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DL 764 PTV's?  
User currently offlineJmets18 From United States of America, joined Jul 2003, 178 posts, RR: 0
Posted (10 years 7 months 1 week 3 days 13 hours ago) and read 2430 times:

Does delta have PTV's installed on their 764's???????

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User currently offlineJkudall From United States of America, joined Mar 2004, 615 posts, RR: 1
Reply 1, posted (10 years 7 months 1 week 3 days 13 hours ago) and read 2397 times:

PTV's are only available in First Class on the 764s. They should be in coach! Maybe someday.

User currently offlineUnitedFirst From United States of America, joined Jun 2001, 478 posts, RR: 2
Reply 2, posted (10 years 7 months 1 week 3 days 2 hours ago) and read 2266 times:

PTV's are only available in First Class on the 764s. They should be in coach! Maybe someday.

Delta does not have personal video screens in Economy Class; however, every seat in Economy is equipped with handsets to operate the video screen.

Derek


User currently offlineDlx737200 From United States of America, joined May 2001, 1934 posts, RR: 19
Reply 3, posted (10 years 7 months 1 week 2 days 23 hours ago) and read 2152 times:

Jmets18, by now you know that there is no IFE. I was disappointed to find this out too about a year ago when I flew my first 764 flight on DL. Here is a post I made like this one right before that flight:

http://www.airliners.net/discussions/general_aviation/read.main/1098194/


User currently offlineCOAB767 From Guam, joined Nov 2003, 1377 posts, RR: 9
Reply 4, posted (10 years 7 months 1 week 2 days 21 hours ago) and read 2065 times:

So what's the use of having those remotes on the seats in coach if they don't have PTV's? I mean if the video screens are like every 5 rows, wouldnt it get annoying to flip thru the channels if someone is watching a movie?


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User currently offlineUnitedFirst From United States of America, joined Jun 2001, 478 posts, RR: 2
Reply 5, posted (10 years 7 months 1 week 2 days 15 hours ago) and read 1964 times:

So what's the use of having those remotes on the seats in coach if they don't have PTV's? I mean if the video screens are like every 5 rows, wouldnt it get annoying to flip thru the channels if someone is watching a movie?

The handsets do not control what's on the video screen. They simply control the audio channels, and the different language tracks of the overhead video programming. They work similarly to any entertainment control panel would in connection to a normal overhead video system.

I'd say these handsets are installed in the case that Delta wants to introduce PTVs in Economy on these aircraft one day. Perhaps one day (probably not in the short term) we'll be seeing the 767-400s plying longhaul routes, and Delta will try to enhance their coach product with PTVs, like on their 777s.

Derek


User currently offlineUnited4everDEN From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 6, posted (10 years 7 months 1 week 2 days 15 hours ago) and read 1958 times:

I hope you're asking because you want the flight map and not TV programming. If not, why would you want to waste time doing something on the flight that you can easily as well do at home?

User currently offlineCAL From United States of America, joined Mar 2004, 499 posts, RR: 9
Reply 7, posted (10 years 7 months 1 week 2 days 14 hours ago) and read 1926 times:

Continental 767-400 Coach, Wish Delta would step up.


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User currently offlineGigneil From United States of America, joined Nov 2002, 16347 posts, RR: 85
Reply 8, posted (10 years 7 months 1 week 2 days 11 hours ago) and read 1865 times:

If not, why would you want to waste time doing something on the flight that you can easily as well do at home?

When you're at home, you can do many other things than watch tv.

On a plane, your choices are extremely limited.

You can pretty much do anything you could do on a plane at home, except look out the window.

N


User currently offline2cn From United States of America, joined Aug 2001, 648 posts, RR: 0
Reply 9, posted (10 years 7 months 1 week 2 days 10 hours ago) and read 1837 times:

They use the same handsets for commonality purposes only. Rather then have two sets of handsets on the same plane (the PTV type in First, the regular arm chair style or w/e in coach) they decided to have a comonality throughout. Perhaps there is also a connection to possible instalation of the PTVs, but I remember reading/hearing that it was due to the comonality in some employee thing.

User currently offlineAeroAussie From United States of America, joined Dec 1999, 264 posts, RR: 0
Reply 10, posted (10 years 7 months 1 week 2 days 10 hours ago) and read 1812 times:

Continental 767-400 Coach, Wish Delta would step up.

WISH is the operative word here. CO will always have DL beat no matter what they do. CO has managed to install PTVs across their entire long-haul fleet, and even UA managed to equip their inter-continental 767s with PTVs in coach. If UA can pull it off, DL certainly should have been able to, (although the current financial situation doesn't really build a case for doing so) but the reality of the situation is that DL will always be a second rate carrier as far as service and comfort are concerned.

-Nick


User currently offlineAeroAussie From United States of America, joined Dec 1999, 264 posts, RR: 0
Reply 11, posted (10 years 7 months 1 week 2 days 10 hours ago) and read 1811 times:

And with regards to the above, yes I understand that CO had their fleet delivered with PTVs whereas DL would have to install new seats on their 763s. Nonetheless, I think there is no excuse for not having their 764s delivered without the PTVs installed. Shame on you, Delta.

-Nick


User currently offlineBobnwa From United States of America, joined Dec 2000, 6500 posts, RR: 9
Reply 12, posted (10 years 7 months 1 week 2 days 4 hours ago) and read 1739 times:

What would Delta gain by spending millions installing PTV's on their 767-400. I imagine the good will of a few members of this forum, but most all regular passengers could care less. The airline(not Delta) with the highest load factor in the industryyear after year only has PTV on a few of its planes.

After reading most of the postings, I have a few questions. Don't any of you ever read a book? That's what most passengers do for entertainment on a flights I have been on. Do you watch TV or play video games every available minute while at home? Where does reading a good book fit into your lives?


User currently offlineAZFAN777 From United States of America, joined Jul 2003, 16 posts, RR: 0
Reply 13, posted (10 years 7 months 1 week 2 days 4 hours ago) and read 1713 times:

I was disappointed in the fact that they didnt have ptv's on the 767-400 on my flight to orlando last week. does delta use the 400 series on transatlantic flights?

User currently offlineIndustrialPate From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 14, posted (10 years 7 months 1 week 2 days 4 hours ago) and read 1673 times:

I was disappointed in the fact that they didnt have ptv's on the 767-400 on my flight to orlando last week. does delta use the 400 series on transatlantic flights?

No, DL does not.

And you're 'disappointed' that a flight (ATL-MCO) that's less than an hour in duration (from when they'd turn the TVs on until when they'd turn them off) didn't have PTVs?!?! Wow -- maybe I fly longhaul too much, but I find flights an hour in duration too short to even read...


User currently offlineUnitedFirst From United States of America, joined Jun 2001, 478 posts, RR: 2
Reply 15, posted (10 years 7 months 1 week 2 days 2 hours ago) and read 1609 times:

Nonetheless, I think there is no excuse for not having their 764s delivered without the PTVs installed. Shame on you, Delta.

Considering the fact that the 767-400 really is doing no intercontinental flying, there's no need for PTVs.

Of course, they do serve Hawaii, but no other airline in the Hawaii-US market is currently offering PTVs (besides Continental, of course – and United when they have to do last minute equipment changes).

Derek


User currently offlineDeltaMIA From United States of America, joined Feb 2004, 1672 posts, RR: 17
Reply 16, posted (10 years 7 months 1 week 2 days 2 hours ago) and read 1603 times:

"Continental 767-400 Coach, Wish Delta would step up"

Why would DL need to install these. CO and DL's aircraft are entirely two different machines. CO bought theirs to replace transatlantic aircraft and DL bought theirs to replace high density domestic routes. Had DL purchased these to replace an aging fleet of transoceanic aircraft then they would have the PTV's. But why waste the money to have them go ATL-CO / KMCO), USA - Florida">MCO and ATL-FLL when the only option anyway would be airshow or Horizons video. Doesn't make much business sense to me. Seems like a big waste when they would be vastly under utilized.



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User currently offlinePhollingsworth From United Kingdom, joined Mar 2004, 825 posts, RR: 5
Reply 17, posted (10 years 7 months 1 week 2 days 1 hour ago) and read 1550 times:

If Delta were to order more 764s and use them exclusively for transoceanic routes, my guess is they would have PTVs. I think the only thing the current ones lack are the screens, and associated controllers in the seats, these would cost a pretty penny, but I believe all of the certification work and the like has been done. Of course we are likely to see this happen about the same time that DL redoes the interiors on the 763ERs to match that of the 772s.

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