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Why Is Ryanair So Cheap To Milan  
User currently offlineEugdog From United Kingdom, joined Apr 2001, 518 posts, RR: 0
Posted (10 years 6 months 1 week 6 days 4 hours ago) and read 2644 times:

Planning to spend a week in Italy in May, Ryanair were quite expensive to Rome and Pisa at over £100 before tax (weekend flights). But to Milan (or rather Bergarmo) it is only £20 return for exactly the same flights. I thought what the heck! Enjoy the lakes of Italy before driving south to Florence (I was going to rent a car anyway). Also Bergarmo has one the most thilling views on landing as you fly over the lakes and the mountains! You have to see it to believe it

But why is Bergarmo so much cheaper then Rome or Pisa - they cannot be makeing much money on it.

The big airlines had competitive fares but to get them meant mid afternoon flights which were not as conveniant as Ryanairs early morning departures - late evening returns!!

[Edited 2004-03-24 17:27:22]

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User currently offlineJGPH1A From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 1, posted (10 years 6 months 1 week 6 days 4 hours ago) and read 2625 times:

Cue... J."McGoonicall" Pearson's "Ode to Ryanair - Oh Most Wondrous Oh Thou !"  Smile/happy/getting dizzy

[Edited 2004-03-24 17:31:40]

User currently offlineBestWestern From Hong Kong, joined Sep 2000, 7165 posts, RR: 57
Reply 2, posted (10 years 6 months 1 week 6 days 4 hours ago) and read 2608 times:

1. Because they are struggling to fill seats to Bergamo and lowering fares
2. Because Milan is traditionally a business route
3. Where there is competition people are chosing other carriers (value vs Fare)
4. Because they are a wonderful carrier - Oh most wonderous art thou!  Smile



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User currently offlineUTA_flyingHIGH From Tunisia, joined Oct 2001, 6495 posts, RR: 50
Reply 3, posted (10 years 6 months 1 week 6 days 4 hours ago) and read 2603 times:

Because they don't fly to Milan but Bergamo.

UTA



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User currently offlinePe@rson From United Kingdom, joined Jan 2001, 19233 posts, RR: 52
Reply 4, posted (10 years 6 months 1 week 6 days 3 hours ago) and read 2576 times:

Umm...BGY is slightly further from the centre of Milan than MXP (the main airport).

There is a quick and cheap coach service (about half-hourly) between BGY and Milan, which takes about 50 minutes each way.

I took a coach from both BGY to the centre and MXP to the centre. If I recall correctly, it took longer to reach the centre from MXP. There is a train service from MXP, but is naturally more expensive.

It is both quick and easy to reach the centre of Milan from BGY.

I was last in Milan (and BGY and MXP) earlier this month. Had a very good time.

Another reason for the lower fares is the season. I bet you they'll increase come July and August.

[Edited 2004-03-24 18:09:18]

[Edited 2004-03-24 18:13:15]


"Everyone writing for the Telegraph knows that the way to grab eyeballs is with Ryanair and/or sex."
User currently offlineStarlionblue From Greenland, joined Feb 2004, 17055 posts, RR: 67
Reply 5, posted (10 years 6 months 1 week 6 days 3 hours ago) and read 2534 times:

Pe@rson said:
Umm...BGY is slightly further from the centre of Milan than MXP (the main airport).


LOL Pe@rson! Understatement of the year. Also let's not forget the train service from Milan to MXP...





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User currently offlinePe@rson From United Kingdom, joined Jan 2001, 19233 posts, RR: 52
Reply 6, posted (10 years 6 months 1 week 6 days 3 hours ago) and read 2513 times:

"LOL Pe@rson! Understatement of the year."

No, not really. It's merely 9km further. What's that - 5.8 miles? No big deal, especially as it's quicker by coach from BGY to the centre of Milan than from MXP to the centre.

If you reread what I put, you'll see I said "There is a train service from MXP, but is naturally more expensive."

[Edited 2004-03-24 18:27:34]


"Everyone writing for the Telegraph knows that the way to grab eyeballs is with Ryanair and/or sex."
User currently offlineJGPH1A From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 7, posted (10 years 6 months 1 week 6 days 3 hours ago) and read 2503 times:

Let's be fair - Bergamo isn't THAT much further from MIL than MXP

MILAN (BERGAMO) ORIO AL SERIO AIRPORT
-----------------------------------------------------
GMT PLUS 0100 (PLUS 0200 30MAR03-25OCT03)

ITALY IT

POSITION OF AIRPORT : 30MLS/48KMS NE OF MILAN


MILAN MALPENSA AIRPORT
------------------------------------------------------------
GMT PLUS 0100 (PLUS 0200 30MAR03-25OCT03)

ITALY IT

POSITION OF AIRPORT : 29MLS/45KMS NW OF MILAN

Not much in it, really. And is the MXP train running yet ? If it is, it isn't a proper airport express, because it stops twice en route.


User currently offline777ualsfo From United States of America, joined Jan 2004, 104 posts, RR: 0
Reply 8, posted (10 years 6 months 1 week 6 days 3 hours ago) and read 2478 times:

I would check all airline fares. When I was in Italy last summer, it turned out cheaper to fly Lufthansa/Alitalia/Air France from FCO-CDG and from CDG-MXP than to fly Ryan air - the difference was the added fees they don't tell you about when they publish their fares and the high cost of transporation to these outlying airports which don't have the train or cheaper Malpensa Shuttle service.

User currently offlinePe@rson From United Kingdom, joined Jan 2001, 19233 posts, RR: 52
Reply 9, posted (10 years 6 months 1 week 6 days 2 hours ago) and read 2429 times:

It costs 6 Euros for a one-way ticket from BGY to the centre of Milan or vice-versa, compared to 4.5-5 from MXP to the centre of Milan or vice-versa. So not much difference.

If an airfare on a low-cost airline seems a little higher than expected, I recommend searching considerably in order to see if there's a cheaper deal. Eugdog said that he has found a STN-BGY-STN for £20, presumably including all taxes, so that won't be beaten by BA, AZ or any other airline.

When I add the cost of getting to and from the centre of Milan from BGY to the £20, it's still less than £30 - which is probably £50+ cheaper than the next cheapest deal.

[Edited 2004-03-24 19:31:34]


"Everyone writing for the Telegraph knows that the way to grab eyeballs is with Ryanair and/or sex."
User currently offlineAirblue From San Marino, joined May 2001, 1825 posts, RR: 11
Reply 10, posted (10 years 6 months 1 week 6 days 2 hours ago) and read 2428 times:

Where FR have a lot of low fares few days before the departure date, it's because they need to fill all the seats. Even if you pay only £20, for FR is better then an empty seat Big grin

User currently offlineEugdog From United Kingdom, joined Apr 2001, 518 posts, RR: 0
Reply 11, posted (10 years 6 months 1 week 6 days 2 hours ago) and read 2412 times:

I did check the air fares. As I said the airfares from the full cost carriers were about the same but with really bad times (arrivals coming late in the evening and mid morning returns). But no one came close to Ryanair to Bergarmo. Total cost was £40 vs about £150 with the other carriers. But since I intended to have a car the distance is not a problem.

User currently offlineStarlionblue From Greenland, joined Feb 2004, 17055 posts, RR: 67
Reply 12, posted (10 years 6 months 1 week 6 days 2 hours ago) and read 2401 times:

Ok, I'll grant you Bergamo, but that train worked well when I took it.


"There are no stupid questions, but there are a lot of inquisitive idiots."
User currently offlinePe@rson From United Kingdom, joined Jan 2001, 19233 posts, RR: 52
Reply 13, posted (10 years 6 months 1 week 6 days 2 hours ago) and read 2384 times:

How much was the train, S?


"Everyone writing for the Telegraph knows that the way to grab eyeballs is with Ryanair and/or sex."
User currently offlineLXsaab2000 From Switzerland, joined Feb 2004, 325 posts, RR: 1
Reply 14, posted (10 years 6 months 1 week 6 days 1 hour ago) and read 2356 times:

Hi!I live near Milan and I have to say that the distances between BGY/MXP to city center are about the same( It has no sense to say 3 or 4 KM of difference)...also it depends... in which Milan's district you start your trip..(between BGY/MXP no doubt about LIN only 6 km from city center)

For the other question (why Milan is cheaper...)
well Milan isn't so tourist as Rome so as for me low cost carriers (that serve especially leisure traffic) try making money on this routes...


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