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Was The Starship A Failure?  
User currently offlineMaiznblu_757 From United States of America, joined Mar 2002, 5112 posts, RR: 50
Posted (10 years 4 months 1 week 1 day 12 hours ago) and read 1984 times:

And why would all these be going to the incinerator? It isnt that old.



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User currently offline727200er From Canada, joined Mar 2004, 318 posts, RR: 0
Reply 1, posted (10 years 4 months 1 week 1 day 11 hours ago) and read 1931 times:

This has been covered before but...


Business people were too conservative to buy this aircraft, so yes it was a failure.

Beech is buying the few out there back and destroying them because they have lost enough money and are not willing to deal with liability etc.



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User currently offlineL-188 From United States of America, joined Jul 1999, 29791 posts, RR: 58
Reply 2, posted (10 years 4 months 1 week 1 day 10 hours ago) and read 1920 times:

The aircraft was also a pavement hog.

Compared with a cheaper and more conventional King Air, this Starship was expensive, a lousy performer, and unconventional.



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User currently offlineMaiznblu_757 From United States of America, joined Mar 2002, 5112 posts, RR: 50
Reply 3, posted (10 years 4 months 1 week 21 hours ago) and read 1769 times:

Are there any flying anymore?

User currently offlineEMBQA From United States of America, joined Oct 2003, 9364 posts, RR: 11
Reply 4, posted (10 years 4 months 1 week 17 hours ago) and read 1686 times:

Do a search.......You'll find this was well covered a few months ago, and it will answer many of your questions.


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User currently offlineCRJDispatchKid From United States of America, joined Feb 2004, 99 posts, RR: 3
Reply 5, posted (10 years 4 months 1 week 17 hours ago) and read 1654 times:

I think the last Starship was finally bought back by Raytheon. The Starship is no longer.

And by the way, those things were LOUD.



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User currently offlineAviaar From United States of America, joined Jul 2001, 244 posts, RR: 0
Reply 6, posted (10 years 4 months 1 week 17 hours ago) and read 1609 times:

Were they unstable or unairworthy? Seems like a poor market wouldn't be the only factor contributing to its failure. I knew they weren't flying anymore, but I never knew why-if I get some feedback, it will be good to know.

If this has been talked about before, lets talk about it again right here.

Thanks for the replies ahead of time.

Edited: 10 minutes later, still no help. C'mon y'all, why did they go? By the way, I've seen some flying over my house before, right next to DFW. Haven't seen that though for about half a year at least.

[Edited 2004-03-27 03:37:21]


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User currently offlineDazed767 From United States of America, joined May 1999, 5490 posts, RR: 51
Reply 7, posted (10 years 4 months 1 week 17 hours ago) and read 1568 times:

Yes a few are still flying, I saw one earlier this week fly into MCO. Wish I would have known how 'rare' they were.

Justin


User currently offlineERJ From United States of America, joined Nov 2001, 245 posts, RR: 2
Reply 8, posted (10 years 4 months 1 week 11 hours ago) and read 1442 times:

I read an article about the Starship's retirement, and it didn't really make sense to me. It seems such a waste to retire and destroy an entire fleet of such a unique and pioneering aircraft. I've only ever seen one up close. It came into PRC about 4 years ago. Seen a few from across the field at several airports. I'll miss it. It was always the highlight of any ramp it sat on.

User currently offlineMD-90 From United States of America, joined Jan 2000, 8502 posts, RR: 12
Reply 9, posted (10 years 4 months 1 week 7 hours ago) and read 1363 times:

They were too heavy. And it was the FAA's fault, not Beech's. The FAA ruined the aircraft.

The Piaggio P-180 (developed a few years later) was much faster (395 kts max vs 330 or so for the Starship), had a much bigger cabin, and had a better payload. It was also built out of totally conventional aluminum (in a new way, though, to get that smooth composite-looking skin).

It makes sense for Raytheon to get rid of them, though. Then they don't have to support them.


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