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Virgin Seating Charts. Incorrect...  
User currently offlineStarlionblue From Greenland, joined Feb 2004, 17039 posts, RR: 66
Posted (10 years 5 months 3 weeks 3 days 10 hours ago) and read 2333 times:

So I was trying to get good monkey class seats on the VS A346.

Poring over the seating chart at http://www.virgin-atlantic.com/our_story_our_fleet.view.do, I chose 47ac or 47kh. Two seats by ourselves, bulkead behind. Lovely.

Sarah, my long-suffering travel agent, checked the system and answered: "There is no row 47, it jumps to 51".

Eeeeh. Ok.... Now, going over to http://www.frequentflyer.oag.com/airlines_airports/seatchart.asp?image=../images_air/VIRGIN%2D600%2Egif&desc=Airbus+A340%2D600&airline=Virgin+Atlantic I see that she is correct. Row 46 is in fact the last one.

I didn't want to risk it, so in the end I chose 65ac, which both the booking system, Virgin and Frequentflyer agree is "back to the bulkhead".

So my question is: What's going on?

I also checked the A343 (for another flight) and the booking system shows no 65ac, but the Virgin site and Frequentflyer do.


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User currently offlineJGPH1A From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 1, posted (10 years 5 months 3 weeks 3 days 9 hours ago) and read 2317 times:

I wouldn't advise sitting that far back in an A340 - the last few rows tend to have slightly narrower seats and limited recline in the very last row. Try and get row 46.

User currently offlineStarlionblue From Greenland, joined Feb 2004, 17039 posts, RR: 66
Reply 2, posted (10 years 5 months 3 weeks 3 days 9 hours ago) and read 2308 times:

But can we be sure that row 46 is in fact the last row of that section?

Thx for the tip JGPH1A. Narrow and limited recline is ok with us. We're pretty small. Also, it's only LHR->JFK so it's not really a very long flight.

[Edited 2004-03-30 13:21:12]


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User currently offlineFunFlyer From United States of America, joined Aug 2003, 866 posts, RR: 0
Reply 3, posted (10 years 5 months 3 weeks 3 days 9 hours ago) and read 2278 times:

I see row 47, don't you? Its the very last middle section in the section, it shows no row number though.


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User currently offlineStarlionblue From Greenland, joined Feb 2004, 17039 posts, RR: 66
Reply 4, posted (10 years 5 months 3 weeks 3 days 9 hours ago) and read 2263 times:

It is in the middle, but I was only interested in side sections of 2 people. Seems that 47ac and 47kh are on the Virgin website, but not in the booking system. And I don't want to book 46ac or 46kh only to find that there is a 4 year old behind me just waiting to use my spine as a kettledrum all the way over the pond.

I think I'll stick with 65ac....



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User currently offlineJGPH1A From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 5, posted (10 years 5 months 3 weeks 3 days 9 hours ago) and read 2261 times:

Looking at the VS seatmap for VS009, it looks like Y class goes from rows 35-42, then 54-65. Possibly the map they published to OAG is not accurate. I think rows 41 port side and row 42 starboard side are the last rows in the forward cabin, on the A346

User currently offlineStarlionblue From Greenland, joined Feb 2004, 17039 posts, RR: 66
Reply 6, posted (10 years 5 months 3 weeks 3 days 9 hours ago) and read 2242 times:

Thx JGPH1A!!!

My travel agent will kill me if I want to change AGAIN though  Big grin I think last row of the plane could be a bit noisy due to the lav, but since there is PTV at least I don't have to sleep just to pass the time. I love books, but after 2-3 hours I want to do something else. 65ac it is.

BTW on AF 777, the last row rocked bigtime. 2 seats, full recline and the aisle behind it (next to the toilet) was "narrower" so nobody bumped the aisle seat. Very cozy.


Related question: Can I use my normal headphones on the VS A346, or do I need the "two plug" airplane kind?



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User currently offlineJGPH1A From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 7, posted (10 years 5 months 3 weeks 3 days 9 hours ago) and read 2229 times:

Don't be afraid of your T/A - she's earning her tragic 0.000001% commission off VS, don't worry. Or just call VS and have them do it (always safest anyway, especially for carriers hosted in Shares B ! Intersystem messaging is not a forte !  Smile/happy/getting dizzy )

User currently offlineStarlionblue From Greenland, joined Feb 2004, 17039 posts, RR: 66
Reply 8, posted (10 years 5 months 3 weeks 3 days 9 hours ago) and read 2213 times:

Again, great info.

However, my original question remains: Is the Virgin seatmap on their site 100% correct?



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User currently offlineSevenHeavy From United Kingdom, joined Mar 2004, 1156 posts, RR: 9
Reply 9, posted (10 years 5 months 3 weeks 3 days 7 hours ago) and read 2142 times:

Hi,

The answer to your original question is yes Virgin's on-line seat charts are basically correct. However they only display a generic seat map for their A340-300/600'S. I think this is partly because Vs frequently swap A340 types (especially to the US east coast) according to demand. Also only 60% of seating will ever show as this is the maximum amount that VS, and indeed most other airlines, will pre-allocate.
Also it was earlier mentioned that the last rows have narrower seating and less recline. This is not strictly correct. The seats are exactly the same size throughout the cabin. The cabin does narrow towards the back, but you also lose a seat in each row so there is no compromise with regard to seat width. With regard to recline, it is only the last row (64-65) That has limited recline.
Below are the seating numbers for each repective aircraft:

A340-600, Economy rows 31-65, excluding rows 48-50 (there is a row 47!)
A340-300, Economy rows 41-65, (no exclusions)

Hope this helps,

regards,

SevenHeavy



So long 701, it was nice knowing you.
User currently offlineStarlionblue From Greenland, joined Feb 2004, 17039 posts, RR: 66
Reply 10, posted (10 years 5 months 3 weeks 3 days 6 hours ago) and read 2117 times:

Helps a lot thx Heavy. 65ac it is then. And if it's horrid, it's no more than 7h55m.


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User currently offlineSevenHeavy From United Kingdom, joined Mar 2004, 1156 posts, RR: 9
Reply 11, posted (10 years 5 months 3 weeks 3 days 6 hours ago) and read 2086 times:

No problem, Those seats are not too bad but if you do want to change post or email me your travle dates and I will have a look at the system and see what else is available

Regards

SevenHeavy



So long 701, it was nice knowing you.
User currently offlineStarlionblue From Greenland, joined Feb 2004, 17039 posts, RR: 66
Reply 12, posted (10 years 5 months 3 weeks 3 days 5 hours ago) and read 2051 times:

Thx!!!

Still, your mail is withheld. Hehe. There is an email and a guestbook on my website.



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User currently offlineVS346 From United States of America, joined Mar 2004, 339 posts, RR: 1
Reply 13, posted (10 years 5 months 3 weeks 3 days 5 hours ago) and read 2034 times:

Starlionblue, you can bring your own headphones if you wish (but why would you since you get the killer virgin headphones in the complementary bag!)

Keep the pen though, and mail it to me if you dont want it, I collect them.  Smile/happy/getting dizzy

You will absolutely love the lavs, I promise! Everything is new and clean and BLUE! Excellent.

Also the last few rows for the 346 go up in an angle and you get higher angle of attack in the last row. The illusion gives you the impression of more space which can be nice.

Wish I was in your place.. Happy flying!

VS346



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User currently offlineSevenHeavy From United Kingdom, joined Mar 2004, 1156 posts, RR: 9
Reply 14, posted (10 years 5 months 3 weeks 3 days 5 hours ago) and read 2020 times:

Sorry I always forget that little detail  Smile.

I have sent you an email with my details.

Regards,

SevenHeavy



So long 701, it was nice knowing you.
User currently offlineStarlionblue From Greenland, joined Feb 2004, 17039 posts, RR: 66
Reply 15, posted (10 years 5 months 3 weeks 3 days 5 hours ago) and read 2019 times:

Hehe, thx all. My Sony noise cancellation phones rock bigtime and fit my ears, but I'll try the Virgin ones.

Actually it'll be one way for me. Staying on the other side of the pond. But my wife is coming back on the 744 a few weeks later. Yes she will be rejoining me ASAP.



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