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Barrel Roll In A 747.....  
User currently offlineANA777Master From United States of America, joined Mar 2004, 126 posts, RR: 0
Posted (10 years 9 months 1 week 2 days 19 hours ago) and read 19706 times:

My apologies if this is common knowledge, but I recall seeing video of a 747 doing a barrel roll, filmed sometime in the 70's. Does anyone know the guy's name who did this hilarious-looking stunt? I believe his nickname was "Tex" and I think he caught some heat for doing so. Can anyone shed some light on this subject?

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User currently offlineKhushdesi From United States of America, joined Jan 2004, 85 posts, RR: 0
Reply 1, posted (10 years 9 months 1 week 2 days 19 hours ago) and read 19626 times:

sorry for the dumb question-

but what is a barrel roll?


User currently offlineSK973 From Sweden, joined Mar 2004, 327 posts, RR: 1
Reply 2, posted (10 years 9 months 1 week 2 days 19 hours ago) and read 19609 times:

I've seen photage of a 707 doing it during a test flight but never heard of a 747 doing it...

A famous pic from inside the 707 looking out over the wing and seeing the engines on TOP is pretty awesome! Big grin


User currently offlineB747_A340 From Canada, joined Dec 2000, 197 posts, RR: 0
Reply 3, posted (10 years 9 months 1 week 2 days 19 hours ago) and read 19609 times:

Hi ANA777Master

I think that it wasn't a 747, but actually the Dash 80 (707 prototype). If you have Discovery Wings you can watch a little segment they play about it between programs. I think its something about being witness to history. Sorry I can't help you more

Diego



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User currently offlineSW733US From United States of America, joined Mar 2004, 10 posts, RR: 0
Reply 4, posted (10 years 9 months 1 week 2 days 19 hours ago) and read 19599 times:

It was the dash 80, a 707 prototype. It did it during a boat race to prove to bystanders that the jet might be a valueable investment. The Pilot was fired, but then re-hired due to his experence.

User currently offlineANA777Master From United States of America, joined Mar 2004, 126 posts, RR: 0
Reply 5, posted (10 years 9 months 1 week 2 days 19 hours ago) and read 19572 times:

I just assumed it was a 747 since it was huge looking with 4 engines. Thanks for clarifying.

User currently offlineL-188 From United States of America, joined Jul 1999, 29832 posts, RR: 58
Reply 6, posted (10 years 9 months 1 week 2 days 19 hours ago) and read 19407 times:

Yup, Tex Johnson.

In theory the roll is a positive 1G manuver, so any aircraft should be able do to it.

Of course that really didn't work that well with Bill Allen.



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User currently offlineMYT332 From United Kingdom, joined Sep 2003, 9112 posts, RR: 70
Reply 7, posted (10 years 9 months 1 week 2 days 19 hours ago) and read 19396 times:



Sweet!!



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User currently offlineANA777Master From United States of America, joined Mar 2004, 126 posts, RR: 0
Reply 8, posted (10 years 9 months 1 week 2 days 19 hours ago) and read 19335 times:

Thanks, L-188. That's what I would've thought, theoretically.

User currently offlineRoots From United States of America, joined Feb 2004, 98 posts, RR: 0
Reply 9, posted (10 years 9 months 1 week 2 days 18 hours ago) and read 19210 times:

Here's more from Google:

http://www.707sim.com/texjohnson.html

http://pub13.ezboard.com/fconcordesstfrm10.showMessage?topicID=442.topic


User currently offlineL-188 From United States of America, joined Jul 1999, 29832 posts, RR: 58
Reply 10, posted (10 years 9 months 1 week 2 days 18 hours ago) and read 19181 times:

I forget what TV show I got that from, but it was Tex Johnson that said that was the explaination he gave to Paul Allen after Allen got off the heart meds following Johnson doing the roll Big grin


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User currently offlineMYT332 From United Kingdom, joined Sep 2003, 9112 posts, RR: 70
Reply 11, posted (10 years 9 months 1 week 2 days 18 hours ago) and read 19178 times:

Heres the vid but mine says its corrupt, might work better for you?

http://www.alexisparkinn.com/photogallery/Videos/707%20Roll.mpg




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User currently offlineCarduelis From United Kingdom, joined Dec 2001, 1586 posts, RR: 10
Reply 12, posted (10 years 9 months 1 week 2 days 18 hours ago) and read 19172 times:


The 707 barrell roll was discussed at length recently. for more info:-

http://www.airliners.net/discussions/general_aviation/read.main/1431557/6/





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User currently offlineStarlionblue From Greenland, joined Feb 2004, 17172 posts, RR: 66
Reply 13, posted (10 years 9 months 1 week 2 days 18 hours ago) and read 19117 times:

In an "ordinary roll" the plane flies along an imaginary line that goes through it from stem to stern.

In a barrel roll it flies in a horizontal spiral, and keeps a 1g force towards the bottom of the plane the whole time.



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User currently offlineSlamClick From United States of America, joined Nov 2003, 10062 posts, RR: 68
Reply 14, posted (10 years 9 months 1 week 2 days 18 hours ago) and read 19103 times:

Become legendary for a feat like this and get your name spelled wrong.

It is Tex Johnston - with a T.

I expect he was cordially invited not to do it anymore.




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User currently offlineKalakaua From United States of America, joined Jan 2004, 1516 posts, RR: 5
Reply 15, posted (10 years 9 months 1 week 2 days 18 hours ago) and read 19028 times:

Yup! Mr. Johnston told Mr. Allen that he was "selling airplanes."  Smile


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User currently offlineIMissPiedmont From United States of America, joined May 2001, 6340 posts, RR: 33
Reply 16, posted (10 years 9 months 1 week 2 days 12 hours ago) and read 18708 times:

"I expect he was cordially invited not to do it anymore." That he was.

Now for the surprise. If you had been inside the Dash 80 during the roll, with a cup of soda in your hand, you'd have felt no discomfort and have a full cup of soda at the end, except for what you drank during the roll.

[Edited 2004-03-16 06:09:36]


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User currently offlineEmmett99 From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 17, posted (10 years 9 months 1 week 2 days 12 hours ago) and read 18679 times:

By the way it was William Allen that Tex had to explain himself to not Paul Allen. Paul Allen is that Microsoft Geek that owns the Portland Jailblazers and the Seattle Seahags.

User currently offlineExitRow From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 18, posted (10 years 9 months 1 week 2 days ago) and read 18382 times:

Believe me... I had my fingers crossed while I watched last summer:


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Alas... I'll bet every lawyer at Boeing made VERY sure it didn't happen again.

Damn.

william


User currently offlineMD-90 From United States of America, joined Jan 2000, 8508 posts, RR: 12
Reply 19, posted (10 years 9 months 1 week 2 days ago) and read 18290 times:

Nah, what I wanted to see when the Dash-80 and the 777-300ER flew overhead was for the 777 to roll (twice, once going in each direction, to be historically accurate of course). Big grin

Didn't happen. Stupid bureaucracies.  Angry


User currently offlineExitRow From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 20, posted (10 years 9 months 1 week 2 days ago) and read 18110 times:

Ya gotta admit though... it was still pretty impressive:



william


User currently offlineNotar520AC From United States of America, joined Jul 2001, 1606 posts, RR: 4
Reply 21, posted (10 years 9 months 1 week 2 days ago) and read 18055 times:

Yeah ExitRow- I was hoping for it too...


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User currently offlineB727-200 From Australia, joined Nov 1999, 1051 posts, RR: 3
Reply 22, posted (10 years 9 months 1 week 1 day 16 hours ago) and read 17733 times:


When I get home I will look at a book that I have called "Widebody", which is a non-fiction paper back on the history of Boeing. It has a blow-by-blow description of the event, including the conversations that took place after (particularly when it was made apparant by Tex to Allen that he barrel-rolled test aircraft a little more than on the odd occasion).

Apparently this was not the first time, nor was it the last time that Tex was fired for being a "cowboy". What do you expect from a man whos tradition was to get himself a new pair of cowboy boots when he was about to test fly an aircraft for the first time???

B727-200.


User currently offlineIMissPiedmont From United States of America, joined May 2001, 6340 posts, RR: 33
Reply 23, posted (10 years 9 months 1 week 1 day 13 hours ago) and read 17499 times:

"Tex" was never fired by Boeing.


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