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User currently offlineSaleem From Pakistan, joined Mar 2000, 197 posts, RR: 0
Posted (11 years 4 months 3 weeks 1 day 8 hours ago) and read 2760 times:

How often someone travel on jump seat or even I must say as Jump Stand (for those small cockpits, which don't have additional seating capacity). I always try to get jump seat and often get it.

Almost every time I find Pilots are too cooperative and when they came to know that I am a Fun Flyer they offer seat in Cockpit and if they don't have any Seat (Fokker F27 case) they offer me space behind the little cockpit to stand there and view landing.

Around 25 - 30% times I travel in Cockpit.

How many other have this opportunity?

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User currently offlineQIguy24 From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 1, posted (11 years 4 months 3 weeks 1 day 8 hours ago) and read 2727 times:

I have done that many times as well. I work for QI and have been flying jumpseat many times when I have asked for it. I have tried it on a ATR42, ATR 72 and CRJ-200
And I enjoy it every time even thoug I am 197cm tall.

User currently offlinePH-BFA From Netherlands, joined Apr 2002, 562 posts, RR: 1
Reply 2, posted (11 years 4 months 3 weeks 1 day 8 hours ago) and read 2721 times:

'and if they don't have any Seat (Fokker F27 case) they offer me space behind the little cockpit to stand there and view landing'

you mean you are actually standing during landing??? Sounds pretty dangerous....


User currently offlineJumbopilot From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 3, posted (11 years 4 months 3 weeks 1 day 7 hours ago) and read 2692 times:

I am a frequent flyer of LH since many years, but I have not ever asked the crew for that. Maybe I should do that because it is a dream since my childhood to get in touch with that experience.

Is it really so easy? Only asking the crew? As I have heard, at LH (or in whole Germany) there is an updated law for safety in airspace now. And for that reason it is no longer allowed to travel within the cockpit, if you are not a current crew member (it is forbidden now even for pilots of the same company which want to travel back to their homebase).

User currently offlineLHSebi From Germany, joined Jan 2004, 1049 posts, RR: 7
Reply 4, posted (11 years 4 months 3 weeks 1 day 7 hours ago) and read 2644 times:

I recently asked on 2 LH flights (within europe) if I could jumpseat. One of the stewardesses said she would ask the captain, and he said no. The other one straight away said that it is forbidden by the authorities, and she didnt even bother asking the captain. I would always ask. There is no harm in trying, and the worst thing that happens is that they say no. They will usually let you into the cockpit to take photos and/or to chat with the pilots. That will usually work, and has worked for me. Good luck!


I guess that's what happens in the end, you start thinking about the beginning.
User currently offlineSaleem From Pakistan, joined Mar 2000, 197 posts, RR: 0
Reply 5, posted (11 years 4 months 3 weeks 1 day 6 hours ago) and read 2577 times:

Yes, this is quite easy. As I have my visiting cards of my flying club, so Pilots normally respect a flyer. If you ask FA to get the permission, the normal answer is straight forward is "NO". So, better to send your Card (may be that your business card) to Captain and said that you would like to meet him and on the back side of the card write message, normally it works.

I observed as usually I fly in Business and First Class, that when I am flying in F/J class the treatment for cockpit visit is better than Tourist/Economy Class.

Certainly, after 9/11 the rules have been changed very mush and pilots are more strict in allowing someone in the cockpit and as I am also a Fun Flyer and have full beard the FAs may be little more conscious about my entry in Cockpit, however I have many friends who are Pilots and when they are in command I got entry very easily.

It was really a very bad act of terrorism (9/11), however its impact on aviation lovers is very long term, as security is everywhere, where someone see camera they become suspicious, Cockpit security is too tight and its reality that sometimes when I visit the cockpit the other passengers become worried as there is something going wrong.

Pray to Allah that peace would be every where. Ameen

User currently offlineBeechcraft From Germany, joined Nov 2003, 828 posts, RR: 39
Reply 6, posted (11 years 4 months 3 weeks 1 day 4 hours ago) and read 2502 times:

Hey Sebastian. It is not forbidden.
"The final decision (still) rests with the commander."
regards, denis

That's it! You people have stood in my way long enough. I'm going to clown college!
User currently offlineAeroyu From Hong Kong, joined Oct 2000, 178 posts, RR: 10
Reply 7, posted (11 years 4 months 3 weeks 1 day 3 hours ago) and read 2470 times:

My only jump-seat experience was seating in a A330-300 to Sapporo, Japan. Unluckily (and luckily) the landing was go-around due to an aircraft stuck in the runway. Amazing.

Kai Tai - I missed you so much
User currently offlineJhooper From United States of America, joined Dec 2001, 6206 posts, RR: 11
Reply 8, posted (11 years 4 months 3 weeks 1 day 1 hour ago) and read 2419 times:

If you even asked in the U.S., they'd treat you like a terror suspect.

Last year 1,944 New Yorkers saw something and said something.
User currently offlinePIA747 From Pakistan, joined Apr 2003, 624 posts, RR: 0
Reply 9, posted (11 years 4 months 3 weeks 23 hours ago) and read 2368 times:

I guess you mostly travel PIA, and PIA does not have very strict rules on Cockpit visits. I have travelled on the Jumpseat all my life, as a non revenue passenger. For me its lost its charm.

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