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What If You Could Change An Airport Code?  
User currently offlineKEno From Malaysia, joined Feb 2004, 1842 posts, RR: 27
Posted (10 years 8 months 1 week 5 days 5 hours ago) and read 7782 times:

If you could change the airport code of existing airports, what would they be? Some airports inherit their old name like ORD (Orchard Field) or MCO (McCoy AFB), so these codes aren't exactly self-explanatory to an average Joe. I believe that some airports (especially minor or new ones) could not opt for the "correct" code because it has been taken by an older airport, for example DXB for Dubai instead of DUB. Somehow this reminds me of internet "cybersquatting" where the nice ones are already taken. Other airports just try to be unique and opt for confusing codes that don't represent their true meaning.

OK I'll start...
I think Lahore deserves to get LHR instead of LHE. Even without the consonants, you can sort of make out the sound Lahore. What code should Heathrow use? Maybe HRW or HTR.

Phuket should get PKT instead of settling for just HKT. PKT is the code for Port Keats in the Northern Territory, Australia. Phuket could easily deserve this code more.

Riyadh is RUH. No idea why they didn't use RYD because no other airport uses it as far as I know.


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User currently offlineMaersk737 From Denmark, joined Feb 2004, 717 posts, RR: 1
Reply 1, posted (10 years 8 months 1 week 5 days 5 hours ago) and read 7643 times:

He he

From LHR to HRW!

You will get burned!


Cheers


Peter



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User currently offlineHorus From Egypt, joined Feb 2004, 5230 posts, RR: 59
Reply 2, posted (10 years 8 months 1 week 5 days 5 hours ago) and read 7642 times:

Change CAI (Cairo International Airport) to -CIABig grin


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User currently offlineWindshear From Denmark, joined Mar 2000, 2333 posts, RR: 11
Reply 3, posted (10 years 8 months 1 week 5 days 4 hours ago) and read 7622 times:

He Funny one Horus  Big grin

I would first of all change all of the Canadian ones!
YYZ and YVR DOES NOT MAKE SENSE  Smile TOR and VAN/VCR or the likes why the Y???

Also why is KORD called ORD? And not CHI or COH or something...

There's a lot more  Smile

What about the ICAO YSSY???

Boaz...



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User currently offlineHoons90 From Canada, joined Aug 2001, 3046 posts, RR: 52
Reply 4, posted (10 years 8 months 1 week 5 days 4 hours ago) and read 7602 times:
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Windshear, ORD is called ORD because it used to be called 'Orchard Field'

for the ICAO YSSY.. Y is for Australia, S is for New South Wales and SY is for Sydney..



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User currently offlineGeoffm From United Kingdom, joined Feb 2004, 2111 posts, RR: 6
Reply 5, posted (10 years 8 months 1 week 5 days 4 hours ago) and read 7595 times:

Maybe Phuket should be POO... as that's how you say the first syllable.

It is suprising how many can be guessed without knowing. And knowing the reasoning behind some American ones means you can guess others (nEWaRk, Int Apt Houston (is that right?)).

MSY isn't even called Moisant Field these days, at least as far as non-local pax are concerned. Perhaps NOL or something.

Geoff M.


User currently offlineJGPH1A From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 6, posted (10 years 8 months 1 week 5 days 3 hours ago) and read 7554 times:

Geoffm

Phuket should be anything but HKT - its all wrong when the code doesn't start with the right letter (except Canada, but their codes are all screwed up anyway).

Re Lahore being LHR - nope ! LHR stands for London Heath Row (Heath Row was the name of the village buried to make room for the airport). LGW stands for London GatWick, LCY stands for London City, LTN stands for London Luton It would make sense then to change Stansted to LST - and perhaps Lahore should be LOR.


User currently offlineKEno From Malaysia, joined Feb 2004, 1842 posts, RR: 27
Reply 7, posted (10 years 8 months 1 week 5 days 3 hours ago) and read 7525 times:

Re Lahore being LHR - nope ! LHR stands for London Heath Row

Of course I know that. L-H-R sounds more like "Lahore" than "London Heath Row". Nevermind... there are many people who leave near Heathrow who have relatives back in Lahore anyway Big grin


User currently offlineNWA330Tony From United States of America, joined Nov 2003, 119 posts, RR: 0
Reply 8, posted (10 years 8 months 1 week 5 days 3 hours ago) and read 7514 times:

either minniapolis or detroit-metro from
DTW, MSP to NWA


User currently offlineUnited_Fan From United States of America, joined Nov 2000, 7522 posts, RR: 7
Reply 9, posted (10 years 8 months 1 week 5 days 2 hours ago) and read 7489 times:

I'm sure the people in FAT and SUX would like their's changed  Big grin


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User currently offlineRoberta From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 10, posted (10 years 8 months 1 week 5 days 2 hours ago) and read 7464 times:

I would make
JFK - BUM
ORD - POO
LAX - SEX
SFO - TIT

why?

because I'm immature Big grin he he he


User currently offlineMEA321 From Lebanon, joined Oct 2003, 389 posts, RR: 15
Reply 11, posted (10 years 8 months 1 week 5 days 2 hours ago) and read 7463 times:

I would give the airport identifier of ORL to Orlando International Airport.

Then I would give Orlando Executive the identifier OEX.



MEA321
User currently offlineB757capt From United States of America, joined Feb 2004, 1405 posts, RR: 0
Reply 12, posted (10 years 8 months 1 week 5 days 1 hour ago) and read 7449 times:

MDW to COOL LOL just kidding look at Wichita Mid Continent Airport ICT? I gues they just closed their eyes and picked a code. I'd change it to WIC


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User currently offlineVC745D From United States of America, joined Feb 2004, 214 posts, RR: 1
Reply 13, posted (10 years 8 months 1 week 5 days 1 hour ago) and read 7425 times:

if it ain't broke, etc...

In any case, "the average Joe" couldn't care less about airport codes, any more than he does about what kind of plane is taking him from, say, MSY to ORD. He just wants it cheap and to get the whole matter of air transportation over with asap.


User currently offlineSlider From United States of America, joined Feb 2004, 6912 posts, RR: 34
Reply 14, posted (10 years 8 months 1 week 5 days ago) and read 7392 times:

None of them...

However, the prohibition of "N" as the first letter is a bit of a pain. Especially for Newark, New Orleans, Nashville, etc...


User currently offlineVC745d From United States of America, joined Feb 2004, 214 posts, RR: 1
Reply 15, posted (10 years 8 months 1 week 5 days ago) and read 7368 times:

However, the prohibition of "N" as the first letter is a bit of a pain. Especially for Newark, New Orleans, Nashville, etc...

NEW is the code for New Orleans Lakefront Airport (originally Shushan Airport), which was the commercial field before MSY. And as an aside, MSY=Moisant Stock Yards. Aviator John (?) Moisant was killed in a crash on the site in the 20s (?); stock yards were later built there; hence the designator.

[Edited 2004-03-18 17:35:10]

User currently offlineJGPH1A From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 16, posted (10 years 8 months 1 week 5 days ago) and read 7350 times:

Why is 'N' prohibited ? Is this a US-specific rule ?

User currently offlineCoronado990 From United States of America, joined Oct 2003, 1610 posts, RR: 2
Reply 17, posted (10 years 8 months 1 week 4 days 23 hours ago) and read 7345 times:

The people at Fresno (FAT) should have it changed to FYI (for Fresno-Yosemite Int'l Airport), which is not currently being used.


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User currently offlinePanAm747 From United States of America, joined Feb 2004, 4242 posts, RR: 8
Reply 18, posted (10 years 8 months 1 week 4 days 23 hours ago) and read 7330 times:

I believe there was a thread at some point about why there are no airport codes in the United States that start with the letter "N" - I believe it has something to do with the fact that all military field designations start with that letter. That would explain why Newark is EWR and so on and so on.

I have no problem with Canadian airports using Y as the first letter. Sometimes you can make sense of it (YVR = Vancouver, BC), but it's easy to confuse Toronto (YYZ) and Calgary (YYC) - assuming I have them right here!

Fortunately, checked bags are given a bar code for the computers to read - and I don't think the computer cares at all if ORD represents Chicago...in the old days, I once caught an agent tagging my bags BDL instead of BFL. I pointed that out, and she politely changed it and smiled and said "good thing you saw that!!".



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User currently offlineSamurai 777 From Canada, joined Jan 2000, 2458 posts, RR: 4
Reply 19, posted (10 years 8 months 1 week 4 days 23 hours ago) and read 7313 times:

Hmmm, let's see....

I frankly don't think airport codes can be really changed realistically, nor should they be anyways. Most of them make sense to me anyways. This goes for both IATA and ICAO codes.

However - if there's one set of codes I'd like to see changed, they're IATA codes in my country. Why the hell do they all begin with "Y"? I think it's due to a holdover from the days when codes were assigned to rail stations when train travel was king, and Ottawa felt that airports fell into the same category as train stations, whatever category that is.

Here's how major Canadian airports should be changed to:
YYZ (Toronto Lester B. Pearson Int'l) = LBP (named after a Prime Minister)
YUL (Montreal Pierre Elliott Trudeau) = MTL (no I don't like "PET" - that's a French slang for farting, but then again look at Fukuoka's IATA code! LOL)
YVR (Vancouver) = VCR
YYC (Calgary) = CLG
YEG (Edmonton) = EDM
YXE (Saskatoon) = SKT
YQR (Regina) = RNA
YYT (St. John's) = SJS
YHZ (Halifax) = HFX
YWG (Winnipeg) = WPG
YXY (Whitehorse) = WHS (not exactly a major airport, but it's a well known city only because it's on the Alaska Highway - and the largest Canadian city north of the 60th Parallel (pop. about 23,000) )
YZF (Yellowknife) = YKN (once again, not a big one, but an important air distribution center for the Canadian North)

I've taken care not include codes that already exist, but I'm sure there's some codes I put in that might already exist. Why not CGY for Calgary, for instance? CGY is the IATA code for Caguyan de Oro in the Philippines. And I can't put in STN for Saskatoon - that's already taken by Stansted! Nor can I use YEL for Yellowknife - that one is already in use by Elliott Lake in Northern Ontario!

But I don't think even Canadian IATA codes will change in the near future or even at all, because it might be costly and also may conflict with those already in use, as I said. BTW, some of the Canadian codes already in existence are easy enough for most to remember which airport it belongs to, like YVR or YWG, for example.

[Edited 2004-03-18 18:01:11]

User currently offlineVC745d From United States of America, joined Feb 2004, 214 posts, RR: 1
Reply 20, posted (10 years 8 months 1 week 4 days 23 hours ago) and read 7278 times:

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User currently offlineKEno From Malaysia, joined Feb 2004, 1842 posts, RR: 27
Reply 21, posted (10 years 8 months 1 week 4 days 23 hours ago) and read 7273 times:

I have nothing against the designator Y for Canada (it's kinda unique!) but they should at least make them easier to guess, e.g.

YYZ -> YTO : TOronto
YUL -> YDV : DorVal, Montreal
YMX -> YMB : MeriBel, Montreal
YYC -> YCA : CAlgary
YeG -> YeD : EDmonton
YHZ -> YHF : HaliFax

I wouldn't change YVR.


User currently offlineUA744KSFO From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 22, posted (10 years 8 months 1 week 4 days 23 hours ago) and read 7270 times:

I would change our Sacramento airport from SMF to SAC and rename Sacramento Executive airport SEX. LOL!

User currently offlinePhxairfan From United States of America, joined Jun 2001, 811 posts, RR: 8
Reply 23, posted (10 years 8 months 1 week 4 days 23 hours ago) and read 7238 times:

I would rename PHX to HOT(although if there's an airport near Hot Springs it would deserve it). Also I would rename MSY to MGI, Mardi Gras International.

User currently offlineKEno From Malaysia, joined Feb 2004, 1842 posts, RR: 27
Reply 24, posted (10 years 8 months 1 week 4 days 23 hours ago) and read 7230 times:

although if there's an airport near Hot Springs it would deserve it

If you mouse-over "HOT" above, you'd get Hot Springs - Memorial Field - Arkansas.


25 Lovedswissair : I'd change all cities that only have 3 letters in the full name and use it as the city code, e.g. Goa in India should be GOA, not GOI ... of course yo
26 Post contains images MartinairYYZ : YYZ = SUX LHR = WOW Other than that, they're all alright. CYTZ maybe could be ISA
27 Cedarjet : Actually I think Toronto is YTO, at least that's the city code. Cities with more than one airport have a city code as well as airport codes - LON, NYC
28 Post contains links NWA Man : United_Fan, I was going to say the same thing... change Sioux City's code to SIE/SIO/SCI... anything but the awful SUX. Of course, the citizens of Sio
29 Post contains links and images Airsicknessbag : Comprehensive and informative past discussion about airport code changes: http://www.airliners.net/discussions/general_aviation/read.main/1112596/ Da
30 United_Fan : JGPH - commercial airports cannot start with 'N',this is reserved for the US Navy .
31 Indio66 : Here's one that we should keep: Fukuoka, Japan!
32 Post contains images Cactus739 : how about Fresno? If I were a person of size I would object to my checked baggage being marked FAT...
33 Post contains images Samurai 777 : I have nothing against the designator Y for Canada (it's kinda unique!) but they should at least make them easier to guess, e.g. YYZ -> YTO : TOronto
34 KEno : Alright I know these European airport codes are OK as they are, but I would rather have them using their native spellings rather than the english vers
35 Srbmod : Another letter US airport codes cannot start with is "X". Most "X" designated codes, much like those that start with the letter "N" are assigned to mi
36 Post contains images Blink182 : What about Vail/Eagle County (EGE) or Aspen Sardy Field(ASE) be renamed "SKI" blink
37 OzarkD9S : How about changing STL to DED!
38 Post contains images AZA330 : I would like to change Milan Malpensa: At the moment is MXP...what? an "X" in a name like Milano Malpensa? Where is the "X" in this name? I think the
39 KEno : At the moment is MXP...what? an "X" in a name like Milano Malpensa? My guess is X denotes "international" e.g. LAX, KIX, DXB
40 Post contains images Iflyatldl : Speaking of X's(no pun intended) Where the heck did they come up with LAX for LA International? The ONLY thing I could think of: Burbank was LA's orig
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