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Are You Afraid Of Flying?  
User currently offlineBofredrik From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Posted (10 years 5 months 4 weeks 17 hours ago) and read 2657 times:

I am. To get in to tubulence and have to use the bag...I check the weather and winds carefully and cnl if it looks to bad. And if the tubulence come anyway do i want to get off! NOW! That is how it feels. I have been flying a lot, 200-300 r/t flights, but nothing more i can do at age 44. I have no problems with the a/c itself because i know a lot about flying. But i do not know so much about the weather... Yes, i have had some nasty experience with turbulence, thunder, heavy wind etc. But i am honest! Afraid? Yes.

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User currently offlineStarlionblue From Greenland, joined Feb 2004, 17044 posts, RR: 67
Reply 1, posted (10 years 5 months 4 weeks 16 hours ago) and read 2626 times:

The front lobes of my brain tell me everything is fine. Yes, I do know that it is perfectly safe so please don't post just to tell me this  Big grin

The reptile brain tells me that the wing is about to snap off.

I'm pretty good with most things, but turbulence makes me a bit nervous. Breathing deeply, in through the nose and out through the mouth, with eyes closed helps. I also try to visualize the fear leaving my body when I breathe out.

Never stopped me from flying though. I refuse to live in fear.



"There are no stupid questions, but there are a lot of inquisitive idiots."
User currently offlineCoa764 From United States of America, joined Feb 2004, 328 posts, RR: 3
Reply 2, posted (10 years 5 months 4 weeks 16 hours ago) and read 2586 times:

It is a control issue and most folks do not like situations were they feel out of control. On a plane you have no control of your environment so when you feel those bumps it can be nerve racking. Now compared with driving, your behind the wheel and in control right? Try this, stand at a busy overpass or exchange during a peak traffic period and watch all the controlled chaos. To me that is scarier then any flight I have ever been on.

My best advise is just keep doing it and without checking all the variables and you will get to the point were it does not bother you as much or even become routine. Also make sure you bring something along to occupy your time be it reading material or your laptop. This way you won't be sitting there trying to over analyze all those tiny sounds and movements.



Please oh please Mr Moderator Nazi, dont delete my thread.
User currently offlineSallecc From Hong Kong, joined Mar 2004, 56 posts, RR: 1
Reply 3, posted (10 years 5 months 4 weeks 16 hours ago) and read 2556 times:

You know what, guys:

I never had that problem, until... untill I saw those terrible photos of that burned-out SQ plane at Taipei airport, and read whole story about it...
I don't know what's worser, those photos, or detailed stories from the fire-fighters, and it happened during the damn take-off, on the ground!!!

O man, o man, it maked me so creepy, that I couldn't even think about flying for weeks... Now I'm okay  Wink/being sarcastic

Cheers,

Sasha from Bosnia


User currently offlineStarlionblue From Greenland, joined Feb 2004, 17044 posts, RR: 67
Reply 4, posted (10 years 5 months 4 weeks 15 hours ago) and read 2522 times:

Sallecc, I agree with it being a transitory thing, at least for me.

After 9/11, with the bombardment of images for a while, I was really scared for about a year. Ironically I was not scared of hijackings, just of turbulence.

I'm much better now.



"There are no stupid questions, but there are a lot of inquisitive idiots."
User currently offlineJGPH1A From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 5, posted (10 years 5 months 4 weeks 15 hours ago) and read 2501 times:

I'm not, but I know a lot of people who are, for a variety of reasons

- My mom - her mom was killed in a mid-air collision in 1972, for 30 years after that she couldn't get on a plane by herself, and would drug herself senseless once on board. She got over it, but it took a really long time.

- My cousin - she flew Ariana PRG-KBL-DEL during the civil war in Afghanistan, and got trapped at KBL during a rocket attack. She had to hide under the furniture in the airport. When the plane eventually left it got chased down the runway by jeeps with machine guns - she was terrified, and took a really long time to get back into flying again.

- Various relatives who are very claustrophobic and have real issues when the plane door closes - they've most of them managed to get over it, and are happy they managed it. You can't by without flying these days.

So there's all sorts of reasons, mostly its a bad experience. I hope it never happens to me (touch wood !).


User currently offlineStarlionblue From Greenland, joined Feb 2004, 17044 posts, RR: 67
Reply 6, posted (10 years 5 months 4 weeks 15 hours ago) and read 2492 times:

I'm pretty claustrophobic AND agoraphobic, but planes have never affected me that way. Lock me in a dark closet in the basement though, and I have a brown trouser moment in short order.

I'm agoraphobic in the sense of being scared of heights. The top of the late WTC was the worst. The fact of being able to see the other tower made you realize just how far up you were. Yech. The London Eye is not so hot either.

But I force myself to do these things over and over. I refuse to live in fear.

I think that planes do not induce fear of heights since they are so "disconnected" from the ground. Even when skydiving, I would comfortably dangle one leg out the door from 100ft and all the way up (it was crowded in there). The ground looks like a map anyway until you've almost landed.



"There are no stupid questions, but there are a lot of inquisitive idiots."
User currently offlineCatatonic From United Kingdom, joined Mar 2004, 1155 posts, RR: 3
Reply 7, posted (10 years 5 months 4 weeks 15 hours ago) and read 2500 times:

I hate flying, I have panic attacks for weeks before flying and I cant get on the plane unless im suitable sedated! In May im having to fly once to Gatwick on BA and then onto Palma with MYT and I am dreading it, stupid thing is they have sneakily included the price of and inflight meal on our trip and theres no way I can eat in a plane!!! I have to know all about the plane before I get on it but the thing about MYT is that they don't tell you what aircraft its going to be until you get to the gate and I don't want to get on their DC-10. My auntie was in the Britannia flight from Cardiff to Gerona which crashed on the runway and then after September 11th I cant help looking for dodgy looking Arabs getting on the flight which makes me worse cos I want to sit next to them to make sure that they don't start striking matches against their shoes (im not racist in any way, and im sorry for this attitude but I cant help it!) once I am up in the air im not too bad and I can generally get a hold of myself (plenty of times I nearly lost good holidays cos I almost couldn't get on the plane!!) I hate turbulence I think the planes coming apart and I hate sitting next to someone who's as nervous as I am. That film, A view from the top, when shes on her first flight as an FA and she thinks the wheels have dropped off THATS ME!!!  Nuts


Equally Cursed and Blessed.
User currently offlineLHcapt2007 From United States of America, joined Mar 2004, 235 posts, RR: 0
Reply 8, posted (10 years 5 months 4 weeks 15 hours ago) and read 2481 times:

I'd rather die fighting than on my knees. Hundreds of lives depend on a pilot smiling right back at death when anything bad happens, as us we all know the old phrase flying is hours of boredom followed by seconds of sheer terror.
There's two kinds of "being afraid": the kind where you let your feelings overcome your wits or the kind where you accept the fear and get the job done. Bad turbulence = slow to safe maneuvering speed or "swear,prayer and close your eyes".
I am afraid. Yes when the wing falls off i think ill chose fear first, and hopefully the prayer will work...
cheers,
LHcapt2007



TNCM
User currently offlineSallecc From Hong Kong, joined Mar 2004, 56 posts, RR: 1
Reply 9, posted (10 years 5 months 4 weeks 15 hours ago) and read 2475 times:

That Taipei SQ thing is always in my mind, man, I had to delete those damn photos from my database, to start feeling better...

About turbulence, I never think of it, until it comes actually! Then it's usual procedure: everyone is quiet, seems calm, BUT when we all hear that "ding!" sound for taking-off our seat-belts, then all of us remember all jokes, laugh and sing, joy and happiness everywhere, hah hah hah!
Easy to forget, but when it comes, turbulence can get pretty nasty...


User currently offlineStarlionblue From Greenland, joined Feb 2004, 17044 posts, RR: 67
Reply 10, posted (10 years 5 months 4 weeks 15 hours ago) and read 2472 times:

Catatonic. That sounds terrible, but I know a couple of people who are almost like that. I would suggest a course to treat this. Most major airlines have them, although they are not widely advertised. The SAS one is about £500 and goes over two days. It ends with a "graduation flight". I have spoken to some crew about this. Apparently most of the graduates feel incredibly good after the course, and completely safe on planes thereafter.

I'm pretty sure BA does the same.

I know that if I was as scared as you seem to be, I would happily shell out the money.



"There are no stupid questions, but there are a lot of inquisitive idiots."
User currently offlineJGPH1A From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 11, posted (10 years 5 months 4 weeks 15 hours ago) and read 2464 times:

BA do have fear of flying courses, at least they used to - I hear they are very good.

User currently offlineLHcapt2007 From United States of America, joined Mar 2004, 235 posts, RR: 0
Reply 12, posted (10 years 5 months 4 weeks 14 hours ago) and read 2429 times:

Catatonic
Interesting perspective and very respectable. Try a benzodiazepine, such as Ativan - it's a legal drug that depresses the central nervous system, so basically it is the REAL "chill pill". If you're not that desperate you can always just drink yourself to the clouds (just a possibility,not a suggestion). There are so many ways to deal with fear, if only they weren't so costly.

Understanding how much brainwork goes into every flight is reassuring for the skiddish skytraveler. But don't forget, it was too much info that created most of those fears in the first place - 9/11 videos/reports, crashes on the news, learning about all the things that could go wrong. Think about all the other things in life you're afraid of because of experience. Why can little kids do a black diamond their first day of skiing? Why is the inexperienced 30 year old the one who's afraid when looking down the slope? The older man knows and has probably experienced what COULD happen. The kid is oblivious.

Cheers




TNCM
User currently offlineStarlionblue From Greenland, joined Feb 2004, 17044 posts, RR: 67
Reply 13, posted (10 years 5 months 4 weeks 14 hours ago) and read 2412 times:

To inaccurately quote "Will & Grace":
Will: "I refuse to fly with you. All that screaming."
Grace: "I will have you know that 100 people opening their peanut bags at the same time sounds a lot like the wing falling off!"


Found this on the BA website: "British Airways supports the course run by Aviatours (01252 793250) which includes a short flight of approximately one hour duration conducted by a highly experienced British Airways training captain, following preparation by an eminent clinical psychologist."


[Edited 2004-03-30 14:15:50]

[Edited 2004-03-30 14:16:05]


"There are no stupid questions, but there are a lot of inquisitive idiots."
User currently offlineHigh_flyr69 From Australia, joined Apr 2001, 510 posts, RR: 0
Reply 14, posted (10 years 5 months 4 weeks 14 hours ago) and read 2375 times:

i am by no means afraid of flying, I wake up every morning and realise there are hundreds of other things more likely to kill me than an aircraft. i feed off adrenalin so i really enjoy a nice bit of turbulence, it just pissed me off when the catering service is canceled.
cheers
high_flyr69



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