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Where To Catch A Boeing 747 SP?  
User currently offlineBCALdavid From United Kingdom, joined Mar 2004, 74 posts, RR: 0
Posted (10 years 7 months 1 week 3 days 18 hours ago) and read 4222 times:

I was looking at my list of aircraft NOT flown, that are likely to disappear soon and came up with the 747SP. What is the cheapest way for me to fly on one this summer? I am in London, and can fly to another European airport if necessary - eg
LHR - ATH (BA)
ATH - TEH (IR 747SP)
What do you think?
I should have taken the chance with AA!!!

Thanks in advance.


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User currently offlineCOAB767 From Guam, joined Nov 2003, 1377 posts, RR: 9
Reply 1, posted (10 years 7 months 1 week 3 days 18 hours ago) and read 4097 times:

Fly a Japanese airline I'm sure they still have some of those around


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User currently offlineAmirs From Israel, joined Dec 2003, 1333 posts, RR: 4
Reply 2, posted (10 years 7 months 1 week 3 days 18 hours ago) and read 4052 times:

why fly to ATH? IR flies out of LHR to THR with 747SP. If you dont want to fly so far, you can also use Syrian Air, which uses a 747SP on LHR to Damascus.

User currently offlineWarren747sp From United States of America, joined Feb 2004, 1167 posts, RR: 0
Reply 3, posted (10 years 7 months 1 week 3 days 16 hours ago) and read 3909 times:

HI, David
Yes, the only scheduled carrier now is Syrian Air and Iran Air. Maybe Saudia
I know that SAA still have one flight from JNB to Bangkok until their new Airbus gets delivered anyday now.
Hope you will enjoy the flight on the 747SP but I do not believe that they will climb above 43,000ft on this short flights.



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User currently offlineTheFLCowboy From United States of America, joined Jan 2004, 405 posts, RR: 0
Reply 4, posted (10 years 7 months 1 week 3 days 16 hours ago) and read 3880 times:

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User currently offlineLijnden From Philippines, joined Apr 2003, 564 posts, RR: 1
Reply 5, posted (10 years 7 months 1 week 3 days 7 hours ago) and read 3702 times:
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Syrian Air still flies 747SP, was last month several times at AMS. Some new airline in South Africa flies with an old SAA 747SP to IAH (or is planning it!).


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User currently offlineStarlionblue From Greenland, joined Feb 2004, 17068 posts, RR: 66
Reply 6, posted (10 years 7 months 1 week 3 days 7 hours ago) and read 3688 times:

To catch an SP, you'll need a very large and very strong butterfly net. Good luck to you Big grin


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User currently offlineMoolies From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 7, posted (10 years 7 months 1 week 3 days 7 hours ago) and read 3673 times:

SAA doesnt have an SP any more. they also dont fly to bankgok any more.

User currently offlinePaulianer From Germany, joined Jul 2002, 875 posts, RR: 13
Reply 8, posted (10 years 7 months 1 week 3 days 7 hours ago) and read 3627 times:

Iran Air also flies from HAM, but the problem ist they're swichtinge equipment sometimes from SP to A300/A310 or other way arround. This might be the same problem from all other destinations they serve in Europe...

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User currently offlineTrident2e From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 9, posted (10 years 7 months 1 week 3 days 7 hours ago) and read 3590 times:

You also need to think about the impact of a Syrian or Iranian stamp in your passport. It may hinder your travel plans in the future!

User currently offlineDelboy From United Kingdom, joined Jun 2001, 725 posts, RR: 0
Reply 10, posted (10 years 7 months 1 week 3 days 7 hours ago) and read 3584 times:

COAB767


Don't think any Japanese companies operated the SP. The Chinese and Koreans did though.

Waiting to be corrected though.


User currently offlinePe@rson From United Kingdom, joined Jan 2001, 19236 posts, RR: 52
Reply 11, posted (10 years 7 months 1 week 3 days 7 hours ago) and read 3551 times:

Trident - I've got both a Syrian and Iranian stamp in my passport, and never had a problem. It'll only be a real problem if you're contemplating visting Israel before your passport expires.


"Everyone writing for the Telegraph knows that the way to grab eyeballs is with Ryanair and/or sex."
User currently offlineAR385 From Mexico, joined Nov 2003, 6357 posts, RR: 31
Reply 12, posted (10 years 7 months 1 week 3 days 7 hours ago) and read 3539 times:
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You definitely have to go to LHR, not only will you catch the Iran Air and the Syrian Air flights, but there is a strong chance you'll get one of the fleet of VIP's SP's from various Md-East countries.

The other thing, of course, is to go to Teheran or Damascus. I heard Teheran's atmosphere is not that nice, but Damascus is a beautiful city and you'll be pleasantly surprised. That way, you'll even fly on the SP.

I flew on the SP countless times. If you want, I can tell you what it feels like, just ask  Smile


User currently offlineFoxBravo From United States of America, joined Nov 2003, 3000 posts, RR: 4
Reply 13, posted (10 years 7 months 1 week 3 days 7 hours ago) and read 3496 times:

Befriend a member of the Saudi royal family. Being a terrorist might help. Oops, did I say that?  Smile

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User currently offlineCedarjet From United Kingdom, joined May 1999, 8142 posts, RR: 54
Reply 14, posted (10 years 7 months 1 week 3 days 7 hours ago) and read 3480 times:

AR385, I heard that Tehran is a friendly place. I've been to Damascus and I don't know where you got the idea it's a beautiful city - it's a shithole, although the souk is groovy and the grand mosque is really stunning. But if you're planning a 747SP-themed trip with something to look forward to after the end of the plane ride, expect to get a taxi from Damascus straight to Beirut. Or give Tehran a whirl. Damascus is dirty concrete and salesbeggars in all directions.


fly Saha Air 707s daily from Tehran's downtown Mehrabad to Mashhad, Kish Island and Ahwaz
User currently offlineAR385 From Mexico, joined Nov 2003, 6357 posts, RR: 31
Reply 15, posted (10 years 7 months 1 week 3 days 7 hours ago) and read 3409 times:
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Cedarjet,

Well, we obviously have different opinions about the places. I found Damascus to be pleasant, with cafes and people mingling in the evening, nice bazaars, etc., in general a nice, friendly place. Teheran I found totally oppresive. But, it's really a personal thing, so I guess no point in starting a debate. We just have a different opinions.


User currently offlinePe@rson From United Kingdom, joined Jan 2001, 19236 posts, RR: 52
Reply 16, posted (10 years 7 months 1 week 3 days 6 hours ago) and read 3365 times:

The only potential problem with Iran is that, for a Briton, it can be very slow and hard to obtain a tourist visa. Ensure you enquire well before (read: many months) your departure date to give yourself a better chance of obtaining one. With effort and commitment you should get one.


"Everyone writing for the Telegraph knows that the way to grab eyeballs is with Ryanair and/or sex."
User currently offlinePouyazad From Iran, joined Sep 2003, 119 posts, RR: 0
Reply 17, posted (10 years 7 months 1 week 3 days 6 hours ago) and read 3364 times:

"You also need to think about the impact of a Syrian or Iranian stamp in your passport. It may hinder your travel plans in the future!"

Trident2e, What does that mean? Why do you think having an Iranian stamp might cause future problems? It just shows you poor insight about this.

Anyway, BCALdavid, If you are planning to have trip to Iran by an Iran Air 747SP, you are more than welcome!!


User currently offlineAR385 From Mexico, joined Nov 2003, 6357 posts, RR: 31
Reply 18, posted (10 years 7 months 1 week 3 days 6 hours ago) and read 3334 times:
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Pouyazad,

I emphatize with you and understand why you are offended by Pe@rson comment.

However, the fact remains though, that these days with Blair and Bush, an earlier, Aznar, an Iranian stamp in your passports will guarantee at least, a second look from immigration. It's happening to me. I can't go to the US or London without the immigration zombies asking questions about that trip to Teheran. It's different in France. Now as to long-term consequences, that is a bit going over the top.


User currently offlineStarlionblue From Greenland, joined Feb 2004, 17068 posts, RR: 66
Reply 19, posted (10 years 7 months 1 week 3 days 6 hours ago) and read 3324 times:

Pouyazad. I'm sorry if this offends you, but an Iranian stamp might hinder your travels, for example to Israel. This is the reason some countries offer to stamp a separate paper.


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User currently offlinePe@rson From United Kingdom, joined Jan 2001, 19236 posts, RR: 52
Reply 20, posted (10 years 7 months 1 week 3 days 6 hours ago) and read 3309 times:

"I emphatize with you and understand why you are offended by Pe@rson comment."

Excuse me? What did I say which was offending? If you look, I did in fact say essentially what he did, with the addition of a bit about Israel.



"Everyone writing for the Telegraph knows that the way to grab eyeballs is with Ryanair and/or sex."
User currently offlineAR385 From Mexico, joined Nov 2003, 6357 posts, RR: 31
Reply 21, posted (10 years 7 months 1 week 3 days 6 hours ago) and read 3251 times:
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I said "WHY YOU ARE OFFENDED" I did not say your comment was offensive. In any case it's not important to the discussion at hand. Try and be less sensistive.

User currently offlineBA757 From United Kingdom, joined Dec 2003, 2832 posts, RR: 14
Reply 22, posted (10 years 7 months 1 week 3 days 6 hours ago) and read 3243 times:

Easy guys! Lets not turn this into a political thread.

For what its worth, I don't think Pe@rson's post was offensive - it was just fact.

Adam


User currently offlinePe@rson From United Kingdom, joined Jan 2001, 19236 posts, RR: 52
Reply 23, posted (10 years 7 months 1 week 3 days 6 hours ago) and read 3241 times:

LOL. I'm not being sensitive at all. You said: "I emphatize with you and understand why you are offended by Pe@rson comment." You apparently think that I offended him. Accordingly, please be so kind as to tell me how I offended him.

Aha, sorry. I got mixed up. People with an ISRAELI stamp will be denied entry into most parts of the Middle East (except Egypt and, I think, Lebanon), not the other way around.

[Edited 2004-03-17 15:36:51]


"Everyone writing for the Telegraph knows that the way to grab eyeballs is with Ryanair and/or sex."
User currently offlineAR385 From Mexico, joined Nov 2003, 6357 posts, RR: 31
Reply 24, posted (10 years 7 months 1 week 3 days 6 hours ago) and read 3202 times:
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Ok, I get it now. It's just that when writing you just can't see the person. I thought you were pitbull angry. I believe he got riled up with your comment because it implies a that his government is making it difficult on purpose for britons to fly to IRAN.

I also think he was already riled up by Triden'ts 2E comment.

Then again, my impression may have been wrong

Cheers.

Martin


25 Pe@rson : Yes, it is hard for Britons to obtain a visa for Iran, and less hard for Americans, Australians, New Zealanders, Canadians, etc. etc.
26 AR385 : Pe@rson For Mexicans, it´s also very, very hard. I´ll add you to my respected users list. You seem nice and affable.
27 Warren747sp : NO Japanese airlines have ever operated the SP though they have every other 747 type. Korean, China Airlines, Air China and Mauritius were the only op
28 Travelmark : How many seats and what is the range on the SP? Thanks
29 Sdate747 : I think I saw an Omani SP at MSP on Monday. Check out my post on it. I only caught a short glimpse, but my eyes don't lie.
30 Warren747sp : The seats depends on the configuration . The range is slightly more than the 747-400.
31 Ebos : Zulu Air will fly from JNB to Sao Tome and Houston with ex SAA SP's. Sven
32 BA : Aha, sorry. I got mixed up. People with an ISRAELI stamp will be denied entry into most parts of the Middle East (except Egypt and, I think, Lebanon),
33 United4ever : I would dearly love to visit Tehran, and a 747SP flight would be a bonus. The big problem is that I'm in the process of emigrating to the USA, and I g
34 BCALdavid : Thanks for the responses - and interesting discussion! I checked the Iran Air website and I get the impression the August services will be flown by Bo
35 TokyoNarita : You can fly from Tokyo to Tehran on B747SP. This flight makes a stop in Beijing but I doubt you can fly only Tokyo-Beijing segment. TokyoNarita.[Edite
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