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Rumor UA Flying Int'l Out Of PHL?

TonyBurr From United States of America, joined Mar 2001, 983 posts, RR: 0
Posted (9 years 3 months 6 days 20 hours ago) and read 2706 times:

I admit it is just a rumor I heard, but has anyone else heard of the possibility of UA flying international out of Philadelphia? I heard they might by some USAirways international routes?

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Usairways85 From United States of America, joined Nov 2001, 3114 posts, RR: 7
Reply 1, posted (9 years 3 months 6 days 20 hours ago) and read 2607 times:

UALPHLCS just speculated that UA could potentially fly PHL-LHR, but said nothing was planned and if it ever does happen it was still at least a year away.

UALPHLCS From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 2, posted (9 years 3 months 6 days 17 hours ago) and read 2460 times:

Yeah all of UA's international routes out of PHL are US codeshares. However, I have speculated that UA may like to move an unused LHR slot to PHL ,if PHL becomes the Star hub it has the potential to be. BA is the only carrier to LHR out of PHL UA and AA both have connections and VS you have to drive to NY. UA would do a good job competing with BA's monopoly, and US would love to offer both LGW and LHR to the PHL market.

Admittedly this was before PHL became a WN and F9 city. Now US has to survive before Star will start flying in in any quantity.

Cha747 From United States of America, joined Dec 2003, 763 posts, RR: 6
Reply 3, posted (9 years 3 months 6 days 17 hours ago) and read 2444 times:

Did US get their rights from the flight TWA used to have PHL-LGW? Or is that something that AA still has the option of exercising? Or is it up for grabs? Or is it gone forever?

You land a million planes safely, then you have one little mid-air and you never hear the end of it - Pushing Tin

ConcordeBoy From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 4, posted (9 years 3 months 6 days 17 hours ago) and read 2411 times:

and US would love to offer both LGW and LHR to the PHL market

At this point, US could not place its code on any PHL-LHR offered by UA.

PS, and before anyone says it:
CO code into LHR was a different deal, at a different time, with different reciprocal obligations that UA/US are not likely to match or even be offered.

Cha747 From United States of America, joined Dec 2003, 763 posts, RR: 6
Reply 5, posted (9 years 3 months 6 days 17 hours ago) and read 2392 times:

At this point, US could not place its code on any PHL-LHR offered by UA.

ConcordeBoy - why? Me no understand?

You land a million planes safely, then you have one little mid-air and you never hear the end of it - Pushing Tin

USAFHummer From United States of America, joined May 2000, 10685 posts, RR: 54
Reply 6, posted (9 years 3 months 6 days 17 hours ago) and read 2362 times:

IIRC if the US/UA merger went through UA would have flown international routes out of PHL...for some reason PHL-YVR and PHL-CPH are the two that spring to mind...

Greg

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ConcordeBoy From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 7, posted (9 years 3 months 6 days 17 hours ago) and read 2351 times:

The topic concerns a US-based airline facing a restriction in regards to LHR; hmm, wonder what could be the cause of that........................... Big grin

StevenUhl777 From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 8, posted (9 years 3 months 6 days 17 hours ago) and read 2312 times:

I'd also bet on a PHL-LHR route, but ONLY after US gets flushed down the toilet, but not a day before. I'm sure UA is well aware of the US situation and has a contingency plan in place, depending on what happens.

Usairways85 From United States of America, joined Nov 2001, 3114 posts, RR: 7
Reply 9, posted (9 years 3 months 6 days 17 hours ago) and read 2283 times:

And UA is in much better shape than US?

ChrisNH From United States of America, joined Jun 1999, 3819 posts, RR: 2
Reply 10, posted (9 years 3 months 6 days 9 hours ago) and read 2122 times:

United failed miserably when they tried London-Boston service. Granted, AA and BA have a lot of lift in that market, so I never knew what UA thought they were going to accomplish anyway. But that's their mistake. As for PHL, they might succeed because there are not as many incumbent seats in this market as there are out of Boston. Still, UA will have a tough time attracting business in such a new (and for them, a different) market.

Chris in NH

UALPHLCS From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 11, posted (9 years 3 months 5 days 5 hours ago) and read 1824 times:

PHL is not a new and different market for them. I also don't think that US goin belly up would help UA international service. No on the contrary currently Star customers who want to connect to the East coast have to travel through FRA on LH to connect to US which is currently the only partner US has overseas. Or they would have to connect through ORD and come back to the east coast.

Once US is a Star partner BMI would bring in feed to US from MAN. But still no feed from the largest Hub in the world. UA could fill that gap. would benefit from Euro traffic from LHR MAN and FRA as well as MAD. Summertime could get awfully busy in PHL.

Usairways85 From United States of America, joined Nov 2001, 3114 posts, RR: 7
Reply 12, posted (9 years 3 months 5 days 5 hours ago) and read 1748 times:

UALPHLCS: Will you be working the morning of the 27th(Saturday)? If you are, D should be a little chaotic. My high school is chartering an Airtran 717 and American 752 to Orlando. So D should be filled with 150 high school seniors Saturday morning. Maybe i'll say hi if i'm on the Airtran flt, i dont know which flt i'll be on yet.

Haveric From United States of America, joined Jan 2001, 1247 posts, RR: 5
Reply 13, posted (9 years 3 months 4 days 23 hours ago) and read 1584 times:

USAirways85 -- you go to Cherry Hill by any chance?

Usairways85 From United States of America, joined Nov 2001, 3114 posts, RR: 7
Reply 14, posted (9 years 3 months 4 days 18 hours ago) and read 1452 times:

Yes i do...Cherry Hill West.

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