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Air Canada To Double Montreal-Europe Capacity  
User currently offlineFLYYUL From Italy, joined Jun 2000, 5010 posts, RR: 51
Posted (10 years 9 months 2 weeks 2 days ago) and read 5153 times:

Most members already know this.. but here is the official release  Big thumbs up

http://micro.newswire.ca/release.cgi?rkey=1203119213&view=13213-0&Start=0

"Air Canada Increases Non-stop Flights between Montreal and Europe by 50 per cent, Introduces Double Daily Service to Paris, London and Frankfurt this Summer
MONTREAL, March 11 /CNW Telbec/ - Air Canada today announced that in
response to peak summer travel demand, the carrier will launch double daily
non-stop flights from Montréal to both London and Frankfurt this year, and
re-introduce its popular twice daily non-stop flights to Paris. With the
introduction of these new double daily services, Air Canada will increase by
50 per cent the number of flights operating this summer between Montréal and
three of Europe's largest gateway cities. In addition, Air Canada will offer
non-stop flights from Montreal to Vienna and Munich this summer on a codeshare
basis with its Star Alliance partners.
Air Canada will introduce second daily non-stop flights to London on
June 1, 2004, to Paris on June 23 and to Frankfurt on July 1, in addition to
its year round daily non-stop services. The second daily flights will operate
during the peak summer period. All flights will be operated using Boeing 767
aircraft in a two cabin configuration. Air Canada offers a choice of
Hospitality and Executive First premium service on all three routes.
"This is great news for consumers seeking convenient, direct access via
Montréal to Europe from the many communities Air Canada and Air Canada Jazz
serve across Quebec, Atlantic Canada and the north eastern United States,"
said Bill Bredt, Vice President, Network and Revenue Management. "With more
then 50 non-stop flights per week from Montréal to five major European
gateways this summer, Air Canada offers unbeatable choice and value direct to
Europe and points beyond throughout the Star Alliance network."
Air Canada's codeshare flights from Montréal non-stop to Vienna will
begin March 31 operated by Austrian Airlines four times weekly, and its non-
stop flights to Munich will begin June 8 operated by Lufthansa six times
weekly. These codeshare flights offer Aeroplan members the usual Star Alliance
benefits including accumulation of Aeroplan Miles that count toward top tier
status. In total, Air Canada will offer customers up to 52 non-stop flights
per week this summer from Montréal to five European gateway cities."

Mark


35 replies: All unread, showing first 25:
 
User currently offlineCessnapimp From Canada, joined Oct 2001, 1320 posts, RR: 19
Reply 1, posted (10 years 9 months 2 weeks 2 days ago) and read 5115 times:


Pfff... that's not funny !!?


... but very very good news! I hope to do quite of bit of ops out of YUL this summer  Big thumbs up


User currently offlineFLYYUL From Italy, joined Jun 2000, 5010 posts, RR: 51
Reply 2, posted (10 years 9 months 2 weeks 2 days ago) and read 5085 times:

Greg,

You'll be flying the 763... they took all our 333/74's away from us Embarrassment


User currently offlineCessnapimp From Canada, joined Oct 2001, 1320 posts, RR: 19
Reply 3, posted (10 years 9 months 2 weeks 2 days ago) and read 5069 times:


The 762 is my fav ride. Best designed "kitchen" in the back. The 763 has all four bathrooms in the back and that stupid half galley that you never know what's in it in the middle... urgh... but still a great ride! The 333 cracks too much on rotation (doors, panels), but I must admit much more comfy for the pax... but not a "man's plane".


User currently offlinePolaris From Canada, joined Feb 2000, 1150 posts, RR: 1
Reply 4, posted (10 years 9 months 2 weeks 1 day 23 hours ago) and read 5050 times:

Just posted a similar topic; hadn't seen this one.

I mentioned Air Canada's strategy of making Montreal a mini-hub plus offering frequency of service rather than size of aircraft.


User currently offlineCaptaingomes From Canada, joined Feb 2001, 6413 posts, RR: 55
Reply 5, posted (10 years 9 months 2 weeks 1 day 23 hours ago) and read 4988 times:

Very misleading Mark, you should go into journalism. Topic heading should read ...

"Air Canada To Double Montreal_Europe Frequency".

Big difference between CAPACITY and FREQUENCY! It just means you'll get less really big planes in YUL and more sort of big planes. Just thought I'd pass that along.  Big grin



"it's kind of like an Airbus, it's an engineering marvel, but there's no sense of passion" -- J. Clarkson re: Coxster
User currently offlineScf158 From Switzerland, joined Dec 2003, 413 posts, RR: 0
Reply 6, posted (10 years 9 months 2 weeks 1 day 22 hours ago) and read 4941 times:

Where are all these bloody planes coming from?

User currently offlineMartinairYYZ From Canada, joined Nov 2003, 1209 posts, RR: 7
Reply 7, posted (10 years 9 months 2 weeks 1 day 22 hours ago) and read 4919 times:

they took all our 333/74's away from us

The better ones are coming to the YYZ-Spot!!  Big grin

Where are all these bloody planes coming from?

Air Canada is just rotating them and using them more frequently. Even though they actually own less that 10 (correct me if i'm wrong?) They lease many.



Chelsea Football Club supporter.
User currently offlineYHU From Canada, joined Jun 2000, 429 posts, RR: 1
Reply 8, posted (10 years 9 months 2 weeks 1 day 22 hours ago) and read 4900 times:

This just kind of follows on what Neil said long ago that a lot of AC's expansion will be based on increased frequencies to current distinations. This, instead of adding new destinations. Although, I think at the time he was speaking of YYZ, it seems that this is applying to YUL-Europe this summer.



User currently offlineFLYYUL From Italy, joined Jun 2000, 5010 posts, RR: 51
Reply 9, posted (10 years 9 months 2 weeks 1 day 22 hours ago) and read 4875 times:

Your right.. but thats the AC headline my friend

Where as YUL had about 1035 seats to Europe on a daily basis, YUL will have about 1290, which is up 20% or so.

Mark


User currently offlineCaptaingomes From Canada, joined Feb 2001, 6413 posts, RR: 55
Reply 10, posted (10 years 9 months 2 weeks 1 day 21 hours ago) and read 4837 times:

Mark, I guess it suggests that Air Canada is doing YUL glossing of their own! Regardless, good news, frequency is more important anyways. I'd rather see a route with 2 767's than 1 A330.


"it's kind of like an Airbus, it's an engineering marvel, but there's no sense of passion" -- J. Clarkson re: Coxster
User currently offlineYyz717 From Canada, joined Sep 2001, 16367 posts, RR: 56
Reply 11, posted (10 years 9 months 2 weeks 1 day 21 hours ago) and read 4805 times:

This is totally misleading.

YUL-CDG is reducing capacity from last summers 333/763 double daily to this summer's 763/762.

YUL-LHR replaces a daily 333 with 2 763's.

YUL-FRA replaces a daily 74E with 2 763's.

6 daily 763's. Yawn.  Smile




Panam, TWA, Ansett, Eastern.......AC next? Might be good for Canada.
User currently offlineFLYYUL From Italy, joined Jun 2000, 5010 posts, RR: 51
Reply 12, posted (10 years 9 months 2 weeks 1 day 21 hours ago) and read 4764 times:

Bah.. its the intent behind Neil that counts  Big thumbs up

Contrary to your belief, AC is setting up YUL as a secondary hub, and have frequencies timed to relevant connecting banks.

And im bored of the A333 anyway.. we've seen it since 1999  Big thumbs up give us some 763's  Big grin

Mark





User currently offlineCaptaingomes From Canada, joined Feb 2001, 6413 posts, RR: 55
Reply 13, posted (10 years 9 months 2 weeks 1 day 21 hours ago) and read 4746 times:

Just three European destinations out of YUL? Pleeeeeeeease!  Big grin


"it's kind of like an Airbus, it's an engineering marvel, but there's no sense of passion" -- J. Clarkson re: Coxster
User currently offlineAviationman From Canada, joined Dec 1999, 634 posts, RR: 0
Reply 14, posted (10 years 9 months 2 weeks 1 day 21 hours ago) and read 4704 times:

"Just three European destinations out of YUL?"

You are right Nuno. I remember the days when AC was operating flights from YMX/YUL to LIS, MAD, NCE, ZRH, TLV....and I missed a few I am sure. Three destinations only? As I keep asking........What happened? Where did all the pax to ZRH, NCE, etc....go?


User currently offlineFLYYUL From Italy, joined Jun 2000, 5010 posts, RR: 51
Reply 15, posted (10 years 9 months 2 weeks 1 day 21 hours ago) and read 4703 times:

5.. VIE and MUC if you cant STAR partners  Big thumbs up



User currently offlineYyz717 From Canada, joined Sep 2001, 16367 posts, RR: 56
Reply 16, posted (10 years 9 months 2 weeks 1 day 20 hours ago) and read 4687 times:

Contrary to your belief, AC is setting up YUL as a secondary hub, and have frequencies timed to relevant connecting banks.

YUL always was a hub. So is YHZ, YWG, YYC, YVR etc. A hub is constituted when any 2 flights connect.

YUL is actually a third hub for AC....after YYZ and YVR.



Panam, TWA, Ansett, Eastern.......AC next? Might be good for Canada.
User currently offlineFLYYUL From Italy, joined Jun 2000, 5010 posts, RR: 51
Reply 17, posted (10 years 9 months 2 weeks 1 day 20 hours ago) and read 4651 times:

In terms of departures and arrivals, YUL is number 2 for AC... only slightly behind in terms of capacity.

Mark


User currently offlineAwschucksflyer From Canada, joined Nov 2003, 150 posts, RR: 0
Reply 18, posted (10 years 9 months 2 weeks 1 day 20 hours ago) and read 4650 times:

Hey hey, don't forget YOW as a HUB....well at least if you are going to LHR! LOL.

User currently offlineAviationman From Canada, joined Dec 1999, 634 posts, RR: 0
Reply 19, posted (10 years 9 months 2 weeks 1 day 20 hours ago) and read 4596 times:

# 2 to Europe......maybe.

User currently offlineAviationman From Canada, joined Dec 1999, 634 posts, RR: 0
Reply 20, posted (10 years 9 months 2 weeks 1 day 20 hours ago) and read 4589 times:

Based on Neil's theory, YVR offering connections to Asia, Europe, Central America, USA and Canada.....YUL is way behind. Sad!

User currently offlineYOW From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 21, posted (10 years 9 months 2 weeks 1 day 18 hours ago) and read 4517 times:

That's right, based on Neil's definition, YOW is a hub for AC. We have at least 30 different connection possibilites a day... in the 100s if anyone from YYZ were ever to connect through YOW. Actually, most days 10-15 YYZers connect to our 7F YOW-YFB flights. See were an interline hub and the southern hub for Nunavut! Big grin Can't forget YEG in the hub mix either.  Laugh out loud

Andrew

http://groups.yahoo.com/group/cyowspotters/


User currently offlineYyz717 From Canada, joined Sep 2001, 16367 posts, RR: 56
Reply 22, posted (10 years 9 months 2 weeks 1 day 13 hours ago) and read 4384 times:

YUL is number 2 for AC... only slightly behind in terms of capacity.

In terms of pax count, YUL is now 4th behind YYC among all airlines.




Panam, TWA, Ansett, Eastern.......AC next? Might be good for Canada.
User currently offlineRindt From Germany, joined May 2000, 930 posts, RR: 13
Reply 23, posted (10 years 9 months 2 weeks 1 day 11 hours ago) and read 4358 times:

Can't wait to see what numbers Mark finds to prove that YUL is the #2 airport of Canada  Big grin

Just like the post about LIM-YVR/YYZ service. Since YUL won't see a piece of that action, it all of a sudden becomes a "poor decision". Hilarious.

-Rob



What other people think of you is none of your business!
User currently offlineMozart From Luxembourg, joined Aug 2003, 2238 posts, RR: 13
Reply 24, posted (10 years 9 months 2 weeks 1 day 10 hours ago) and read 4325 times:

The first non-Canadian to contribute to this thread...  Big grin

Just two questions:

1) what is the latest rumour on the YUL-BEY service? Will AC do it?
2) if AC is to shift all of those 333s and 74Es to YYZ, where will they fly to from YYZ?


25 Cessnapimp : To answer the first question, if AC had our governement's blessing, they would start service shortly I believe. But that is not the case and after tr
26 Post contains images FLYYUL : Hey Rindt. I hope you wont cry next time you go to Toronto..... No doubt one of the funniest things ive heard "Just like the post about LIM-YVR/YYZ se
27 Yyz717 : If you think AC flies more planes and more seats into YVR, go ahead and disprove me. Mark, what's your point? You're arguing over which Cdn city is th
28 FLYYUL : Year 2003 puts YVR at around 13.5 mil, and YUL/YMX at 9mil.. the disparity is not so huge, and with YMX transferring into YUL, projections from transp
29 Aviationman : Mark/Neil, correct me if I am wrong but I thought I read somewhere: Large demand from Asia to South America.....Therefore YVR would be the best hub fo
30 FLYYUL : A YVR-LIM flight would require a 763. And your gonna operate a 763 solely on connex pax with little to no local demand? You can argue that many to do
31 YVR1968 : 2003 figures: YVR 14,321,504 (down 3.7% on the year primarily due to the Asian SARS exposure) The Asian sector is expected to be the one of the fastes
32 Yyz717 : Year 2003 puts YVR at around 13.5 mil, and YUL/YMX at 9mil.. the disparity is not so huge That's a 50% difference! Quite huge actually. projections fr
33 Aviationman : 2003 figures are available for YUL. 7,9 million pax throughYUL in 2003(excluding YMX). An increase of 1.3%. Which would bring pax traffic to close to
34 Post contains images Aviationman : Neil, not so sure about the poor Quebec economy! Which Toronto newpaper is influencing you?
35 YUL332LX : YUL will continue to lag other airports in terms of growth due to the poor economic climate in Quebec The economic climate in Quebec has been better t
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