EmiratesA345 From Canada, joined Jun 2003, 2123 posts, RR: 8
Reply 1, posted (11 years 2 months 5 days 8 hours ago) and read 6192 times:
I don't think it's true, however I'd like for it to happen. The thing is however, the same would happen with the 777's as with the 767's, as they don't take care of the aircraft as they should. (I am speaking about the interiors)
Cancidas From Poland, joined Jul 2003, 4112 posts, RR: 10
Reply 2, posted (11 years 2 months 5 days 8 hours ago) and read 6088 times:
see marek, all you think of is the interiors. i don't. what's your proof that they don't take care of thier a/c? they have a great safety record! the only problems i know they have are with thier APUs. by the way, one of the my sources has family flying for LOT, and not an ATR either.
"...cannot the kingdom of salvation take me home."
Jaws707 From United States of America, joined Aug 2001, 708 posts, RR: 1
Reply 4, posted (11 years 2 months 5 days 8 hours ago) and read 6012 times:
That would mean a lot of new routes. Currently they only have 5 767's and all of their long haul traffic to to North America. Chicago, Toronto, and New York to be more specific. They used to have long haul service to Asia, but I guess something happened where it was too expensive to fly over Russia so they cancelled that service. Hopefully they can restore some routes to Asia. I heard rumors that they were planning service to Delhi, but I am unsure what is happening with that situation. LOT was planning to fly to Miami a few years ago, where they even has signs in the airport for LOT, but nothing ever came of that idea. What is also interesting is that they can easily use the capacity of the 777 in the summer months, but they have been having problems filling up the 767's in the winter, so I wonder what their plan would be to deal with that situation.
Boeing4ever From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 9, posted (11 years 2 months 5 days 6 hours ago) and read 5648 times:
10 definitely seems high. 777 is another unlikely number. While LOT's 767 workhorses are put through their paces during the summer, LOT does experience longhaul slowdowns. What would justify buying a bigger plane...and twice as many as the current number of 767s? Not that I wouldn't want to see it happen, but...
Hamlet69 From United States of America, joined Mar 2000, 2763 posts, RR: 58
Reply 12, posted (11 years 2 months 5 days 2 hours ago) and read 5258 times:
Would be interesting to see LOT go for the 777, as it would seem to indicate plans to greatly expand their long-haul network.
Although 10 is obviously a lot of aircraft for LOT (get it?), there is a very simple answer - not all 10 would be firm orders. From personal experience, I know when rumors like this comes along, we often hear the total amount of aircraft, but it is not broken down between firm and options. Case in point - Qatar's order for 10 A340-600s, was actually 2 + 8. Similar situation could be occuring here.
Connector4you From Canada, joined May 2001, 936 posts, RR: 2
Reply 13, posted (11 years 2 months 5 days 2 hours ago) and read 5212 times:
I think a 777 would make a lot sense considering its 305 passenger seating capabilities in three classes or up to 440 on a single class ! In addition the 777 would have some 1000 km more range over the 767. That kind of capacity and range could certainly allow LOT to accommodate lower fares for a larger number of Polish travelers anywhere around the world. Even three B777 would be a good number for starting a such project.
Boeing777/747 From Belgium, joined Dec 2001, 643 posts, RR: 0
Reply 17, posted (11 years 2 months 5 days 1 hour ago) and read 4963 times:
Why Airbus, Airmale? Thought LOT was an almost "all Boeing" carrier? I know Airbus is offering their planes for sharp prices. Airbusses make less noise than Boeings (even the new generation Boeings make more noise than Airbusses).
Codeshare From Poland, joined Sep 2002, 1854 posts, RR: 1
Reply 18, posted (11 years 2 months 5 days 1 hour ago) and read 4892 times:
Whoa! 10 777s? If they're up to that they'd better get those slots in distant airports now.
They should start thinking about the replacements for the 767s. 7E7 would fit the best, but it doesn't exist yet. Next in line is the A330-200.
A 777 in a 3 class config does not make sense. Introducing the first class would be way too costly. So the business class should be beefed up. And PTVs in economy .
LOT is currently in such a state that it must decide whether it's going to be a regional airline (as in Europe only and North Africa and Middle East Asia) or a longer range airline, which can offer good transit connections to other continents.
How much A is there is Airliners Net ? 0 or nothing ?
Horus From Egypt, joined Feb 2004, 5230 posts, RR: 58
Reply 20, posted (11 years 2 months 5 days ago) and read 4772 times:
Even though its more likely they'll go for Airbuses to eventually replace its whole fleet, it would be great to see them order the 777s. Though I think 10 is way over the top for an airline that currently only operates a few 763s on its small long-haul network. Maybe the airline will try to position itself as a major Eastern European hub to compete with Vienna (and Austrian Airline).
Jumbopilot From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 21, posted (11 years 2 months 5 days ago) and read 4676 times:
I am astonished that LOT can utilize 5 B767. Is there really so much demand? And then these rumors about 10 B777? Maybe LOT should make its homework first, and then it should think about the big business.
In my eyes LOT is a regional carrier in an average manner. To get customers to countries far away it can use its partners of Star Alliance network.
Last year I had to use LOT for many travels to WAW and POZ. The quality of service (and meal) is far way from average. Often the attendants have been unfriendly, some of them really have problems with English language. Also the optical quality of the planes, especially inside the cabin. It looks a little bit uncared. Perhaps I am pampered by LH, but in the meantime I have to pay the same fares for a very different result.
Navigator From Sweden, joined Jul 2001, 1281 posts, RR: 13
Reply 22, posted (11 years 2 months 4 days 23 hours ago) and read 4625 times:
LOT seems to be very well run indeed nowadays. And if LOT thinks they should buy 777:s I think they most certainly have very good reasons for it.
LOT has come a long way in the last couple of years both in fleet management and passenger service. I think they can attract a lot (see that) of traffic coming from atlantic routes to the new member states of the EU.
I certainly believe in LOT nowadays, even if I´m not so sure about this rumor. But it could very well be true.