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Question: Is This A319 Landing Or Taking Off?  
User currently offlineTAP1972 From Portugal, joined Dec 2003, 396 posts, RR: 3
Posted (9 years 1 month 3 weeks 3 hours ago) and read 3339 times:

Hi Guys

One question regarding the pic below.

Is this A319 landing or taking off? And why?


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I think it's landing, but I may be wrong. What do you think?


Sam

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User currently offlineCvervais From United States of America, joined Sep 2003, 600 posts, RR: 3
Reply 1, posted (9 years 1 month 3 weeks 3 hours ago) and read 3265 times:		 Support Airliners.net - become a First Class Member!

I vote for taking off. The flaps don't seem extended enough for a landing.

User currently offlineLHR340 From United Kingdom, joined Apr 2003, 877 posts, RR: 1
Reply 2, posted (9 years 1 month 3 weeks 3 hours ago) and read 3260 times:

Looking at the flaps it looks like takeoff. There is also no smoke from the tires so it doesn't look like a landing.

LHR340


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User currently offlineB747skipper From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 3, posted (9 years 1 month 3 weeks 3 hours ago) and read 3241 times:

Dear Sam -
xxx
I do not know the Airbus, but I looked at it by curiosity.
One detail, seems awful little amount of TE flaps extention for a landing.
Besides, its main gear is on the ground, normally some spoilers should deploy.
I would venture to say, it is on rotation for takeoff.
Maybe if you compare to other A-319/320 pictures of landing/takeoffs...
xxx
Happy contrails  Smile
(s) Skipper

User currently offlineOsubuckeyes From United States of America, joined Mar 2004, 189 posts, RR: 0
Reply 4, posted (9 years 1 month 3 weeks 3 hours ago) and read 3219 times:

I would think taking off, because flaps arent retracted that far, the spoilers arent up yet, and you would probably see the smoke from the tires if it had just landed.

User currently offlineJrMafia90 From United States of America, joined Mar 2004, 216 posts, RR: 0
Reply 5, posted (9 years 1 month 3 weeks 3 hours ago) and read 3135 times:

It is definitely taking off. No questions asked.

User currently offlineBofredrik From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 6, posted (9 years 1 month 3 weeks 3 hours ago) and read 3072 times:

I can see the heat from the engines so it is a take off.

User currently offlineNdebele From Germany, joined Apr 2001, 2895 posts, RR: 25
Reply 7, posted (9 years 1 month 3 weeks 3 hours ago) and read 3047 times:

The photo was taken on FRA's runway 18 - and this runway is only used for take-offs, never for landings.

User currently offlineGodBless From Sweden, joined Apr 2000, 2751 posts, RR: 18
Reply 8, posted (9 years 1 month 3 weeks 3 hours ago) and read 3031 times:

The picture is taken at Rwy 18, and that is only used for taking-off.

Max

User currently offlineTripseven From United States of America, joined Mar 2001, 72 posts, RR: 0
Reply 9, posted (9 years 1 month 3 weeks 3 hours ago) and read 2963 times:

The "give away" for me that it is taking off is that the tail plane flaps (right word?) seem to be angled just slightly upward.

User currently offlineTAP1972 From Portugal, joined Dec 2003, 396 posts, RR: 3
Reply 10, posted (9 years 1 month 3 weeks 3 hours ago) and read 2927 times:

Guys

Thanks very much for your posts, looking carefully again to the picture and taking into consideration your comments I'm convinced.

Thanks to all and a special thanks to B747skipper.

Rgds

Sam

User currently offlinePW100 From Netherlands, joined Jan 2002, 1983 posts, RR: 10
Reply 11, posted (9 years 1 month 3 weeks 2 hours ago) and read 2758 times:

Compare to this A321 landing [note spoilers are being deployed]:

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The take-off gets my vote . . .

PW100


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User currently offlineAA737-823 From United States of America, joined Mar 2000, 5340 posts, RR: 11
Reply 12, posted (9 years 1 month 3 weeks 2 hours ago) and read 2683 times:

Incidentally, you can't judge by the horizontal stabilizer position (above referred to as "tail plane flaps"). During landing, they're guenerally deflected upward as well, as a landing is a controlled stall into the ground.

R

User currently offlineHigh_flyr69 From Australia, joined Apr 2001, 510 posts, RR: 0
Reply 13, posted (9 years 1 month 3 weeks 1 hour ago) and read 2589 times:

very little use of flap, no spoilers, no thrust reverse . That plane is taking off.
cheers
high_flyr69


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User currently offlineContinental From United States of America, joined Jun 2000, 5476 posts, RR: 21
Reply 14, posted (9 years 1 month 3 weeks ago) and read 2439 times:

"Thanks to all and a special thanks to B747skipper."

Why special thanks to skipper?? The people above said the same thing before he posted!!

I'd say thanks to Ndebele, since he figured out first it was runway 18, and that 18 is only used for takeoffs!!

User currently offlineLVZXV From Gabon, joined Mar 2004, 2041 posts, RR: 44
Reply 15, posted (9 years 1 month 2 weeks 6 days 13 hours ago) and read 2224 times:

The give away is the elevator position. On landing, the entire horizontal stabiliser is deflected up a few degrees due to nose up trim, but on take-off, less is required so the angle of the elevators in the photo, plus the neutral stab. setting, and the flaps, indicate rotation.

XV






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User currently offlineSNBA319 From Netherlands, joined Oct 2003, 298 posts, RR: 0
Reply 16, posted (9 years 1 month 2 weeks 6 days 11 hours ago) and read 2046 times:

Yes the elevator position was my bet aswell....

However i just wanna add how much i like the special livery..... Big grin

User currently offlineRes From United States of America, joined Jul 2000, 417 posts, RR: 1
Reply 17, posted (9 years 1 month 2 weeks 6 days 2 hours ago) and read 1821 times:

guys, he's in a hover






FLY NAVY
User currently offlineStefandotde From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 18, posted (9 years 1 month 2 weeks 6 days 2 hours ago) and read 1789 times:

As Ndebele wrote: this pic is taken on 18 West at FRA. And 18 West is only for take off. So no doubt: take off.

User currently offlineBr715-a1-30 From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 19, posted (9 years 1 month 2 weeks 5 days 22 hours ago) and read 1663 times:

That bloomin' bus is departing. Why? Why? you ask? So it can get to the next destination  Smile
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