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CX To Launch HKG-JFK Nonstop  
User currently offlineConcordeBoy From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Posted (10 years 7 months 2 weeks 3 days 19 hours ago) and read 9001 times:

...took them long enough. Flights begin June1

Flights will be operated by those A346 thingies.


CX822 HKG 1015 JFK 1405
CX823 JFK 1550 HKG 2010+1


The currently existing HKG-YVR-JFK will remain as is.





[Edited 2004-03-08 21:33:41]

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User currently offlineSR 103 From United States of America, joined Sep 2000, 1740 posts, RR: 39
Reply 1, posted (10 years 7 months 2 weeks 3 days 19 hours ago) and read 8888 times:

Finally. They really did take their sweet time. Good to hear.

Flights will be operated by those A346 thingies.

Well thats better than those 744 thingies!  Smile

SR 103


User currently offlineGigneil From United States of America, joined Nov 2002, 16347 posts, RR: 85
Reply 2, posted (10 years 7 months 2 weeks 3 days 18 hours ago) and read 8806 times:

Hmm, so I guess they must not perform all that badly, eh CB?

 Smile/happy/getting dizzy

N


User currently offlineCRFLY From Costa Rica, joined Jan 2004, 197 posts, RR: 1
Reply 3, posted (10 years 7 months 2 weeks 3 days 18 hours ago) and read 8793 times:

Congratulations to CX, that flight was urgently needed!!! Now we'd have OneWorld non-stop to Hong Kong out of ORD (AA) and JFK (CX)!!!


With Age comes Wisdom...
User currently offlineA330marcus From Canada, joined Nov 2003, 31 posts, RR: 0
Reply 4, posted (10 years 7 months 2 weeks 3 days 18 hours ago) and read 8722 times:

I wonder how this would affect CO's EWR-HKG route. Fare war? Different customer base?

User currently offlineCarfield From United States of America, joined Dec 2003, 1934 posts, RR: 8
Reply 5, posted (10 years 7 months 2 weeks 3 days 18 hours ago) and read 8635 times:

Thanks for the great news!

When is the flight going to be put for sales?

Carfield


User currently offlineAsianguy767 From Singapore, joined Oct 2003, 263 posts, RR: 0
Reply 6, posted (10 years 7 months 2 weeks 3 days 18 hours ago) and read 8606 times:

Wow, so CX will be the only airline with round the world service once it gets it LHR-JFK services started huh? way 2 go!

User currently offlineConcordeBoy From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 7, posted (10 years 7 months 2 weeks 3 days 18 hours ago) and read 8592 times:

once it gets it LHR-JFK services started huh?

you mean *if* it gets started.... and that's certainly going to be a big "if" for the EC.


User currently offlineFoxBravo From United States of America, joined Nov 2003, 3000 posts, RR: 4
Reply 8, posted (10 years 7 months 2 weeks 3 days 18 hours ago) and read 8500 times:

I agree, it's about time--this was long overdue. Looks like they're counting on mainly O&D traffic, though...the flight times are great for that, but not so good for connecting beyond HKG. The late arrival in HKG allows for only a few connections, and the departure from HKG is too early. Maybe they are counting on AA feed through JFK, although I would rather have had one-stop access to more cities in SE Asia. Still, it's good to hear that they're adding service.


Common sense is not so common. -Voltaire
User currently offlineScottysAir From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 9, posted (10 years 7 months 2 weeks 3 days 18 hours ago) and read 8439 times:

That is good news for CX is begun nonstop from JFK to HKG and after UA was used with their flight to HKG before. It would make continues to HKG flight with the stop in YVR.

User currently offlineSsides From United States of America, joined Feb 2001, 4059 posts, RR: 21
Reply 10, posted (10 years 7 months 2 weeks 3 days 18 hours ago) and read 8412 times:

Congratulations to CX, that flight was urgently needed!!! Now we'd have OneWorld non-stop to Hong Kong out of ORD (AA) and JFK (CX)!!!

ORD does not have oneworld non-stop service to HKG.



"Lose" is not spelled with two o's!!!!
User currently offlineKaitak From Ireland, joined Aug 1999, 12515 posts, RR: 35
Reply 11, posted (10 years 7 months 2 weeks 3 days 18 hours ago) and read 8373 times:

Great news - and long awaited!

Wonder if they'll be getting more A340-600s, or will they take them off the SYD route? (Hope not!)



User currently offlineWorldwide From United States of America, joined Nov 2003, 35 posts, RR: 0
Reply 12, posted (10 years 7 months 2 weeks 3 days 17 hours ago) and read 8276 times:

Hello. I can't find anything about this new non-stop service on the Cathay Pacific website. Could someone please link the press release or submit the source of this information. Thank you.

User currently offlineCathay Pacific From Australia, joined May 2000, 1864 posts, RR: 1
Reply 13, posted (10 years 7 months 2 weeks 3 days 17 hours ago) and read 8212 times:

What are your sources?


cathay pacific, now you're really flying
User currently offlineSFOintern From United States of America, joined Oct 2001, 770 posts, RR: 5
Reply 14, posted (10 years 7 months 2 weeks 3 days 17 hours ago) and read 8181 times:

I thought Cathay had this for a little bit but pulled it. United Airlines surely had it two years ago for a few months. There were even articles in the New York Times about it!

I can't wait for the fare wars to begin between Cathay and Continental. Let's get United back in the mix, so we can have a party (that's good for the consumer)!


User currently offlineRjpieces From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 15, posted (10 years 7 months 2 weeks 3 days 16 hours ago) and read 8130 times:

Will it be just for the summer? Also, does anyone know what load penaltiies there might be?

User currently offlineConcordeBoy From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 16, posted (10 years 7 months 2 weeks 3 days 15 hours ago) and read 8005 times:

Wonder if they'll be getting more A340-600s

At this point, they're not even sure they're going to renew the leason on the ones they currently have, let alone burden themselves with more of them.


Will it be just for the summer?

no


Also, does anyone know what load penaltiies there might be?

Shouldnt be too too bad. A346 doesnt have as much range as 772ER, but still a good bit more than the 744s that have done this routing.... not that they're good examples to follow  Smile

That, and Kennedy has a significantly longer runway than Liberty, which helps.


User currently offlineContinentalEWR From United States of America, joined May 2000, 3762 posts, RR: 13
Reply 17, posted (10 years 7 months 2 weeks 3 days 14 hours ago) and read 7857 times:

American does not fly ORD-HKG. No OneWorld Airline does. Only UA.

This is a big yawn. Continental has been doing it for three years now and UA had a brief, nonstop from April to August 2001.

ContinentalEWR


User currently offlineFLYGUY1 From United States of America, joined Jun 1999, 1739 posts, RR: 4
Reply 18, posted (10 years 7 months 2 weeks 3 days 14 hours ago) and read 7808 times:

This is still a significant flight, as CO are the only other airline operating this route currently. Things are looking really good in terms of new flights at JFK this summer.


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User currently offlineConcordeBoy From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 19, posted (10 years 7 months 2 weeks 3 days 14 hours ago) and read 7791 times:

Be interesting to see if CO launches any competitive incentives around that time... particularly since I want so badly to visit HKG, and they're just about my only nonstop option there from the USA.


User currently offlineSIMPLICITY From Hong Kong, joined Jan 2004, 136 posts, RR: 0
Reply 20, posted (10 years 7 months 2 weeks 3 days 13 hours ago) and read 7702 times:

ConcordeBoy,
I am pretty sure the a.net locals with give you a warm welcome  Big thumbs up

Great news for CX, as NY do hold a strong customer base to support the service, and I hope they will annouce the LHR-JFK route as soon as possible, that will help CX to enchance the position around the world a s a global airline, and more 'supporters' will soon be follow  Big thumbs up


User currently offlineCol From Malaysia, joined Nov 2003, 2122 posts, RR: 22
Reply 21, posted (10 years 7 months 2 weeks 3 days 13 hours ago) and read 7653 times:

Good news,

But one thing to note is that it suddenly came when SQ offered their own route NY-SIN direct - coincidence?

Noted on UA Feb figures that Asian flights are growing heavily, more 744 replacing the 777 soon, won't miss the 2-5-2.


User currently offlineSFOintern From United States of America, joined Oct 2001, 770 posts, RR: 5
Reply 22, posted (10 years 7 months 2 weeks 3 days 13 hours ago) and read 7619 times:

Is CX planning to do a JFK-LHR?

User currently offlineAlexchao From United States of America, joined Aug 2001, 688 posts, RR: 0
Reply 23, posted (10 years 7 months 2 weeks 3 days 12 hours ago) and read 7559 times:

HKG-JFK is good news for oneworld frequent flyers who have always need to stop in Vancouver.

Since the JFK route will be served by the A346, I'm guessing we won't see them here at LAX anymore?

Also, will the flights be daily?

-alexchao


User currently offlineCjuniel From United States of America, joined Dec 2003, 146 posts, RR: 1
Reply 24, posted (10 years 7 months 2 weeks 3 days 12 hours ago) and read 7495 times:

Yeah I was wondering if I was sniffing glue when I read that Oneworld had HKG service from O'Hare. American would kill to offer that service, but when and IF it is ever offered they better be prepared for a major battle with UA. Regarding the CX LHR-JFK routing, again, I honestly dont see it happening. Can you imagine the dogfight started - especially by Delta. Bermuda II allows for four carriers to offer service from Heathrow to the US. I think Cathay would be allowed to code share on AA or BA from Heathrow but I dont see them gaining direct access on that route without a major overhaul to Bermuda II. And I dont see that happening anytime in the near future. Just one mans opinion.

25 Lutfi : Bermuda II only applies to US/UK airlines. Not 5th freedom (AI, Kuwait, or CX) US has already given HK airlines the 5th freedom rights required (in re
26 Asianguy767 : CX has received rights to fly beyond LHR to JFK in exchange for Virgin to fly beyond HKG to SYD, however no plans on when this service starts.
27 Asianguy767 : CX has received rights to fly beyond LHR to JFK in exchange for Virgin to fly beyond HKG to SYD, however no news on when this service starts.
28 Calvin99 : From Asianguy767 CX has received rights to fly beyond LHR to JFK in exchange for Virgin to fly beyond HKG to SYD, however no news on when this service
29 Amirs : Wow, so CX will be the only airline with round the world service once it gets it LHR-JFK services started huh It looks like Singapore has better chan
30 BOEING747400 : How does HKG-JFK-HKG compare with SIN-LAX-SIN distance-wise? BKK-JFK-BKK would be an extremely long route as well. Thai Airways should have BKK-JFK-BK
31 SFOintern : I thought UAL had a round-the-world nonstop. Or, did it get vanquished when the LAX-HKG route get cancelled. I thought it went something like LAX-HKG-
32 Buckfifty : I'd like to know the source of this info too.
33 FoxBravo : UA did have a RTW flight, flights 1 and 2 (depending on the direction). I think it went via EWR and later IAD (not ORD). It ended when they suspended
34 AvioGuy : SQ's route woke CX up eh....about time they did this.
35 CX773 : i think CX hasn't announced HKG-JFK flight yet but CX is working on the flight plan right now using A346 and flying via Polar if the radiation level i
36 Gigneil : ...CO flies it every day via the Polar route. Should be no problem. N
37 ConcordeBoy : American would kill to offer that service AA already has the rights to offer the service, but 1) wanted enhanced cooperative authority with CX before
38 Tjwgrr : "i think CX hasn't announced HKG-JFK flight yet but CX is working on the flight plan right now using A346 and flying via Polar if the radiation level
39 CX773 : as far as i know, there're 8 levels of radiation. from what CX says, if the radiation is less than 3, it'll fly via polar, if higher than 3, re-routin
40 Rjpieces : What is this whole radiaton thing? Could somebody explain please?
41 N949WP : It looks like Singapore has better chances to beat CX's tiltle as only airline with round world service, as soon as it starts its NYC - SIN, nonstop i
42 Carfield : First off, I am still waiting for the offical press release... can't wait because I want to get some award seats before they will be all gone soon. As
43 CX773 : Polar radiation does affect flights. I'm sure not every single CO flight to HKG uses polar route or v.v. CX HKG-JFK flight has already announced today
44 COEWRNJ : I thought that when UA did the Nonstop JFK-HKG flight CX was to start one too. I remember getting a flyer in the mail about the new service. I guess i
45 Gigneil : UA's flight tried to hoist a whole 747-400 over the pole. If I'm not mistaken, they had to block over 100 seats per flight. CX took a good hard look a
46 Klyk1980 : PERSONALLY, even SQ starts their SIN-JFK service and with connection in JFK to AMS/FRA for SIN Bound, because they don't have transcontinental flight
47 ConcordeBoy : I'm sure not every single CO flight to HKG uses polar route or v.v Well, they chose to divert rather than use the poles during the recent solar flares
48 Airbazar : SQ will likely beat CX to a RTW route, depending on what route they take from SIN to EWR. If like CX, the flight path goes over Eastern China rather t
49 Singapore_Air : Unfortunately, Singapore Airlines Limited will discontinue the AMS - EWR segment. However, we could go by: Singapore - New York Area - Frankfurt - Sin
50 Rjpieces : Aren't they switching the JFK-FRA flight to JFK-AMS?
51 Horus : I don't think they are
52 RiverVisualNYC : Part of the significance of this is that CX is HKG's hometown airline, offering connections on from HKG to many points in Asia. While CO has already b
53 ConcordeBoy : Aren't they switching the JFK-FRA flight to JFK-AMS? Nope
54 Big777jet : Actually, American has right to serve ORD-HKG. In fact AA is actually pretty much certain it will serve this route next year, when it gets a few more
55 CX773 : CX did fly HKG-JFK-HKG before by using 744. Due to heavy payload problem, it stopped. Well, they chose to divert rather than use the poles during the
56 Artsyman : I don't know if CO has any payload problem for EWR-HKG. ( no tech stop but carry limited passengers) **** I just had a look, the flight takes an extre
57 CX773 : 48/235 = 283 seats in total. if only 3 or 10 pax couldn't get on the flight, then 772ER wasn't too bad even though no cargo could be carried. sometime
58 ConcordeBoy : even though no cargo could be carried IINM, the westbound is restricted due to payload difficulties whereas the eastbound is restricted due to a small
59 ScottysAir : Big777jet, This is old news about AA want rights served to HKG from few years ago and did not do it for them.
60 Flying Belgian : My question is: Why did Cathay wait so long to deploy the 340-600 on Trans-Pacific services ? Thx for answers !!! FB.
61 Gigneil : Why did Cathay wait so long to deploy the 340-600 on Trans-Pacific services? SARS. N
62 ConcordeBoy : That, and the A346s were put to LAX to assist CX when the fuel retainment restrictions were first placed on 744s.
63 AA623BDLSJU : Awesome, awesome news for CX. I can't wait to start checking out the fares between CX and CO. I wonder how long will it take AA to start codeshare on
64 Post contains images Stefandotde : Concordeboy: "...have, let alone burden themselves with more of them." Hehehe, Concordeboy, they buy the 340-400 - if you like it or not! Is there ano
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