SonicKidatBWI From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR: Posted (9 years 9 months 3 days 11 hours ago) and read 8651 times:
Please don't bite my head off because I am new to Airliners.net and don't know if there was a previous thread about this topic, but a couple of years back I saw a clip on my local news channel and they were talking about how someone was proposing buying the Eastern Air Lines name and starting new operations out of PHL (Philadelphia International). I never heard anything after that. Did anyone else hear about this and if so, what happened? Did talks fall through or what? Your POSITIVE feedback would be greatly appreciated.
TOLtommy From United States of America, joined Dec 2003, 3249 posts, RR: 4 Reply 1, posted (9 years 9 months 3 days 11 hours ago) and read 8569 times:
I don't remember anyone trying to start a new EA at PHL, but I seem to remember a similar attempt to start it at IND in the early to mid 90's. The Eastern name and Pan Am should be permanently retired!
WGW2707 From United States of America, joined Aug 2003, 1197 posts, RR: 37 Reply 3, posted (9 years 9 months 3 days 11 hours ago) and read 8508 times:
Too bad that proposed start up did not get off the ground. I have no objection to the use of former airline names when starting a new airline so long as jobs are availible to employees of the former airline and so long as the new airline makes an effort to respect the former airline. So far though none of the revival attempts have been a success except possibly Pan Am 3, which is in business and which we can only assume is profitable, although if it were to shut down I would not be overly shocked. The main problem with revived airlines is when the company reviving the airline has no business plan, or rests their entire business plan on the power of the old branding, which has almost always been the case.
A new EAL would be interesting...perhaps they can bring Colonel Borman, Frank Lorenzo and Charlie Bryan out of retirement for a re-match.
TOLtommy From United States of America, joined Dec 2003, 3249 posts, RR: 4 Reply 4, posted (9 years 9 months 3 days 11 hours ago) and read 8453 times:
"I have no objection to the use of former airline names when starting a new airline so long as jobs are availible to employees of the former airline"
Why in the world should a new EA be forced to hire fromer EA workers. Even if this was a year after the original failed, it's not the same company. Any new company should be able to hire the best possible workers, not be hamstrung with onerous rules.
Gr8slvrflt From United States of America, joined Jan 2002, 1587 posts, RR: 11 Reply 5, posted (9 years 9 months 3 days 11 hours ago) and read 8452 times:
There was a planned "New" Eastern using DC-9-31s, DC-9-51s and 757s. I think IND was proposed as a hub. My understanding is the backers went with re-starting Pan Am instead. There really is a "new" Eastern, though. It's called AirTran
SonicKidatBWI From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR: Reply 7, posted (9 years 9 months 3 days 11 hours ago) and read 8365 times:
Thanks everyone for your input. To WGW2707 I really hate the new PanAm. PanAm #2 that started in '97 or '98 with A300s was a lot more alluring to me. It seemed closer to its predessor than the crap they have running now. They have it flying out of my home airport (BWI). I haven't seen it yet and I really don't care to. It's not even called Pan American World Airways anymore. They dropped the "World". I guess it is fitting though since it only flies to a whole bunch of 3-rate U.S. airports. Thanks again.
Isitsafenow From United States of America, joined Feb 2004, 4984 posts, RR: 24 Reply 9, posted (9 years 9 months 3 days 10 hours ago) and read 8237 times:
About 1993 or 94, Martin Shagrue, the last CEO of Eastern, wanted to shape New Eastern to be a low cost carrier based in IND. The start up plan was to use 16 DC9-30 with perhaps 4 to 6 757's. He tried to sell the idea to investors and banks but had very little attention. Mr Shargue died a couple years ago. Most of those DC 9's are now with NW. Those are the ones with the Reg. number as N89--EA.
If two people agree on EVERYTHING, then one isn't necessary.
PanAm330 From United States of America, joined Mar 2004, 2649 posts, RR: 10 Reply 13, posted (9 years 9 months 3 days 8 hours ago) and read 7863 times:
I agree that the AirTran name being changed to Eastern would be quite something, AirTran would not do such a thing. They've built up a quite loyal customer base, and obviously, everything they own has "AirTran" slapped on it somewhere. Then again, they could be like UA and cross out the UNI in UNITED on their ground equipment !
SonicKidatBWI From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR: Reply 18, posted (9 years 9 months 3 days 8 hours ago) and read 7679 times:
Again I would like to thank everyone for their valuable input. I would give anything to see EAL and PANAM (excuse me . . . the REAL PANAM) back again. I would love to see the old Silver and Blue Eastern Air Lines planes shining gracefully.
LOL LOL LOL LOL!!! I love that post! "Lawn Darts"! Hillarious stuff!
Dutchjet From Netherlands, joined Oct 2000, 7864 posts, RR: 58 Reply 22, posted (9 years 9 months 3 days 7 hours ago) and read 7485 times:
Maverick M11 is right, while some of us here have fond memories of Eastern (I know that I do, my first flight as a 3 year old was from JFK to MIA on a DC8); at this point in time, most of the flying public does not really remember Eastern, and those that do remember, have harsh memories. Eastern was a great airline, but it had its labor problems, and was already having a difficult financial time when Lorenzo came in and then things only got worse. Most people only remember Eastern as that bankrupt airline (such a shame) and they are basically correct, EA went bankrupt twice and finally liquidated.
AirTran certainly has little to gain by changing its name to Eastern. AirTran, by some miracle, pulled off one name change, and I do not think that they will try their luck again.
I live in Europe, and many people do confuse AirTran, AmTransAir, Amtrak and the AirTrain @ EWR!
MaverickM11 From United States of America, joined Apr 2000, 16526 posts, RR: 48 Reply 23, posted (9 years 9 months 3 days 7 hours ago) and read 7419 times:
True true, Dutchjet, and moreover, the public could not care less if Eastern 'came back', with the exception of the nuts on this site (myself included). They tried bringing back Ozark Airlines, and the public did not even take notice, and now bringing back the wondeful Ozark experience (whatever that means) has resulted in a bunch of parked Dornier aircraft in the Midwest.