United_Fan From United States of America, joined Nov 2000, 7639 posts, RR: 6 Posted (11 years 8 months 1 week 2 days 4 hours ago) and read 3969 times:
The reason I ask , is that I just book my flight to LAS . I used my UA Mileage Plus miles for a free (well $10.00) trip . I wasn't going to use them,(the miles),but $550 is more than I wanted to spend now. I figure I've been flying them for 4 years now,and I deserved a freebee.
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Pilottim747 From United States of America, joined Jul 2001, 1607 posts, RR: 4
Reply 1, posted (11 years 8 months 1 week 2 days 3 hours ago) and read 3940 times:
I don't feel quilty because the airlines have capacity control. It seems there are fewer and fewer seats available for frequent flier tickets. I'm almost up to earning a free ticket to Europe on Northwest. I looked, just for fun, the other day for space to Hawaii or Europe so I could use the ticket. I searched for quite a while to HNL, OGG, and several cities in Europe. Nothing was available to be booked. Can't feel real quilty about that.
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Deltaffindfw From United States of America, joined Sep 2003, 1484 posts, RR: 0
Reply 2, posted (11 years 8 months 1 week 2 days 3 hours ago) and read 3888 times:
I don't know if I would call it guilt, but I hesitate to use miles. I have this stupid theory that I don't need to spend 25,000 miles to fly a short distance like DFW-ATL to visit friends. I rationalize that paying $250 is better!
Dutchjet From Netherlands, joined Oct 2000, 7864 posts, RR: 56
Reply 3, posted (11 years 8 months 1 week 2 days 3 hours ago) and read 3851 times:
Guilty? NO WAY! The mileage programs were created to reward frequent flyers who "earned" their miles by flying with that airline or using service offered by the airline partners, and the fun part is cashing the miles in for travel. I save miles for longer trips, in business class, where otherwise the fares would be far too expensive for me to pay out of my pocket.
JBirdAV8r From United States of America, joined Jun 2001, 4498 posts, RR: 19
Reply 4, posted (11 years 8 months 1 week 2 days 2 hours ago) and read 3832 times:
I accrue a fair amount, but I donate all mine to Make-A-Wish and other charitable organizations. There are a whole lot of people in this world who want/need to fly places more than I do. It's the very least I can do.
SHUPirate1 From United States of America, joined Sep 2003, 3670 posts, RR: 15
Reply 7, posted (11 years 8 months 1 week 2 days 2 hours ago) and read 3757 times:
I remember, about two weeks after US Airways had emerged from bankruptcy, getting VDBed from a PHF-CLT flight...I got a free roundtrip ticket voucher, and needed a ticket from LGA to AGS for the summer (keep in mind, that the dates I needed to go precluded a Saturday stay), and was asked if I was a millionaire, because the price of the ticket was $1300...needless to say, I was more than happy to use the "Get Out Of New York Free" card on that trip...
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Myk From Canada, joined Jul 1999, 455 posts, RR: 0
Reply 8, posted (11 years 8 months 1 week 1 day 22 hours ago) and read 3673 times:
The funny thing is, as long as I was a student, I almost immediatly spent my first 20000 miles for a trip between Paris and Germany. Now that I have approx. 100 000, I am more and more miserly to spend them and I refuse to spend 20000 miles just for a domestic flight. I think that the best thing is to accumulate till I can ask for a transpacific or transatlantic business ticket. The price difference makes it really a good deal !
LTBEWR From United States of America, joined Jan 2004, 13695 posts, RR: 17
Reply 10, posted (11 years 8 months 1 week 1 day 5 hours ago) and read 3461 times:
NO WAY...Now you may be guilty if used the miles for an upgrade insteaad of a trip later, or being greedy and trying to save up for the Hawaii trip, but this is a motivation program for you to use a particular airline. You don't have any guilt buying something at Walmart vs. a local store do you or using coupons at a store? If I can get a free flight once after taking a number of flights, if got the miles on a cheap vacation flight, then fine.
Jcs17 From United States of America, joined Jun 2001, 8065 posts, RR: 36
Reply 14, posted (11 years 8 months 1 week 18 hours ago) and read 3330 times:
No. I paid for my tickets myself and if the airline offers free tickets then I am going to take full advantage of it. Because I have paid for about ten trips, I think the airline can afford to give me a free trip in return.
JGPH1A From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 18, posted (11 years 8 months 1 week 11 hours ago) and read 3194 times:
You should NEVER feel guilty using FF miles - you've earned them, let the airline honour their commitment in return. They are banking on most FQTV not redeeming all their mileage, and put every possible obstacle in place to prevent you from doing so (except if your Top Tier Super Platinum Deluxe) - so do your best to disappoint them. There are literally trillions of unused FF miles out there, and if everyone decided to use them all at once, every airline with a program would go bankrupt immediately. Hence stringent capacity controls make it IMPOSSIBLE for all FF to use their miles.
Airbear From Australia, joined May 2001, 648 posts, RR: 1
Reply 19, posted (11 years 8 months 1 week 11 hours ago) and read 3174 times:
United_Fan... rest easy pal! You are doing them a favour by using your points.
All those millions & millions of unused Miles are accounted for by all airlines, as Current Liabilities, Accrued Liabilities, or some similar account title, and are given a nominal $-value. Too many unused points "out there" stick out like sore thumbs on their Balance Sheets.
The more miles used, the better. Up to a point, of course. That's where the Yield Management systems come into the picture - to provide a proper balance on any given flight, between revenue earned (in all classes), and freebies given away. If there is a seat available as a freebie on a flight, it is there after careful consideration. Sure, they'd love to sell the seat, but they also want to reduce that Liability.
Also, they know/hope that you'll be back with your real $$$ next time.
Regis From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 21, posted (11 years 8 months 1 week 6 hours ago) and read 3096 times:
My impression is that the word "guilty" here was not used in the sense of feeling bad for "hurting" the airlines by using one's FF miles instead of paying for a ticket, but guilty in the sense of wasting your miles, of the dilemma between cashing in on your FF miles or saving them for a rainy day.
It takes me about two years of flying with my FF carrier (SWISS) to earn the 70,000 miles needed for a transatlantic award in coach. So yes I feel bad when I think that my two-year effort in saving FF miles will suddenly evaporate in one trip. But then the prospect of bankruptcy in the airline industry is very high, so the thought of losing my FF miles in a liquidation offsets my guilt for using them while the airline is still operating.
Bobb From United States of America, joined Jan 2004, 246 posts, RR: 0
Reply 23, posted (11 years 8 months 1 week 3 hours ago) and read 2982 times:
About spending your miles on the wrong trip...
WN's frequent flyer program doesn't count miles. When you get a free ticket, it's good for anywhere WN flies. So potentially you could spend your free ticket for a $70 trip vs spending on a $300 trip. In the old days then those "free" coupons were paper and totally transferable, you could, and I think many did, sold them at eBay for the WN max $300 - 50. Now however, they are electronic and not as easy to transfer.
KaiGywer From United States of America, joined Oct 2003, 12320 posts, RR: 33
Reply 24, posted (11 years 8 months 1 week 1 hour ago) and read 2927 times:
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After this summer, I will have 50.000 NW miles. What should I do? Spend them on two domestic roundtrips? Or 2 transatlantic upgrades? If I do an upgrade, is it good from origin to destination, or only the overseas segment. Example, if I fly RST-MSP-DTW-JFK-AMS-OSL-AMS-DTW-MSP-RST, will all of those be in F/WBC? I am more likely to afford to buy roundtrip domestic tickets, than overseas business...
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: KaiGywer -- definitely cash in on the upgrade opportunity. I can't think of many domestic flights that are worth 25,000 miles.
: Thanks everyone . I didn't feel that guilty I will be spending money to fly on UA to LAX or SNA in July (for ai2004!!) and then probably out to SEA i
: I always hesitate to use my miles, but the last 50k I spent was completely worth it! I cashed in the miles to fly my sister and her husband to Boston
: Why would you feel guilty? You earned the miles, use them!
: I might have to fly down to GSO next weekend. Right now, the cheapest airfare is about $350, and it would be me going with another person. DL has SkyS
: I upgraded my wife to FC last week (she was coming out 2 days after me) without telling her. She had been up late the night before and had a 7:35 flig