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Will The Concorde Fly Again?  
User currently offlineA380900 From France, joined Dec 2003, 1118 posts, RR: 1
Posted (10 years 9 months 1 week 2 days 20 hours ago) and read 4183 times:

What's the story with this concorde in Toulouse? It looks like they are preserving it as if it might fly again some day...

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If they have that in mind, it's no surprise that the candidate for future flights would be preserved in Toulouse.It has happened before. For the TU-144 for instance that the US have restored to fly condition. What if they want to build a supersonic in 10 years. Getting the concorde to fly again as a testbed would probably be invaluable.

Are we certain it will never fly again?

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User currently offlineConcordeBoy From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 1, posted (10 years 9 months 1 week 2 days 20 hours ago) and read 4123 times:

simply put: no

User currently offlineA380900 From France, joined Dec 2003, 1118 posts, RR: 1
Reply 2, posted (10 years 9 months 1 week 2 days 20 hours ago) and read 4086 times:

I agree it seems unlikely but could you elaborate a little. Do we know if they have kept toolings for instance? Flightsims? Some spare parts? Have they trown away everything? Why are they preserving it? I mean even the pitot tube seems protected!

User currently offlineF.pier From Italy, joined Aug 2000, 1525 posts, RR: 9
Reply 3, posted (10 years 9 months 1 week 2 days 20 hours ago) and read 4055 times:

It will fly again, for sure, maybe within 50 years, there will surely be some "rich" man who will take the Concorde inflight.

It will not surely carry passengers anymore......


User currently offlineCha747 From United States of America, joined Dec 2003, 788 posts, RR: 6
Reply 4, posted (10 years 9 months 1 week 2 days 20 hours ago) and read 4012 times:

This is verbatim from The Concorde Story: 21 years in service by Captain Christopher Orlebar:

In October 1978 the jigs used to manufacture Concorde were removed from the Brabazon Hangars at Filton for storage at Wroughton, near Swindon in Wiltshire, against the possibility that there might be a demand for more Concordes. However, the French had, by December 1977, not only removed but disposed of their jigs; with their capability gone further production of Concordes would have been an extra expense. On 31 December 1980 it was announced that the production phase of Concorde had ended, but it was not until October 1981 that disposal to scrap merchants of the stored British jigs began.

This is not to say that it could be resurrected (no mention of plans being destroyed as was widely publicized for NASA's Apollo program). Will current Concordes fly again? Who knows...perhaps if our President wants to use them to find WMD in Iraq, then maybe  Big grin In anycase, I hope we'll see another SST but I'm not sure it'll be in my lifetime. Concorde was truly an historic achievement.

[Edited 2004-03-18 19:12:58]


You land a million planes safely, then you have one little mid-air and you never hear the end of it - Pushing Tin
User currently offlineConcordeBoy From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 5, posted (10 years 9 months 1 week 2 days 20 hours ago) and read 3997 times:

I agree it seems unlikely but could you elaborate a little.

There are ten thousand and one other threads on this topic, so I'll give you a quick rundown, after which you can go to town with the search feature  Big grin

Basically:
  • the CoA has been revoked
  • parts and spares have been auctioned off to the highest bidder
  • Airbus would charge a fortune-and-a-half to remake said parts
  • trained flight/maintenance crew have been dispersed elsewhere
  • and the majority of the fleet have already found homes in museums and other airfields.

  • User currently offlineMrwayne From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
    Reply 6, posted (10 years 9 months 1 week 2 days 20 hours ago) and read 3970 times:

    NO IT WONT!!!!!

    It has now retired.


    User currently offlineDC-10 Levo From United Kingdom, joined Nov 2001, 3432 posts, RR: 3
    Reply 7, posted (10 years 9 months 1 week 2 days 19 hours ago) and read 3932 times:

    It will fly again, for sure, maybe within 50 years, there will surely be some "rich" man who will take the Concorde inflight.

    Couldn't have put it better myself.

    DC-10


    User currently offlineA380900 From France, joined Dec 2003, 1118 posts, RR: 1
    Reply 8, posted (10 years 9 months 1 week 2 days 19 hours ago) and read 3920 times:

    Let's be more precise. It has occurred to me that Concorde is not in service anymore. I am just puzzled by the obvious protection they have put on one of the aircraft in Toulouse. Is it possible that airbus is preserving one airplane, not knowing themselves whether they will ever fly it again or not? But just in case, they won't let it decay like all the others.

    [Edited 2004-03-18 19:27:05]

    User currently offlineMrwayne From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
    Reply 9, posted (10 years 9 months 1 week 2 days 19 hours ago) and read 3914 times:

    Stop dreaming they have all been cannibalized!!!!

    User currently offlineNORTHSEATIGER From United Kingdom, joined Sep 2003, 432 posts, RR: 5
    Reply 10, posted (10 years 9 months 1 week 2 days 19 hours ago) and read 3881 times:

    Whats it got to do with Airbus ??, the French connection was Aerospatiealle, I bet it is protected because they want it look good when they move it to a museum and they may want to run it occasionally (not fly !!).


    T's And P's look good....Rotate
    User currently offlineDC-10 Levo From United Kingdom, joined Nov 2001, 3432 posts, RR: 3
    Reply 11, posted (10 years 9 months 1 week 2 days 19 hours ago) and read 3841 times:

    I think Airbus provided the funding for Concorde - when that stopped there was nothing anyone could do to keep Concorde in service as it was too costly.

    DC-10


    User currently offlineConcordeBoy From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
    Reply 12, posted (10 years 9 months 1 week 2 days 19 hours ago) and read 3803 times:

    Whats it got to do with Airbus ??, the French connection was Aerospatiealle

    Out of curiousity, what do you think is the current fate of Aerospatiale?...


    User currently offlineFritzi From United Arab Emirates, joined Jun 2001, 2762 posts, RR: 2
    Reply 13, posted (10 years 9 months 1 week 2 days 19 hours ago) and read 3767 times:

    Cha747 said:

    This is verbatim from The Concorde Story: 21 years in service by Captain Christopher Orlebar:

    Christopher Orlebar was only a FO on Concorde.

    I am a bit picky today!  Big grin


    User currently offlineJustplanecrazy From United Kingdom, joined Nov 2003, 536 posts, RR: 2
    Reply 14, posted (10 years 9 months 1 week 2 days 19 hours ago) and read 3700 times:

    The only hope Concorde will fly again is if time travels in circles.


    your pilots today on this 747 flight are captain oliver hardy and assisting will be FO stan laurel.Have a safe flight
    User currently offlineCha747 From United States of America, joined Dec 2003, 788 posts, RR: 6
    Reply 15, posted (10 years 9 months 1 week 2 days 18 hours ago) and read 3626 times:

    Fritzi - ye gads...you're right! I just promoted him  Big grin


    You land a million planes safely, then you have one little mid-air and you never hear the end of it - Pushing Tin
    User currently offlineTom in NO From United States of America, joined Nov 1999, 7194 posts, RR: 33
    Reply 16, posted (10 years 9 months 1 week 2 days 16 hours ago) and read 3517 times:

    Is it possible that airbus is preserving one airplane, not knowing themselves whether they will ever fly it again or not?

    Reminds me of preserving Ted Williams. With likely the same outcome.....grounded forever.

    Tom at MSY



    "The criminal ineptitude makes you furious"-Bruce Springsteen, after seeing firsthand the damage from Hurricane Katrina
    User currently offlineFritzi From United Arab Emirates, joined Jun 2001, 2762 posts, RR: 2
    Reply 17, posted (10 years 9 months 1 week 2 days 16 hours ago) and read 3508 times:

    I find it very hard to believe that a Concorde will fly again, as the Certificate of Airwortyness has been revoked.

    User currently offlineScf158 From Switzerland, joined Dec 2003, 413 posts, RR: 0
    Reply 18, posted (10 years 9 months 1 week 2 days 16 hours ago) and read 3496 times:

    I dont think the concorde itself will fly again... get over it already!

    But, perhaps sometime in the future there will be another form of supersonic, or hypersonic travel....


    User currently offlineCaravelle From Norway, joined Aug 2000, 666 posts, RR: 1
    Reply 19, posted (10 years 9 months 1 week 2 days 16 hours ago) and read 3487 times:

    Dream on...

    - carvaelle



    Trains and boats and planes....
    User currently offlineDABZF From Germany, joined Mar 2004, 1202 posts, RR: 0
    Reply 20, posted (10 years 9 months 1 week 2 days 16 hours ago) and read 3461 times:

    Let the old lady sleep! Please!

    There once was a time when you could fly supersonic... 3 hours from LHR to JFK (was lucky enough to do that once)... but now it's gone.
    Concorde will never fly again.... let it go!

    Let the old lady sleep! Please!



    I like driving backwards in the fog cause it doesn't remind me of anything - Chris Cornell
    User currently offlineAvObserver From United States of America, joined Apr 2002, 2474 posts, RR: 9
    Reply 21, posted (10 years 9 months 1 week 2 days 13 hours ago) and read 3392 times:

    A380900, did you not catch all of the elaborate posts since last year's retirement announcement-just over a year ago, wasn't it?-made by member GDB, the guy who works for British Airways and who worked in their Concorde operation? I'd have thought his VAST espousal on the subject would have things quite clear by now. Concorde is dead-except in our memories-let it rest in peace.

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