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Was The Starship A Failure?  
User currently offlineMaiznblu_757 From United States of America, joined Mar 2002, 5112 posts, RR: 50
Posted (10 years 3 weeks 2 days 9 hours ago) and read 1961 times:

And why would all these be going to the incinerator? It isnt that old.



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User currently offline727200er From Canada, joined Mar 2004, 318 posts, RR: 0
Reply 1, posted (10 years 3 weeks 2 days 7 hours ago) and read 1908 times:

This has been covered before but...


Business people were too conservative to buy this aircraft, so yes it was a failure.

Beech is buying the few out there back and destroying them because they have lost enough money and are not willing to deal with liability etc.



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User currently offlineL-188 From United States of America, joined Jul 1999, 29690 posts, RR: 59
Reply 2, posted (10 years 3 weeks 2 days 7 hours ago) and read 1897 times:

The aircraft was also a pavement hog.

Compared with a cheaper and more conventional King Air, this Starship was expensive, a lousy performer, and unconventional.



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User currently offlineMaiznblu_757 From United States of America, joined Mar 2002, 5112 posts, RR: 50
Reply 3, posted (10 years 3 weeks 1 day 18 hours ago) and read 1746 times:

Are there any flying anymore?

User currently offlineEMBQA From United States of America, joined Oct 2003, 9364 posts, RR: 11
Reply 4, posted (10 years 3 weeks 1 day 14 hours ago) and read 1663 times:

Do a search.......You'll find this was well covered a few months ago, and it will answer many of your questions.


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User currently offlineCRJDispatchKid From United States of America, joined Feb 2004, 99 posts, RR: 3
Reply 5, posted (10 years 3 weeks 1 day 14 hours ago) and read 1631 times:

I think the last Starship was finally bought back by Raytheon. The Starship is no longer.

And by the way, those things were LOUD.



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User currently offlineAviaar From United States of America, joined Jul 2001, 244 posts, RR: 0
Reply 6, posted (10 years 3 weeks 1 day 13 hours ago) and read 1586 times:

Were they unstable or unairworthy? Seems like a poor market wouldn't be the only factor contributing to its failure. I knew they weren't flying anymore, but I never knew why-if I get some feedback, it will be good to know.

If this has been talked about before, lets talk about it again right here.

Thanks for the replies ahead of time.

Edited: 10 minutes later, still no help. C'mon y'all, why did they go? By the way, I've seen some flying over my house before, right next to DFW. Haven't seen that though for about half a year at least.

[Edited 2004-03-27 03:37:21]


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User currently offlineDazed767 From United States of America, joined May 1999, 5486 posts, RR: 51
Reply 7, posted (10 years 3 weeks 1 day 13 hours ago) and read 1545 times:

Yes a few are still flying, I saw one earlier this week fly into MCO. Wish I would have known how 'rare' they were.

Justin


User currently offlineERJ From United States of America, joined Nov 2001, 245 posts, RR: 2
Reply 8, posted (10 years 3 weeks 1 day 8 hours ago) and read 1419 times:

I read an article about the Starship's retirement, and it didn't really make sense to me. It seems such a waste to retire and destroy an entire fleet of such a unique and pioneering aircraft. I've only ever seen one up close. It came into PRC about 4 years ago. Seen a few from across the field at several airports. I'll miss it. It was always the highlight of any ramp it sat on.

User currently offlineMD-90 From United States of America, joined Jan 2000, 8494 posts, RR: 12
Reply 9, posted (10 years 3 weeks 1 day 3 hours ago) and read 1340 times:

They were too heavy. And it was the FAA's fault, not Beech's. The FAA ruined the aircraft.

The Piaggio P-180 (developed a few years later) was much faster (395 kts max vs 330 or so for the Starship), had a much bigger cabin, and had a better payload. It was also built out of totally conventional aluminum (in a new way, though, to get that smooth composite-looking skin).

It makes sense for Raytheon to get rid of them, though. Then they don't have to support them.


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