BlackBox From United States of America, joined Mar 2004, 41 posts, RR: 0
Reply 2, posted (10 years 11 months 1 week 4 days 21 hours ago) and read 4279 times:
Looks like all the overhead bins are open - that's why the ceiling looks low. Appears as though the photographer was either first on or last off the plane when he took the photo, and all the bins are lowered.
The cabin does look rather dull and institutional in this photo. I think it's the lighting of the photo, because I've found United's interiors to be more inviting than this picture depicts.
DeltaMD11 From United States of America, joined Dec 2002, 1701 posts, RR: 32
Reply 4, posted (10 years 11 months 1 week 4 days 21 hours ago) and read 4214 times:
I'd beg to differ on the lack of service statement. In the past UA service was mediocre at best, but I have to say that recently I've been nothing but impressed by UA. My most recent trip with UA was on UA264 SAN-DEN-PHL on DEC 31 of 2003.
A good friend of mine just flew SYD-LAX, LAX-DEN, DEN-DFW, DFW-DEN-LAX-SYD again with UA and he said that overall he was impressed---moreso than flying with QANTAS.
Also I'd like to remind you that those overhead bins are in the down position. The ceilings are actually quite large in the 744. Not to mention, the gentleman who is taking the picture is standing up.
Too often we ... enjoy the comfort of opinion without the discomfort of thought. - John Fitzgerald Kennedy
Tripseven From United States of America, joined Mar 2001, 72 posts, RR: 0
Reply 5, posted (10 years 11 months 1 week 4 days 20 hours ago) and read 4061 times:
I just finished a trip to Asia involving the following segments on UA744s:
I also did a roundtrip LAX-AKL a few years back.
While I admit that picture looks really bad, it must be a combination of the angle, the fact the center bins are down, and the strong flash that washed everything out and makes it look the way it does. The service was good on my flights and I'd say the whole experience on UA was better than expected.
One of my segments was on Asiana Airlines from SGN-ICN. That was a bad experience. Small seats, ugly interior, rude staff... ICN is a great airport though.
Pilottim747 From United States of America, joined Jul 2001, 1607 posts, RR: 5
Reply 6, posted (10 years 11 months 1 week 4 days 20 hours ago) and read 3979 times:
I like the UA 744s. Granted they don't have PTVs in coach, but otherwise I think they're great. The cabin is just as bit as spacious as other B744s (expect the ERs, of course). I flew United SFO-PEK and HKG-ORD back in 2000, no complaints. United, IMHO, has some of the best service of all the American airlines.
ContinentalEWR From United States of America, joined May 2000, 3762 posts, RR: 13
Reply 7, posted (10 years 11 months 1 week 4 days 20 hours ago) and read 3967 times:
UA's 747-400's are actually quite nice. They are somewhat plain inside, and the absence of PTV's in Economy is a bit disappointing, but the cabin interiors are actually almost always crisp, clean, and there is nothing that would make the experience any less comfortable than on a comparable airline, that flies 747-400's without PTV's and bright, bold interiors. I flew UA 747-400's from JFK to NRT and back and the experience was quite pleasant.
Syncmaster From United States of America, joined Jul 2002, 2049 posts, RR: 10
Reply 10, posted (10 years 11 months 1 week 4 days 18 hours ago) and read 3591 times:
I thought I saw somewhere that this was probably going to be one of the first thigns they changed when they exited Chapter 11.....adding PTV's in particular to bring the 744's up to par with other airlines. In particular Asian airlines as most all of them already have them...and that's the largest market for the UA 744's. Europe belonging to the 763 and 772, which already have PTV's.
Kevin752 From United States of America, joined Jul 2003, 733 posts, RR: 4
Reply 11, posted (10 years 11 months 1 week 4 days 18 hours ago) and read 3514 times:
I do not really like the interior on any of thier planes because the livery on the outside ruins everything. NOW the livery is being changed so my thoughts on the cabin are changing. I really liked the 747-200 with the grey and blue livery. They looked the best in that livery for some reason. I hope that United keeps gracing out skies. I think that United has the same WONDERFUL service that Lufthansa has and I love lufthansa to death.
Skydrol From Canada, joined Oct 2003, 1012 posts, RR: 9
Reply 12, posted (10 years 11 months 1 week 4 days 17 hours ago) and read 3425 times:
No problems with the grey color scheme to me... much more relaxing than bright red anyday. At least there is something other than hard, white or beige plastic to look at. What I hate is plastic-backed seats! Count me in with those who do not like spending a flight looking at PTVs or airphones.
Nethkt From Thailand, joined Apr 2001, 1097 posts, RR: 3
Reply 15, posted (10 years 11 months 1 week 1 day 8 hours ago) and read 2635 times:
Sleeping should be something you do at home.
I don't think seats on airplane are for sleeping, unless you fly Flat bed First/Business.
Those people who sleep without doing anything on 15 Hrs flights are those who will get DVT. Wish you all the best.
I also can't stand 744 without PTVs...gosh!!
UA Economy might be sux, but I still love ther F and C products. I used to fly ID on F and C United a lot...go UA!!!
TranStar From United States of America, joined Jul 1999, 530 posts, RR: 0
Reply 16, posted (10 years 11 months 1 week 1 day 7 hours ago) and read 2511 times:
You all are very spoiled travelers. There was indeed a time before PTVs, indeed decades of intercontinental jet travel without PTVs.
I once did 24 hours of travel from Australia to the US without PTVs in the 1980s. We read, slept, or talked. Ultimately, we survived. When Pan Am launched 747SP service on the JFK-Tokyo route, there were no PTVs in any class.
I traveled on UAL to Korea last year in coach without PTVs on their 747-400s. Their services was very nice, good food, free booze, and quite comfortable seats.
I think with the cost challenges facing the world's legacy airlines in all countries, I think people should face the reality that service perks will be diminishing over the long-term. As more and more of the world's population demand air travel at lower costs, something is going to have to give.
What US airlines have faced in the last few years and, indeed, decades, will eventually occur on a global scale. Even Asian carriers with their very high level of service will eventually face lower-cost competition within their region and will be faced with the same cost-cutting choices that US carriers hace faced over the past twenty years.
It is important to remember that the US was the first country to initiative deregulation of its domestic airline industry. The rest of the world has really only just begun this process. Better enjoy the frills and extras while they last.
AAJAXFlyer From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 17, posted (10 years 11 months 1 week 1 day 6 hours ago) and read 2398 times:
I mean, I've never flown in a plane with PTVs but I can't imagine 15 hours of just sleep and reading in coach.
You can't occupy yourself in one spot for 15 hours?
I for one am glad that United has an unintrusively dull color scheme inside and am thankful for the lack of PTVs. I don't use a PTV even when I have one, and would rather not have the entertainment system box taking up underseat space and PTVs around me flashing in the dark cabin.
Tbear815 From United States of America, joined Jun 2003, 704 posts, RR: 4
Reply 21, posted (10 years 11 months 1 week 1 day 2 hours ago) and read 2015 times:
All these goings-on about PTV's....Transtar said it right, BUT there was a time in the distant past that airlines didn't offer IFE AT ALL. Even the timetables in those days specifically mentioned a "reasonable" amount of reading material was allowed along with a carry-on. Try being a kid crossing an ocean with nothing to do. I do remember the adults doing a good job with the cocktails.....However, we got there!
Ltuemployee2 From Germany, joined Jul 2001, 28 posts, RR: 0
Reply 22, posted (10 years 11 months 1 week 21 hours ago) and read 1734 times:
Well, back then adults and kids alike were also able to enjoy a conversation, good food (because food was available in better amounts and quality than today) and the view. Today it seems like torture for a child to live without video games for a while. Also, the seats at that time allowed you to comfortably sit and read...