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Spotting In USA After 3/11!  
User currently offlineCV990 From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Posted (10 years 4 months 2 weeks 5 days 10 hours ago) and read 3491 times:


Hi!

I wanted to have the feedback from our US enthusiasts about the topic above mentioned. I have a friend that will be visiting USA soon to see some airports there, he will fly NW and will go to MSP and MIA. Now after the bombs at Madrid is USA raising their level of security and is it still safe to spot airplanes now there?
Please let me know your feedback!
regards

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User currently offlineMlsrar From United States of America, joined Mar 2000, 1417 posts, RR: 8
Reply 1, posted (10 years 4 months 2 weeks 5 days 10 hours ago) and read 3474 times:

Do you mean 9/11?

Filler.



I mean, for the right price I’ll fight a lion. - Mike Tyson
User currently offlineJfernandez From United States of America, joined Feb 2004, 304 posts, RR: 0
Reply 2, posted (10 years 4 months 2 weeks 5 days 10 hours ago) and read 3449 times:

I think he's asking if the March 11 attacks on the RENFE are going to influence USA security protocol. The short answer, as of right now, is no.

User currently offlineSrbmod From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 3, posted (10 years 4 months 2 weeks 5 days 10 hours ago) and read 3427 times:

For the most part, the only areas of transportation that are seing any increases in security as a result of the attacks in Spain are railroads and subways.

User currently offlineKomododx From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 4, posted (10 years 4 months 2 weeks 5 days 10 hours ago) and read 3338 times:

Since there has been no "chatter", the level of terror threat has not been raised... yet!

KdX


User currently offlineTrident2e From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 5, posted (10 years 4 months 2 weeks 5 days 9 hours ago) and read 3295 times:

Mlsrar - no, he means 3/11, referring to the terrorist activity in Madrid this week.

User currently offlineBR715-A1-30 From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 6, posted (10 years 4 months 2 weeks 5 days 9 hours ago) and read 3288 times:

Oh great, Now watch King Butch raise the security level on the 11th day of every month.

User currently offlineNtspelich From United States of America, joined Aug 2003, 764 posts, RR: 0
Reply 7, posted (10 years 4 months 2 weeks 5 days 9 hours ago) and read 3276 times:

Assuming that the Dept of Homeland Security hasn't raised the terror alert level since Thursday, I'd imagine that things haven't changed much. Although, I'm sure that law enforcement/the powers that be are being a bit more cautious without making it all to known to the public.

NS



United 717 heavy, you're facing the wrong way. Any chance you can powerback to get off of my deice pad?
User currently offlineJhooper From United States of America, joined Dec 2001, 6202 posts, RR: 12
Reply 8, posted (10 years 4 months 2 weeks 5 days 8 hours ago) and read 3196 times:

For the last couple of years, it's always been a pain in the a$$ at most U.S. airports and train stations to "loiter" or "spot".


Last year 1,944 New Yorkers saw something and said something.
User currently offlineB741 From Canada, joined Jan 2004, 716 posts, RR: 1
Reply 9, posted (10 years 4 months 2 weeks 5 days 6 hours ago) and read 3058 times:

Strange how it has been 911 days between the two attacks.


Being Bilingual, I Speak English And Aviation
User currently offlineAlitaliaMD11 From Spain, joined Dec 2003, 4068 posts, RR: 13
Reply 10, posted (10 years 4 months 2 weeks 5 days 4 hours ago) and read 2955 times:

Hey

i am in Madrid now. I was here during the bombings. I doubt that the US will tighten security. I mean in Madrid they still havent raised security that much. I am flying out tommrow and will see if the Security is tighter at MAD and or JFK and AMS.

The train stations and yards may be a little higher.




No Vueling No Party
User currently offlineJhooper From United States of America, joined Dec 2001, 6202 posts, RR: 12
Reply 11, posted (10 years 4 months 2 weeks 5 days 4 hours ago) and read 2883 times:

Security at train stations is a joke. I rode on the D.C. subways every day last week and remember thinking how easy it would be for someone to set off a bomb..


Last year 1,944 New Yorkers saw something and said something.
User currently offlineScottishLaddie From United Kingdom, joined Jan 2004, 2384 posts, RR: 8
Reply 12, posted (10 years 4 months 2 weeks 5 days 4 hours ago) and read 2861 times:

B741, I didn't know that!!  Wow! Also exactly 2.5 years since 9/11. I have an awful feeling that maybe it wasn't coincidence......
By the way, I believe that these attacks were carried out by Al Qaida and not ETA.


User currently offlineCmckeithen From United States of America, joined Jul 2003, 617 posts, RR: 1
Reply 13, posted (10 years 4 months 2 weeks 5 days 3 hours ago) and read 2766 times:

There is a slight chance that they will raise the level from yellow (guarded) to Orange (high). Just to go any USA airport web site see. They have the color code system up there.

Also, Airports in my opinion always operate under code Orange eventhough the nations level is yellow.


User currently offlineJhooper From United States of America, joined Dec 2001, 6202 posts, RR: 12
Reply 14, posted (10 years 4 months 2 weeks 5 days 3 hours ago) and read 2718 times:

Yellow is 'Elevated'; Blue is 'Guarded'


Last year 1,944 New Yorkers saw something and said something.
User currently offlineScottKBUF From United States of America, joined Mar 2004, 102 posts, RR: 0
Reply 15, posted (10 years 4 months 2 weeks 5 days 3 hours ago) and read 2691 times:

Me and Danny spent 2 hours out at BUF this morning and besides from a guy in a SUV that appeared to be watching us it was just like any other day.


Scott Kiel - Buffalo, NY - Mmmm, L Glass
User currently offlineCmckeithen From United States of America, joined Jul 2003, 617 posts, RR: 1
Reply 16, posted (10 years 4 months 2 weeks 5 days 1 hour ago) and read 2562 times:

Well this shows that the color system means nothing. Oh honey today is a Yellow day what should I do?

User currently offlineMAH4546 From Sweden, joined Jan 2001, 32613 posts, RR: 72
Reply 17, posted (10 years 4 months 2 weeks 5 days 1 hour ago) and read 2494 times:

Security at train stations is a joke. I rode on the D.C. subways every day last week and remember thinking how easy it would be for someone to set off a bomb..

I agree, it would be incredibly easy.

I know in Miami they did remove all trash cans from MetroRail stations so that bomb's could not be hidden. I think DC did the same thing.




a.
User currently offlineMia777 From United States of America, joined Sep 2002, 1165 posts, RR: 6
Reply 18, posted (10 years 4 months 2 weeks 5 days 1 hour ago) and read 2453 times:

Isn't London's Tube "bomb-proof" because of the removal of trash bins and other measures (because of the IRA threat)?

Anyways I still don't understand how hard it could possibly be to shoot an airliner down. While I don't know the range of Stinger missles, it seems like it would be so easy to shoot one down on approach. It bothers me as a photographer that security is so damn tight on the perimeter fence but there is nothing (at least visibly) guarding the approach paths, etc.



MIA777
User currently offlineUsatoeze From United States of America, joined Feb 2004, 358 posts, RR: 3
Reply 19, posted (10 years 4 months 2 weeks 5 days 1 hour ago) and read 2376 times:

By the way, I believe that these attacks were carried out by Al Qaida and not ETA.

Yeah good point. The ETA attacks in the past have always been centered around political targets, and when they make a mistake as they did a few years ago when they accidentally killed 19(??) people they quickly apologized.




War is a very poor political tool
User currently offlineScottishLaddie From United Kingdom, joined Jan 2004, 2384 posts, RR: 8
Reply 20, posted (10 years 4 months 2 weeks 5 days ago) and read 2344 times:

Yeah good point. The ETA attacks in the past have always been centered around political targets, and when they make a mistake as they did a few years ago when they accidentally killed 19(??) people they quickly apologized

Exactly, and now this:

http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/world/europe/3509426.stm


User currently offlineStrickerje From United States of America, joined Feb 2001, 723 posts, RR: 1
Reply 21, posted (10 years 4 months 2 weeks 4 days 16 hours ago) and read 2212 times:

Not to be picky, but by my calculation, there were 912 days between the two attacks. Did you take into account the leap year?

Still, 2 and a half years to the day is a bit strange... I wonder if it's a coincidence or if they intended for it to be symbolic.

Anyway, I wouldn't think that this event would affect security in the U.S., although it wouldn't surprise me that much if it did...


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