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Youngest B747 Captain?  
User currently offlineHenpol747 From Mexico, joined Jun 2001, 588 posts, RR: 1
Posted (10 years 8 months 3 weeks 2 days 9 hours ago) and read 10263 times:


I hope this thread has not been posted before. We know Mike Bannister has been the yougest captain on concorde (28 if I´m correct). Now, who has been the youngest captain on a 747 (and what age)?

B747skipper, maybe you could give us a hand with this one!!  Laugh out loud


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User currently offlineBofredrik From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 1, posted (10 years 8 months 3 weeks 2 days 9 hours ago) and read 10122 times:

Youngest female (B747) Captain
Jamile Costa (Atlas Air) at the age of 30

That is what i found. But no male.



User currently offlineHenpol747 From Mexico, joined Jun 2001, 588 posts, RR: 1
Reply 2, posted (10 years 8 months 3 weeks 2 days 9 hours ago) and read 10074 times:

Well, well,well, 30 is not bad at all, isnt it? thanks bofredrik!

Henpol747



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User currently offlineEGFFbmi From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 3, posted (10 years 8 months 3 weeks 2 days 9 hours ago) and read 10036 times:

If i'm correct..

I believe it's a British Airways pilot.. I remember that he's from Wales in the UK.. but I can't remember his name!

I could be wrong!

Anyway!

Regards,

Chris/Milo


User currently offlineChema From Spain, joined Mar 2004, 17 posts, RR: 0
Reply 4, posted (10 years 8 months 3 weeks 2 days 9 hours ago) and read 9995 times:

And the youngest B747 F/O?

User currently offlineBoeing757/767 From United States of America, joined Jun 1999, 2282 posts, RR: 1
Reply 5, posted (10 years 8 months 3 weeks 2 days 9 hours ago) and read 9989 times:

I know a Captain at Atlas Air who was about 28 when he moved to the left seat a couple of years ago. (I also know the above-mentioned female Capt.)


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User currently offlinePe@rson From United Kingdom, joined Jan 2001, 19259 posts, RR: 52
Reply 6, posted (10 years 8 months 3 weeks 2 days 9 hours ago) and read 9981 times:

"I remember that he's from Wales in the UK"

My housemate - who's offically from England but has lived in Wales for 25+ years and speaks fluent Welsh - at uni always says that scientists and all the good people originate (or their families) in Wales. Looks like you're the same.  Big grin Just kidding.

[Edited 2004-04-02 21:11:25]


"Everyone writing for the Telegraph knows that the way to grab eyeballs is with Ryanair and/or sex."
User currently offlineHenpol747 From Mexico, joined Jun 2001, 588 posts, RR: 1
Reply 7, posted (10 years 8 months 3 weeks 2 days 9 hours ago) and read 9950 times:

Chema:

I don´t have the answer, but what I do know is this: be very wellcome to A.net forums!!!

Amigo: bienvenido!!

Henpol747

 Big thumbs up



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User currently offlineType-rated From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 8, posted (10 years 8 months 3 weeks 2 days 9 hours ago) and read 9854 times:

I remember back in the 80's TWA had a guy that made 747 Captain at 26. He was a real mover and a shaker until he got involved in the drug trade. IIRC, he was fired from TWA and executed gangland style in some sleazy, no-tell motel a few years later. I think even 60 minutes or 20/20 did a story on him.
(For those not in the U.S., these are documentary, expose type shows).


User currently offlineStarlionblue From Greenland, joined Feb 2004, 17173 posts, RR: 66
Reply 9, posted (10 years 8 months 3 weeks 2 days 9 hours ago) and read 9827 times:

BTW FYI the Skipper had a note in his profile saying he refused to post until the "SKipper 747SP" thread is reinstated, but he's changed that now.


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User currently offlineChema From Spain, joined Mar 2004, 17 posts, RR: 0
Reply 10, posted (10 years 8 months 3 weeks 2 days 9 hours ago) and read 9735 times:


Gracias Henpol!

Another question:

What about the older?


User currently offlineBofredrik From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 11, posted (10 years 8 months 3 weeks 2 days 9 hours ago) and read 9705 times:

We have CBS "60 min" in Sweden, once a week. David Letterman, Conan Obrien, Jay Leno etc. Curb your enthusiasm, Frasier, Ed, Days of our lives,
Ricki Lake, Everybody loves Raymond, Grounded for life, Sabrina etc etc...
AND Who wants to marry a millionaire. I DO!


User currently offlineHenpol747 From Mexico, joined Jun 2001, 588 posts, RR: 1
Reply 12, posted (10 years 8 months 3 weeks 2 days 8 hours ago) and read 9616 times:

About the oldest I´m not sure, but the captain that was flying the United 747 that had an inflight cargo door explosion (with 9 pax sucked out of the aircraft) in HNL retired a couple of years after the accident in his well late sixties!! Anybody to confirm this?


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User currently offlineB747skipper From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 13, posted (10 years 8 months 3 weeks 2 days 8 hours ago) and read 9564 times:

I do not have any specifics about "the youngest captain" on 747.
I would say in the 27-29 bracket could be possible.
I knew a check captain (747 instructor/examiner - who was 36)
That was with Evergreen Airlines.
xxx
Realize that you must be 23 to hold an ATPL licence.
That is the licence required to be a captain with an airline.
So that would be the youngest age for any captain (any type aircraft).
xxx
I remember Continental Airlines late 1960s...
They had some pilots 21 and 22 unable to be captain, because of age.
Also heard the same story about PSA...
xxx
Now, you can be a private pilot at 18... right...?
If your daddy is filthy rich, he can offer you a PPL + type rating on a 747.
That still counts as "captain 747"...
xxx
Happy contrails  Big grin
(s) Skipper


User currently offlineFoxBravo From United States of America, joined Nov 2003, 3008 posts, RR: 4
Reply 14, posted (10 years 8 months 3 weeks 2 days 8 hours ago) and read 9422 times:

At the rate "VSGirl" was going, she was on track to become the youngest 747 captain...  Smile


Common sense is not so common. -Voltaire
User currently offlineBellerophon From United Kingdom, joined May 2002, 585 posts, RR: 59
Reply 15, posted (10 years 8 months 3 weeks 2 days 8 hours ago) and read 9315 times:

Henpol747

...We know Mike Bannister has been the yougest captain on concorde (28 if I´m correct)....

No, we don't know that, because it isn't correct.

Nor, to be fair to him, has he ever claimed to be.

He was the youngest co-pilot in BA ever to qualify on Concorde, but he was not the youngest Captain.

He left the fleet after several years, to take his first command on another aircraft type, and didn't return to Concorde as a Captain until later in his career, ending up as BA's Chief Concorde Pilot.

The British tend to use the word pilot in a general sense, meaning any pilot on a crew, encompassing both Captains and F/Os.

Some other parts of the world only use the word pilot in its literal sense, to mean only a pilot-in-command, and not a co-pilot.

I suspect this is where some confusion may have arisen.


Regards

Bellerophon


User currently offlinePIA777 From United States of America, joined Dec 2003, 1738 posts, RR: 6
Reply 16, posted (10 years 8 months 3 weeks 2 days 7 hours ago) and read 9055 times:

"About the oldest I´m not sure, but the captain that was flying the United 747 that had an inflight cargo door explosion (with 9 pax sucked out of the aircraft) in HNL retired a couple of years after the accident in his well late sixties!! Anybody to confirm this"

They just had a show on this tragedy on Discovery the other day the show was called "Ripped from the Sky". The Captain was 2 months from retirement not a couple of years. Thats the sad part because he need all of his experience to land the plane. I think 60 is too young for retirement.

PIA777



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User currently offline777gk From United States of America, joined Jun 2000, 1641 posts, RR: 18
Reply 17, posted (10 years 8 months 3 weeks 2 days 7 hours ago) and read 9041 times:

I'm sure all you A.net old timers will agree with me that it was TIMOBEAR, apparently a 30-year-old UA 747-400 Captain...

I never got the chance to command a 747 flight, but I've flown around enough in the other two seats to know that there was a certain prestige to it, especially back in the 1970s when the 747 was first introduced.


User currently offlineLeezyjet From United Kingdom, joined Oct 2001, 4042 posts, RR: 53
Reply 18, posted (10 years 8 months 3 weeks 2 days 6 hours ago) and read 8957 times:

I knew a guy who was ex SAAF and he joined Caledonian Airways as a Capt on the L10-11 and he was only 27 at the time.

Was a good looking guy too, all the hosties were trying to land him, even though he was married to - a Caledonian hostie !!!.

 Smile



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User currently offlineHenpol747 From Mexico, joined Jun 2001, 588 posts, RR: 1
Reply 19, posted (10 years 8 months 3 weeks 2 days 6 hours ago) and read 8850 times:

Bellerophon:

Thank you for the information and the correction. Very appreciated!!!

 Big thumbs up



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User currently offlineGoboeing From United States of America, joined Jun 2000, 2725 posts, RR: 15
Reply 20, posted (10 years 8 months 3 weeks 2 days 6 hours ago) and read 8758 times:

I've heard of a 25 year old 747 captain at UPS about 10-15 years ago. He is now on the A-300 I think and is #1 seniority at the age of 40.

Nick


User currently offlineSevenHeavy From United Kingdom, joined Mar 2004, 1156 posts, RR: 9
Reply 21, posted (10 years 8 months 3 weeks 2 days 6 hours ago) and read 8698 times:

Virgin had/has a captain who got his B744 command at 30 I believe. I think he was flying B742's even before that. I believe he started his career really young with Dan-Air and just worked his way up. This was the same captain that featured on one of the "from the flightdeck" videos on a B744 routing LHR-SFO. I think he still works for virgin but would be nearer 40 now as he flew the B744 fleet right from the start

Regards,

SevenHeavy



So long 701, it was nice knowing you.
User currently offlineDc863 From Denmark, joined Jun 1999, 1558 posts, RR: 2
Reply 22, posted (10 years 8 months 3 weeks 2 days ago) and read 8382 times:

SAA had several captains in their mid 30s flying 747s in 1975/76.

User currently offlineDB777 From United States of America, joined Apr 2001, 885 posts, RR: 43
Reply 23, posted (10 years 8 months 3 weeks 1 day 23 hours ago) and read 8314 times:
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I believe, but I could be off by a year or two, that Paul Havis was 29 when he was captain on 74's for PeoplExpress. Paul produced a couple of interesting aviation videos, notably "How they fly the Concorde" and the new DVD version "How they flew the Concorde." He continued flying 74's for CO for a while after they absorbed PE until they integrated the seniority list. He's now a 777 Captain at CO based at EWR.


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User currently offlineUsair320 From United States of America, joined Nov 2003, 991 posts, RR: 2
Reply 24, posted (10 years 8 months 3 weeks 1 day 15 hours ago) and read 8107 times:

747 skipper, In the USA you can have your ppl(private pilot licence) at 16 as I am 13 and just started flying in a cessna 152.

Regards, Gage


25 L-188 : Yeah, I remember reading a story about the UPS guy. Apparently he got hired right when they first started their operation.
26 Loggat : Usair320: Just a small correction, you can be 16 to solo, but you must be 17 to get your license in the US. Good luck in your training.
27 Accidentally : Usair320: Sec. 61.103 - Eligibility requirements: General. To be eligible for a private pilot certificate, a person must: (a) Be at least 17 years of
28 Post contains images B747skipper : Dear USair320 - xxx Could not remember the minimum age for PPL, CPL in USA, it is all in FAR 61. But I trained a "filthy rich" kid (and very nice guy)
29 Rg828 : One time when I travelled FRA-HKG on CX in the early 90's the Captain was very senior, but the FO was 18 yrs old, and was going to do his first landin
30 B741 : I flew an Elite 757 and the co-pilot looked green. I was 28 at the time and guessed he was 26 but I am not good at guessing age. He said he was just o
31 Post contains images B747skipper : When I flew my first PanAm trip as a captain 727, age 33, we were in a bar in MIA. I had to pay a few rounds to my crew, 36th Street NW... the "Pilot
32 Kl911 : '''747 skipper, In the USA you can have your ppl(private pilot licence) at 16 as I am 13 and just started flying in a cessna 152.''' Haha, what a joke
33 Post contains images MD11LuxuryLinr : DB777.. That's great news about Paul Havis. I always wondered what happened to him after Continental sucked up PeoplExpress. I have one of his videos.
34 Post contains images Accidentally : Well, KL911...its not impossible. I started at 14, delivered newspapers to pay...had only like two lessons a month, but I just wanted to fly. I decide
35 Bobs89irocz : Dang Skipper, your son is in one great position......being able to ge the chance to fly the 747 sim. Great stuff. My flight instructor i use at the mo
36 JvW : Here is the story on Ed Maxwell, who lives here in Louisville and flies his (now) A300 from SDF and GA aircraft out of Bowman Field (LOU). I had the c
37 Post contains images B747Skipper : I flew with Ed Maxwell, once or twice (he was a F/O) on a DC8... I would have asked his drivers license if he drove a car... looked too young to be of
38 Goboeing : Skipper, I sent you an e-mail with the address through your profile. Nick
39 B747Skipper : Please thanks - (s) Skipper
40 SoAmSky : B747skipper, Dow you know captain Polanco from Aerolineas Argentinas? He use to host an aviation show.
41 ANA777Master : With the fantastic simulators that are out these days, I'm sure a teenager could fly the 747 with a monitor onboard.
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