4UA From United States of America, joined Nov 2003, 812 posts, RR: 20
Posted (10 years 6 months 3 weeks 21 hours ago) and read 3925 times:

Hello all you Non-Rev Jet Setters...

So my non-airline friends have decided that I need to take them to HKG or Tokyo this June. I immediately cringed at the thought of flying anywhere standby during the summer but I thought I'd get others opinions.

I'm a seasoned NonRev flyer but I've never gone to HKG or Narita standby (just on business). I checked all the loads for some random dates in June and tried to do a trend analysis from SFO to either city, but I can't find any rhythm or rhyme to the loads! One flight will have 100 booked in Y and another will show 50. First and Business class are consistent across the board for all the flight loads. What's up?? Are these cities very popular summer destinations for Americans to visit? How big a deal is typhoon season anyway??

Also, should I just write off HKG since we (UA) only have once daily to SFO and once daily to ORD compared to all the traffic in and out of Narita?? I'd rather not have to connect HKG-Narita-SFO/LAX.

Any advice? Is it worth going for? Granted both cities are fantastic, but that's not my concern. I just want to make sure we all get there and back!

thanks!
FA4UA


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User currently offlineN276AASTT From US Virgin Islands, joined Jan 2004, 620 posts, RR: 0
Reply 1, posted (10 years 6 months 3 weeks 12 hours ago) and read 3828 times:

I have done the roundtrip on an AA MD-11 to Narita twice. Both times I've had no problems getting on either flights. It's true, it all depends on what day of the week your looking at and also what time of year. Both are variables that will affect your chances. Not sure what could be going on in June. Live dangerously! What the hell, if you get stuck, then it was meant to be. Just do it and see what happens. Tokyo has a lot of history and technology. Hong Kong is exotic. It's your choice.


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User currently offlineRamprat74 From United States of America, joined Dec 2003, 1537 posts, RR: 2
Reply 2, posted (10 years 6 months 3 weeks 12 hours ago) and read 3813 times:

Your first mistake is checking loads four months ahead of time. I don't bother checking until two weeks prior. It won't be easy to fly to NRT or HKG in the summer. I flew to BKK and NRT before. It was in the spring though. I flew on the SEA-NRT flight. This is when it first started and was a 747-400. I had no problems. My co-worker flies to BKK every six months. He usually goes through SFO now. The SEA flight seems to be full more often now.

User currently offlineFA4UA From United States of America, joined Nov 2003, 812 posts, RR: 20
Reply 3, posted (10 years 6 months 3 weeks 10 hours ago) and read 3769 times:

Thanks for the tips guys! I know it's pretty futile to check loads this ahead of my travel date, but I thought I could try looking for booking trends and study which days are better then others. So far Fridays (weird) look like the best days to get to either HKG or NRT.

We'll see!

N276AASTT, you're right! If it looks like we can do it, we should! Screw it! If we get bumped it will make the experience even more memoriable!

FA4UA



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User currently offlineWmupilot From United States of America, joined Jan 2003, 1473 posts, RR: 12
Reply 4, posted (10 years 6 months 3 weeks 8 hours ago) and read 3733 times:

On that note...we (ATA) just entered a ZED agreement with Qantas. I was wondering how easy is it to get to SYD from LAX on any carrier. Mainly looking for input from UA personel as you guys fly the route. I'm looking at going sometime during the summer. It's standby but it only costs about $200 with the ZED agreement, better than $600 with an ID90.


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User currently offlineWilco From United States of America, joined Mar 2004, 355 posts, RR: 1
Reply 5, posted (10 years 6 months 3 weeks 1 hour ago) and read 3664 times:

FA4UA... be careful relying simply on passenger loads as those routes tend to be subject to weight restrictions. (i.e. there might be 55 open seats but no nonrevs are accomodated due to heavy cargo). It does happen.


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User currently offlineFA4UA From United States of America, joined Nov 2003, 812 posts, RR: 20
Reply 6, posted (10 years 6 months 3 weeks ago) and read 3644 times:

The loads to SYD are always a mess unless you go in late September or early May.


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User currently offlineM404 From United States of America, joined Nov 2003, 2226 posts, RR: 5
Reply 7, posted (10 years 6 months 3 weeks ago) and read 3634 times:
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I'm just curious but how are your "non-airline" friends tickets being written? Are they companion passes? What discounts are they able to get? I have friends ask the same questions (Rome and London)


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User currently offlineFA4UA From United States of America, joined Nov 2003, 812 posts, RR: 20
Reply 8, posted (10 years 6 months 3 weeks ago) and read 3631 times:

M404, yes, they're my companion passes which are ID-90's. At UA we get 24 of them a year good for 24 flight segments (not roundtrips) for friends or extended family.

FA4UA



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User currently offlineArtsyman From United States of America, joined Feb 2001, 4745 posts, RR: 33
Reply 9, posted (10 years 6 months 3 weeks ago) and read 3624 times:

I made to HKG and back without getting bumped when I tried, but I really need to agree with the poster above who mentioned the cargo issue. I know a few people that also showed up with 40 empty seats to find out about the cargo bumping them. Therefore, when you plan to go, call cargo and ask them what their loads are looking like, they will tell you.

J


User currently offlineFutureFO From Ireland, joined Oct 2001, 3132 posts, RR: 21
Reply 10, posted (10 years 6 months 2 weeks 6 days 10 hours ago) and read 3548 times:

That is why it is always better to travel during the offpeak seasons. I would wait and check the loads and the cargo manifests within about 1-2 weeks before you travel. I made to HKG with no problems but almopst got bumped coming out of HKG. I would say that getting into and out of NRT is easier or KIX. The UA loads from SFO-KIX were really great we got F out and C coming back.



Sean from MCO



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User currently offlineKaiTakFan From United States of America, joined Oct 1999, 1588 posts, RR: 6
Reply 11, posted (10 years 6 months 2 weeks 6 days 2 hours ago) and read 3477 times:

"The loads to SYD are always a mess unless you go in late September or early May"

Yeah most of the time they are! Lucky me, my flight on UA 863 this WED is staying very solid with available seats in BIZ and Y!

Now I have done alot of Non rev to Asia on UA in the past few years. It was easy to get to NRT in the late 90's during the recession. Now things have changed. There is never a good trend on Asian flights. TUE and WED have always been the good non rev days for most routes. That is usually not the case going across the Pacific. Some times you may luck out and find a time slot that works well. But having the excess baggage of a few Companions on some of the most volitile flights in the United network, is risky business. Good luck to you though!

Cheers!


User currently offlineLutfi From China, joined Sep 2000, 775 posts, RR: 0
Reply 12, posted (10 years 6 months 2 weeks 6 days ago) and read 3436 times:

Alot of US colleges have graduation in June AFAIK?

Therefore lots of proud parents coming from HK for the ceremonies... good luck!


User currently offlineSnoopy From Switzerland, joined Oct 2001, 370 posts, RR: 0
Reply 13, posted (10 years 6 months 2 weeks 6 days ago) and read 3425 times:

Whether or not you get on or not, make sure you bring a good rain jacket!! June is rainy season in Japan and over the past few years we have also been treated to a couple of early pre-season typhoons (generally expected in September)..... When it's not raining it's fairly humid.


User currently offlineFA4UA From United States of America, joined Nov 2003, 812 posts, RR: 20
Reply 14, posted (10 years 6 months 2 weeks 5 days 23 hours ago) and read 3411 times:

Thanks for all the suggestions, opinions and stories! I appreciate it and will probably end up flipping a coin the first week of June whether to go or not. My non-airline friends have been briefed that this trip might not end when we originally planned, but they're all willing to try it! They obviously have never been bumped before! ha!

Snoopy: is Tokyo a well air conditioned city in general? Being such a modern city, I would think it is. But as modern and wealthy a city London is, hardly anything is air conditioned there!

many thanks
FA4UA



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User currently offlineArtsyman From United States of America, joined Feb 2001, 4745 posts, RR: 33
Reply 15, posted (10 years 6 months 2 weeks 5 days 23 hours ago) and read 3393 times:

If you are not set on HKG, I would say that I recommend NRT much higher in general. I think Tokyo and Japan in general is more interesting. While I have only been to Hong Kong Once, I have no real desire to go again, but with Tokyo, I have been a few times, and every time I leave I think to myself that I didn't get enough time there...

J


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