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TZ: Non-Rev Shuttle Or Revenue Flights?  
User currently offlineOuboy79 From United States of America, joined Nov 2001, 4600 posts, RR: 22
Posted (10 years 6 months 1 week 1 day 9 hours ago) and read 2027 times:

Some information is leaking out today that is pretty disturbing. As most know, ATA is having Chicago Express begin a shuttle between IND and MDW. By the opinion of anyone related to the company, this is going to be nothing but a shuttle system for employees between the two stations. Now comes word that Lexington and Cedar Rapids will be eliminated from the ATA system to supply the planes for this.

From my perspective as an "outsider" (if I can be considered that)...is that this is gross misuse of company resources and the whoring out of a subsidiary to supply the bigger sibling. I have always thought that airlines are in the biz to make money...using up to 3 aircraft to fly non-revs around between cities is not making money.

Comments, opinions, gripes...go for it.

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User currently offlineCospn From Northern Mariana Islands, joined Oct 2001, 1619 posts, RR: 0
Reply 1, posted (10 years 6 months 1 week 1 day 8 hours ago) and read 1975 times:

As a former resident of IND this whole thing must be way cheaper than having employees living in Chicago, where the cost of living is at least twice that of IND..Sorry outboy they are taking over, your airline..

User currently offlineFedExIndy From United States of America, joined Jan 2001, 77 posts, RR: 0
Reply 2, posted (10 years 6 months 1 week 1 day 2 hours ago) and read 1912 times:

I remember they cut back on the C8 flights because they added a 738 between IND-MDW. There was already a 738 IND-MDW and it was good for non-reving. It was usually pretty empty. So, let me get this straight, ATA will have a 738 IND-MDW-SEA that leaves in the morning and the opposite routing that comes back around 9-10 pm. Plus a 738 MDW-IND-MIA that leaves MDW around 11 or noon and then the opposite routing that comes into IND around 6:00 pm. Add that with hourly C8 flights?????? That is a ton of capacity between IND-MDW.

User currently offlineJjbiv From United States of America, joined Jan 2001, 1226 posts, RR: 5
Reply 3, posted (10 years 6 months 1 week 23 hours ago) and read 1888 times:

The hourly Saab service replaces the 738s.

joe


User currently offlineOuboy79 From United States of America, joined Nov 2001, 4600 posts, RR: 22
Reply 4, posted (10 years 6 months 1 week 23 hours ago) and read 1870 times:

As a former resident of IND this whole thing must be way cheaper than having employees living in Chicago, where the cost of living is at least twice that of IND..Sorry outboy they are taking over, your airline..

Have I ever claimed to work for C8? Didn't think so. Assuming can be deadly you know.  Smile

What I was getting at...is it smart for an airline to sacrifice revenue cities (regardless if they are making that much money) for running an hourly shuttle between IND and MDW just to shuttle employees around. Understanding the cost of living differences, if it is such an issue - then why take a job when you know what city you are going to be based out of? If ATA wants to retain the people they have, then it is up to them to pay a living wage for that employee...otherwise, I see no reason to go out of the way and dedicate up to 3 aircraft from your feeder affiliate just to shuttle employees around.

I guess the silver lining in all this...that at least one of the planes will go to launch FWA.


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