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No Salary For Easy Jet First Officers / Co-Pilots?  
User currently offlineLovedswissair From Switzerland, joined Feb 2004, 26 posts, RR: 0
Posted (10 years 6 months 3 weeks 6 hours ago) and read 7328 times:

Didn't find this thread yet..

I heard about a BBC documentary on Easy Jet. One reason for Easy Jet flying at lower costs apparently was, that the first officers do not receive any income, instead they are allowed to accrue the necessary hours to get the pilot's license.

Does anybody know, if this is true or just a rumor ?

Thanks.

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User currently offlineCloud4000 From United States of America, joined Dec 2003, 641 posts, RR: 0
Reply 1, posted (10 years 6 months 3 weeks 6 hours ago) and read 7284 times:

Sounds like an apprenticeship and indentured servitude wrapped up in one. I know some LCCs, like Southwest, place the costs of pilot training on their employees.


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User currently offlineCPDC10-30 From United Kingdom, joined Feb 2000, 4785 posts, RR: 23
Reply 2, posted (10 years 6 months 3 weeks 6 hours ago) and read 7243 times:

False. Its right on their website for the whole world to see:

Agreement to be effective from 1/3/03 and valid until 31/3/04

Basic Salary

Captain £64,363
Captain £57,927 (1st 6 months)
Senior First Officers £39,023
Senior First Officers £35,121 (1st 6 months)
First Officer (frozen ATPL) £31,789
First Officer (frozen ATPL) £28,610 (1st 6 months)

Please note that you will receive 90% of your basic salary during the first 6 months of your employment.

Training Captains' Pay

Line Training Captains £70,799 (10% on basic salary)
Type Rating Instructors £72,408 (12.5% on basic salary)
Type Rating Examiners £74,017 (15% on basic salary)
Airborne Base Instructors £75,626 (17.5% on basic salary)

Sector Pay

Captains £20.62/sector
Senior First Officers £12.37/sector
First Officers £12.37/sector

For the period 1 March 2003


User currently offlineLovedswissair From Switzerland, joined Feb 2004, 26 posts, RR: 0
Reply 3, posted (10 years 6 months 3 weeks 6 hours ago) and read 7173 times:

CPDC10-30
thanks for the speedy clarification!


User currently offlineFlyingbronco05 From United States of America, joined May 2002, 3840 posts, RR: 2
Reply 4, posted (10 years 6 months 3 weeks 5 hours ago) and read 7130 times:

One reason for Easy Jet flying at lower costs apparently was, that the first officers do not receive any income, instead they are allowed to accrue the necessary hours to get the pilot's license.

1) It's illegal to not pay them

2) They have to be trained to be sitting there, so i highly doubt they are building hours to get their license.

FB05  Laugh out loud



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User currently offlineSlawko From Canada, joined May 1999, 3799 posts, RR: 9
Reply 5, posted (10 years 6 months 3 weeks 5 hours ago) and read 7083 times:

I do think that they pay for their own type-rating, and so at a cost of around 40 thousand USD per pilot they really dont make much in their first year...  Big grin


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User currently offlineRichard28 From United Kingdom, joined Aug 2003, 1621 posts, RR: 6
Reply 6, posted (10 years 6 months 3 weeks 5 hours ago) and read 7006 times:

I doubt that existing pilots would have to pay for a new type rating if they transfer from the Boeing 737 to the new Airbus A319 fleet?

I seem to remember type conversion was one of the things Airbus "threw in" to sweeten the deal? - maybe mistaken - perhaps someone can confirm.

Rich.


User currently offlineCPDC10-30 From United Kingdom, joined Feb 2000, 4785 posts, RR: 23
Reply 7, posted (10 years 6 months 3 weeks 3 hours ago) and read 6888 times:

I do think that they pay for their own type-rating, and so at a cost of around 40 thousand USD per pilot they really dont make much in their first year...

Well, considering people are spending $10,000 doing an MCSE certification and making $30,000 CDN per year, it seems like the EasyJet guys are not doing too badly. Unfortunatley a lot of companies are cheaping out on training, not just airlines.


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