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First Dogfights  
User currently offlineSchweizair From United States of America, joined Mar 2004, 139 posts, RR: 0
Posted (10 years 12 months 2 days 16 hours ago) and read 1168 times:

Does anybody know how the first dogfights occurred? It is said that since the pilots had no weapons, all they could do was shout "yo momma" jokes and give the finger, etc. What happened next? Did some genius cook up the idea of bringing a few rocks to hurl at his enemy or did they pack handguns in the cockpit? Did they also try to fling grenades at each other? There is no documented evidence of this that I can find. In what year did they get the idea of mounting a machine gun anywhere on the plane? What country did it and what kind of machine gun/plane was used?

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User currently offlineStarlionblue From Greenland, joined Feb 2004, 17280 posts, RR: 67
Reply 1, posted (10 years 12 months 2 days 16 hours ago) and read 1138 times:

The first dogfights were with pistols. Pretty inaccurate stuff.

"There are no stupid questions, but there are a lot of inquisitive idiots."
User currently offlineGr8slvrflt From United States of America, joined Jan 2002, 1616 posts, RR: 10
Reply 2, posted (10 years 12 months 2 days 16 hours ago) and read 1120 times:

According to Tom D. Crouch in his excellent new book, Wings, the first air-to-air kill was on October 5th, 1914 when a French Voisin shot down a German Taube. "Dogfighting" began in earnest in 1915.

User currently offlineCarduelis From United Kingdom, joined Dec 2001, 1586 posts, RR: 10
Reply 3, posted (10 years 12 months 2 days 16 hours ago) and read 1100 times:

It doesn't answer the question, but, for an enjoyable yarn, see if you can get a copy of 'The Blue Max' with George Peppard, and Ursula Andress (of Bond's 'Dr No' fame)! Terrific airborne dogfight stuff!

From BBC Film site:-


Or - for a later film:-


Per Ardua ad Astra! ........ Honi Soit Qui Mal y Pense!
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