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If Your Plane Was Hijacked.....  
User currently offlineJhooper From United States of America, joined Dec 2001, 6204 posts, RR: 12
Posted (10 years 8 months 2 weeks 2 days 1 hour ago) and read 8810 times:

....What would you do if you were a passenger? (not pilots or crew / I know you can't discuss your training)

Would you react immediately and beat the crap out of them? Would you wait a few moments to see what the crew or air marshals will do? Would you obey the hijackers?

I remember sitting in the first row of coach on a recent flight to Washington D.C. and remember thinking that if we were hijacked, I would use the fire extinguisher which was right in front of me and either beat them over the head with it or discharge it on them (or would the be too dangerous in a closed cabin??)

What would you do if they discharged gas to incapacitate the passengers/crew as appeared to have happened on 9/11?


Last year 1,944 New Yorkers saw something and said something.
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User currently offlineArtsyman From United States of America, joined Feb 2001, 4745 posts, RR: 34
Reply 1, posted (10 years 8 months 2 weeks 2 days 1 hour ago) and read 8755 times:

While many people suggest that terrorists would get beaten senseless, the truth is that few people would have the guts to be the person that gets knifed or shot as the first person running at the terrorist. Most passengers would be happy to run ahd jump in 3rd or 4th, but not be the first.

Thank god there are people like BigPhil

J


User currently offlineXFSUgimpLB41X From United States of America, joined Aug 2000, 4223 posts, RR: 37
Reply 2, posted (10 years 8 months 2 weeks 2 days 1 hour ago) and read 8761 times:

I'd be forced to roll out my keg of whoopass and tap dat shizzle.


Chicks dig winglets.
User currently offlinePanAm330 From United States of America, joined Mar 2004, 2692 posts, RR: 9
Reply 3, posted (10 years 8 months 2 weeks 2 days 1 hour ago) and read 8751 times:

In all reality- curl up into a fetal position, cry and pass out from fright  Laugh out loud. But I'm not going to be macho, and assume I'd stand up for everyone and pummel the hijacker- you cannot really determine how you act until you've been in that exact position- which I take, none of us here have been. I commend all those on the aircraft on that infamous day over 2 1/2 years ago. It must be an absolutely heart-breaking feeling, knowing these are indeed your last minutes  Sad.

User currently offlineContinental From United States of America, joined Jun 2000, 5520 posts, RR: 18
Reply 4, posted (10 years 8 months 2 weeks 2 days 1 hour ago) and read 8722 times:

If I knew some guy was going to crash it, then why not fight him? I assume that you can get a group of the fittest, biggest men/women and just beat him senseless. If the pilots were still alive, then they could fly us to safety!

But I mean comeon, if it was hijacked, and you knew that he was going to do something bad and the fact that we all have knowledge of the 9-11 happenings, then why WOULDN'T you try to fight him!?!?

co


User currently offlineJfernandez From United States of America, joined Feb 2004, 304 posts, RR: 0
Reply 5, posted (10 years 8 months 2 weeks 2 days 1 hour ago) and read 8688 times:

I suppose in this situation, you basically have to figure that you're already dead, so you can really only improve from there. Hopefully others would think the same thing, otherwise I just run up, die, and everyone else chickens out.

User currently offlineJhooper From United States of America, joined Dec 2001, 6204 posts, RR: 12
Reply 6, posted (10 years 8 months 2 weeks 2 days 1 hour ago) and read 8676 times:

This is how I've seen people react to certain emergency situations (i.e. somebody passes out and goes unconscious). Although I'll admit I've only been around during a few emergencies, It seems like when there's a big crowd, people tend to freeze and nobody does anything, as they will usually assume that there's somebody else present who will "take charge"; ordinary people don't seem to know what to do - they might just stand there and watch. They either freeze, or panic. I'm wondering if the same thing would happen here....


Last year 1,944 New Yorkers saw something and said something.
User currently offlineAa61hvy From United States of America, joined Nov 1999, 13977 posts, RR: 57
Reply 7, posted (10 years 8 months 2 weeks 2 days ago) and read 8672 times:

I'd jack these dudes up, I don't care if there are 5 of them, if they take me down first so be it, but I can tell you what- I wont go down easy.

I think be me jumping one of the guys at least one other person would help me out.



Go big or go home
User currently offlineNIKV69 From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 8, posted (10 years 8 months 2 weeks 2 days ago) and read 8641 times:

I would wait and hopefully watch an Air Marshal blow their brains all over the pax compartment. I mean we need our pilots armed and we need air marshals!

As for me I would fight them, in this day and age unless there is a severe breakdown in security they can not bring a gun on board so. I just hope we never have to find out and that the TSA can prevent this from ever happening again.


User currently offlineSchweizair From United States of America, joined Mar 2004, 139 posts, RR: 0
Reply 9, posted (10 years 8 months 2 weeks 2 days ago) and read 8625 times:

It might be a good idea to grab a bag from under your seat and use it as a shield. Charge the attacker and then everyone can subdue the attacker. I wish I knew if this tactic has been tried by air marshals. A good thing would be to make it possible to rip off the meal tray so you can hit them with it.

User currently offlineJhooper From United States of America, joined Dec 2001, 6204 posts, RR: 12
Reply 10, posted (10 years 8 months 2 weeks 2 days ago) and read 8604 times:

Unfortunately, it's not as impossible as you think to sneak a gun onto a plane, so it definitely is possible.

I was thinking about this the other day, as I always assumed that I would rush the hijackers and stop them right away, but then again, If I were to rush the cockpit, an air marshal is likely to think I'm one of the hijackers and shoot me too. But I guess that's a calculated risk, because if there are no FAMs on board, the passengers are the plane's only hope, but if a FAM is on board, you'd just be getting in their way.



Last year 1,944 New Yorkers saw something and said something.
User currently offlineUa777222 From United States of America, joined Dec 2003, 3348 posts, RR: 11
Reply 11, posted (10 years 8 months 2 weeks 2 days ago) and read 8595 times:

Assess the situation!

The macho people will jump to their feet the second they hear "we have a bomb" and those are sadly the first to be killed. I do by habit check what I can do in the case of an emergency (a/c failure, medical, drunk, and highjacking) and it runs through my head for a while. The fact of the matter is that if someone gets up and yells for everyone to get down and that they have a bomb you know that the TSA isn't that stupid (or so they say) to allow a bomb of any kind on board an aircraft. You have to think that they are making something up somewhere. And that they can't have complete control over the situation. All the planning in the world can't control the unthinkable things like; crew change, equipment change, delay, cancellation, other inflight emergency. Use these to your advantage and after thinking it out THEN ACT APON THE HIGHJACKERS!!! I would help in any way in any emergency if I could, no second thoughts about it whatsoever.


/ / / U N I T E D 4 E V E R

UA777222



"It wasn't raining when Noah built the ark."
User currently offlineBoeing nut From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 12, posted (10 years 8 months 2 weeks 2 days ago) and read 8521 times:

If I knew that it was another 9/11 situation, I would definitely be the first one in line. If I don't do anything I would die for sure. Might as well go down fightin and have people behind me kill the bastards.

User currently offlineJetsGo From United States of America, joined Jul 2003, 3086 posts, RR: 5
Reply 13, posted (10 years 8 months 2 weeks 2 days ago) and read 8520 times:

I would definetly put up a fight. There is no way in hell that those terrorists would take my plane and use it September 11th style. No way at all. Better to die trying then to die a coward.


Chris



Marine Corps Aviation, The Last To Let You Down!
User currently offlineJhooper From United States of America, joined Dec 2001, 6204 posts, RR: 12
Reply 14, posted (10 years 8 months 2 weeks 2 days ago) and read 8503 times:

UA777222 ,

You're probably a pretty level headed guy; I like your suggestion to assess the situation before taking action. However, I'm not so confident in TSA's ability to keep bombs and weapons off of planes. Studies indicate that they still have a long way to go in that area...



Last year 1,944 New Yorkers saw something and said something.
User currently offlineOzzie From United States of America, joined Feb 2004, 338 posts, RR: 0
Reply 15, posted (10 years 8 months 2 weeks 2 days ago) and read 8477 times:

In this day and age especially after 9/11, I bet, and for that matter hope, that everybody would stand up and do something or another. Even if it was certain that the plane would go down, I would also hope that the passengers would do their best to crash it in a rural location, or at least try to save it, similar to what happened in Pennsylvania, to stop it from hitting something and killing many more people. I mean come on, after 9/11, a plane with hundreds of pax is not gonna let 3 guys take it over.

User currently offline777lover From United States of America, joined Mar 2001, 96 posts, RR: 0
Reply 16, posted (10 years 8 months 2 weeks 1 day 23 hours ago) and read 8435 times:

some crazy bastard's gonna have another crazy bastard's fountain pen in his neck


User currently offlineANA777Master From United States of America, joined Mar 2004, 126 posts, RR: 0
Reply 17, posted (10 years 8 months 2 weeks 1 day 23 hours ago) and read 8377 times:

I'd like to say that I would beat the poop out of the perpetrator, but the poop would be coming out of me instead!

[Edited 2004-03-14 07:54:35]

User currently offlineKilavoud From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 18, posted (10 years 8 months 2 weeks 1 day 22 hours ago) and read 8345 times:

I sincerely do not know what I would do, but one thing is sure, I would be very happy to fly alone this time , without my wife and my two daughters.  Love  Love  Love

Cheers. Kilavoud.






User currently offlineB741 From Canada, joined Jan 2004, 716 posts, RR: 1
Reply 19, posted (10 years 8 months 2 weeks 1 day 22 hours ago) and read 8324 times:

I would try to subdue and hold the hijacker, not kill. Once on the ground the hijacker would be taken into custody and interrogated. Find out who manipulated them and send all parties involved to Siberia with no clothing. Better yet, it would be cheaper to drop them off 50 miles North of Kapuskasing in the middle of January.


Being Bilingual, I Speak English And Aviation
User currently offlineBackfire From Germany, joined Oct 2006, 0 posts, RR: 0
Reply 20, posted (10 years 8 months 2 weeks 1 day 21 hours ago) and read 8264 times:

Don't flatter yourselves. We all like to BELIEVE that we'd wade in like the big hero and save the day. But what you'd like to believe is often a long way removed from what you'd actually DO. Don't forget that your own imagination is good at leaving out those inconvenient little details, like the feeling of true fear, in order to feed your little John Wayne fantasy.

In my experience, those who do all the talking are the ones who are trying to boost their self-esteem. It's the quiet, calm, self-assured individual - not the type who feels the need to boast on this thread - who'll be the one to save your @ss when the balloon goes up.


User currently offlineRonE From Israel, joined Jan 2001, 326 posts, RR: 0
Reply 21, posted (10 years 8 months 2 weeks 1 day 21 hours ago) and read 8252 times:

100% right, Backfire.

If it was me in that situation, I'd probably just stay in my seat and s__t in my pants- thats God's honest truth...


User currently offlineAmwest25 From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 22, posted (10 years 8 months 2 weeks 1 day 21 hours ago) and read 8218 times:

Planes have coffee makers, (most do anyhow) that hot water could do some damage to a would be highjackers face if thrown on him.

User currently offlineArtsyman From United States of America, joined Feb 2001, 4745 posts, RR: 34
Reply 23, posted (10 years 8 months 2 weeks 1 day 20 hours ago) and read 8186 times:

Planes have coffee makers, (most do anyhow) that hot water could do some damage to a would be highjackers face if thrown on him.
***

Have you drank some of the airline coffee ???, you could do more damage just having them drink it..

J


User currently offline727200er From Canada, joined Mar 2004, 318 posts, RR: 0
Reply 24, posted (10 years 8 months 2 weeks 1 day 20 hours ago) and read 8151 times:

Spend time assessing the situation to see what I CAN do. Then do it.

I have been stabbed several times and shot once. It isn't that big of a deal. The worst that can happen is I die.

Being a bouncer in a strip club, in a bad place was good training I guess.



"they who dream by day are cognizant of many things which escape those who dream only at night" - Edgar Allen Poe
25 Post contains images Flyguyclt : Folks: Take a good look at the entire situation before anyone jumps in. Remember this, there maybe more hijackers sitting to see who gets invovled. Be
26 Trekster : Just after 9/11, (i think 4 days after)i cant recall what airline, a captain did his announcment and said somthing along the lines of (dont quote me o
27 FlyingColours : I was only discussing this on Wednesday in college with a friend. In that situation I was stuck in a middle seat (Not isle or window). The point being
28 SK901 : I don't know what I will do in a situation like this, because i have never been in one before. But I do hope that I can keep my head cool and help my
29 DC-10 Levo : I really wouldn't know what to do if that happened. It's something I usually think about before I fly but I don't get scared about it. I'd want to hel
30 Fritzi : I am not going to even think up a plan about what I would do in that situation. If I would do it then I most certainly would probably not remember wha
31 QIguy24 : I would get so chocked, that I wouldn't know what to do. I would try to atack the Hijackers, And since I am a pretty fat guy I wouldn't even feel the
32 Post contains images Kilavoud : Fritzi, Aerobatics, that's a good idea, Looping the loop with only the passsengers and crew members securely fastened would be the best to do. Afterwa
33 Post contains images B747Skipper : I only would be concerned if the hijacker - (1) sits down in the LH seat (2) has a brand new pilot's license (3) programs the FMS to the Eifel Tower c
34 Post contains images BR715-A1-30 : If a man was pointing a gun at me, I'd do exactly what he told me to do. Until he turned around.
35 Bmi330 : I would do what they told me until the chance arises to take action or it was the last role of the dice do or die time. But I wouldn't just let it hap
36 NIKV69 : I would hope most people wouldn't just sit in their seat. That is what terrorists want. Remember the book of Revelation "And by peace, shall destroy m
37 Ryangooner : The fact of the matter is that nobody knows how they will react until faced with the situation, either way everyones gonna lose their head, whether yo
38 Flymia : I would wait to see if the Crew would do anything or if there was a marshal. Maybe the Captain has a gun. Now if nothing happens and the highjacker do
39 Corey07850 : Seat cushion like a shield, and grab some of the oxygen bottles out of the back or something and beat the guy down. There isn't a lot of room in the a
40 SASlover : I would be chocked and don't now what to do i would keep my head cool and think a way out of this. And try to get the plane back to save the people.
41 Post contains images Brasuca : I would love to be in a hijacked airplane...
42 Post contains images Fritzi : Brasuca, Do you by any chance owe the maffia a lot of money???
43 Jetbluefan1 : Surprisingly, I've never thought of a hijacking while on a plane. But now that it's been brought up... I would probably just sit in my seat and think,
44 Redngold : I'd like to think I'd have the guts to get up and throw myself at the a** hole (240 lbs. of angry fat woman coming at you) but I'd more likely be glue
45 Aa61hvy : Gooner- people are taught self defense for one reason, and one reason only. I plan on using it, if it came to that.
46 Jfernandez : some of the guys replies here is quite interesting - 16-20 yr olds saying they would beat the hijackers senseless - think again! Hey, they say youth g
47 Gigneil : I'm not 16-20, and I used to have to watch the Pentagon still smoking days later on my way to work. If we got hijacked, I'd happily be one of the firs
48 Spike : Well, I'd diffuse the situation: I'd calmly light up a cigarette and call home on my mobile. That would cause such a fuss that even the hijackers scen
49 Post contains images Thrust : I would take a bunch of sleeping tablets so my death would occur in my sleep..and therefore be as painless as possible...this would be only if the air
50 Spike : Nah... I'd rather go out with a 'bang'.
51 Post contains images Thrust : Guess that's not so bad either, Spike
52 Post contains images UAL777 : I would calmly break the hijacker's arm, drag him into the galley and pour hot coffee on the "motherf#cker". Then I would kill him in a most horrible
53 Carpatica : I would definitely asses the situation and pick the best opportunity to intervene. If successful, I would break each one of their limbs. As far as hav
54 MIA : I don't know if anyone has said this but I would start muttering Spanish consigns and if I noticed that they would continue to control the plane I wou
55 Spike : Wow! I've never though of 'muttering' as an effective terrorism defense strategy. What does "Hijos de perra vayanse p'al caraj#" actualy mean?
56 NBC News1 : I've read all the posts and I the only thing that would seem to be pretty effective is UAL777's idea of throwing hot coffee (or water) on the hijacker
57 Post contains images Jhooper : I've heard that "gouging out the eyeballs" is a particularly effective disabling strategy!
58 Frntman : There is a big what if tossed into the equation..... What if the terrorist detonates himself/herself with plastic explosives while on board. (A la Ric
59 Spike : "What if the terrorist detonates himself/herself with plastic explosives while on board. (A la Richard Ried's attempt or a more discreet detonating de
60 Nwairlinkfo : I have to say that I am really moved to hear what some of you all would do to protect the flight deck!! I think the best course of action would be to
61 Jhooper : Ok, thanks for all the great replies. I want to add a question to my original post... If you're a flight crew member (pilot or flight attendant), how
62 Milemaster : I would jump up and slash the throat of the nearest terrorist with my Executive Platinum Card. Then I would strangle him with my admiral's club luggag
63 Oerk : Does the flight deck door NEVER open mid flight? I cannot imagine that, and if it does open... theres always the chance. Therefore, the big question..
64 Post contains images Flyguyclt : JHooper: I would like it for the passengers to wait for just a second. Listen to crew commands. You may just be getting in the way depending on whom i
65 Arsenal@LHR : If the hijackers have guns, then there's nothing you can do because they can finish off each passenger one by one. If they don't have guns, then you h
66 Contrails : This is a thought-provoking thread. Anyone who flies should give this matter some consideration. It might be a good idea to grab a bag from under your
67 PROSA : One of the reasons why the 9-11 hijackers were sucessful were because they boarded near empty flights with only a few dozen passengers on board, leavi
68 Spike : Hijacking is soooo 2001. It will not happen again. Nobody will stand for it, and even terrorists know this. Air Masrshalls will just be guarding the t
69 Jhooper : Make no mistake Spike ; their primary mission is to twart a hijacking attempt, not to police "air rage" incidents. Personally, I find it dangerous tha
70 Moolies : Some one tried to hi-jack me in my car once, well him and a "pal" needless to say he came short. I stopped at a stop sign and a guy walked to the fron
71 OmShanti : Just a thought that arose while reading the posts, Are the pilots informed if there are Marshalls on the aircraft or is that kept secret. As a passang
72 AlekToronto : loved reading all the "tough" answers on this thread...realistically thou it takes a person with REAL BALLS to do anything. In my life I have never se
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