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User currently offlineN730AS From United States of America, joined Apr 2004, 126 posts, RR: 3
Posted (10 years 4 months 2 weeks 6 days 9 hours ago) and read 1576 times:

I was making plans to fly in June, and was using the AS timetable program to pick the route I wanted. I wanted to fly on one of their 737 combi a/c, and saw that they use the designation "73M" for it. After searching some more (to find the time I wanted to depart) I saw the "73S" designation. I was under the impression that "73S" was a normal (not a combi a/c) 737-200. Could this be one of the BP/ARCO "Shared Services Aviation" flights? I was also sure that AS didn't own any 73S's. Do they own the BP/ARCO charter A/C? Do they operate the BP/ARCO charter flights? Thanks in advance.


N730AS (s/n 22577) 737-290C Registered Jun-29-1981
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User currently offlineHikesWithEyes From United States of America, joined Jan 2004, 816 posts, RR: 7
Reply 1, posted (10 years 4 months 2 weeks 6 days 7 hours ago) and read 1529 times:

The 73S is one of the combi 737-200s.
The S means that it the flight you are looking at will
probably be operated in an all passenger configurations-
111 seats and no cargo loaded in the pallet positions.
The 73M means that it could be in 2/3/5 pallet configuration,
with cargo in the upper deck.
All of the 737-200s operated by Alaska are convertible, there
are none dedicated to passenger only service.



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User currently offlineL-188 From United States of America, joined Jul 1999, 29792 posts, RR: 58
Reply 2, posted (10 years 4 months 2 weeks 6 days 5 hours ago) and read 1494 times:

N730AS, if you pick out just about any of the Alaska bush destinations, Bethel, Deadhorse, Nome, Kotzebue, Dillingham, King Salmon, Yakatat, Cordova, Barrow, it is going to be pretty much a sure bet you will be on one of the -200's.

The smaller the village the more likely.



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User currently offlineMicknix From United States of America, joined Mar 2004, 19 posts, RR: 0
Reply 3, posted (10 years 4 months 2 weeks 6 days 4 hours ago) and read 1483 times:

Alaska flies the 737 comb's within Alaska. They do not fly them in the continental US.

I flew AS for the first time in September on a 737-400 from YVR-SFO. They have the best service on any domestic airline.


User currently offlineCarfield From United States of America, joined Dec 2003, 1910 posts, RR: 9
Reply 4, posted (10 years 4 months 2 weeks 6 days 3 hours ago) and read 1451 times:

73M is the Boeing 737 Combi...
They flew within Alaska and some flights to certain Alaskan coastal cities from Seattle.

It is certainly an interesting plane to fly.

Carfield


User currently offlineL-188 From United States of America, joined Jul 1999, 29792 posts, RR: 58
Reply 5, posted (10 years 4 months 2 weeks 6 days 3 hours ago) and read 1431 times:

Mickmix, I wouldn't go for quite that positive of a statement.

I know that they do sometimes get tasked for the Milkrun down to Seattle.



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User currently offlineSupraZachAir From Northern Mariana Islands, joined Feb 2004, 634 posts, RR: 0
Reply 6, posted (10 years 4 months 2 weeks 6 days 2 hours ago) and read 1422 times:

Flew on one from FAI-ANC last month and it was really cool. Kinda nice having so much head room (what with the tiny overhead compartments). Seats are more cramped though. Best part is boarding from outside via the rear stairs.

User currently offlineAirframeAS From United States of America, joined Feb 2004, 14150 posts, RR: 24
Reply 7, posted (10 years 4 months 2 weeks 6 days 2 hours ago) and read 1402 times:

They flew within Alaska and some flights to certain Alaskan coastal cities from Seattle.

Very, very, very rare that they fly south of SEA. It will only happen if it has to swap a/c.




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User currently offlineL-188 From United States of America, joined Jul 1999, 29792 posts, RR: 58
Reply 8, posted (10 years 4 months 2 weeks 6 days 2 hours ago) and read 1390 times:

Yes, rarely.

But I do recall that 746AS did spend most of a summer flying in the lower 48 before it was brought north after it was purchased in 1994.



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User currently offlineMizzou65201 From United States of America, joined Dec 2000, 196 posts, RR: 0
Reply 9, posted (10 years 4 months 2 weeks 6 days 1 hour ago) and read 1369 times:

Yes, frequently AS 64 is 73M, which goes ANC-JNU-PSG-WRG-KTN-SEA. AS 65 returns as SEA-KTN-WRG-PSG-JNU-ANC.

The other "milkrun" is AS 66 ANC-CDV-YAK-JNU-SEA. Returns as AS 61, reverse routing.



User currently offlineCanoecarrier From United States of America, joined Feb 2004, 2839 posts, RR: 12
Reply 10, posted (10 years 4 months 2 weeks 6 days 1 hour ago) and read 1352 times:

I flew 61 from CDV-ANC, I'm sure the A/C is the same as Mizzou65201 said from SEA-ANC (with stops). It was my first run in a combi, great experience.


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User currently offlineN730AS From United States of America, joined Apr 2004, 126 posts, RR: 3
Reply 11, posted (10 years 4 months 2 weeks 5 days 17 hours ago) and read 1322 times:

Yes, I have flown on Alaska's "73M" before. I was really hoping that the "73S" that was in Alaska's timetable program was the BP/ARCO Charter to BRW, but I guess it is just a combi aircraft filled with no pallets in the main cabin (HikesWithEyes gave a very clear response).

L-188: If I'm not mistaken, didn't N746AS just get put into storage in the desert?



N730AS (s/n 22577) 737-290C Registered Jun-29-1981
User currently offlineL-188 From United States of America, joined Jul 1999, 29792 posts, RR: 58
Reply 12, posted (10 years 4 months 2 weeks 5 days 7 hours ago) and read 1270 times:

I don't know, AirframeAS or EA CO AS are going to be able to give a better answer then I can.

I know that AS got N746AS in 1994 when I was working there from Markair and I believe some of their combi's where bought from Boeing directly. So there is a chance that 746AS may be a fairly young bird.

They took it down to Seattle, worked on it, gave it a paint job and then kept it flying down there until the end of the season, before it was brought up to Anchorage, right before I got laid off.



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User currently offlineCactus739 From United States of America, joined Jan 2004, 2444 posts, RR: 31
Reply 13, posted (10 years 4 months 2 weeks 5 days 7 hours ago) and read 1252 times:

N730AS

Last time I flew home I took AS 143 from ANC to FAI. That was a 737-200 that was in all coach layout... The flight was continuing on to either Barrow or Prudhoe Bay. There were about 20 people on the plane and I was the only one getting off in FAI. You might be able to get your 73S on that flight... but I'd imagine it could switch from all passenger to passenger/cargo from day to day...




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User currently offlineN730AS From United States of America, joined Apr 2004, 126 posts, RR: 3
Reply 14, posted (10 years 4 months 2 weeks 5 days 7 hours ago) and read 1249 times:

Thanks for all the answers. Well I must stir this topic up some more. Why would AS call a full passenger "73M" flight a "73S", when those designations are for the particular A/C, not the layout of the A/C in question?


N730AS (s/n 22577) 737-290C Registered Jun-29-1981
User currently offlineHikesWithEyes From United States of America, joined Jan 2004, 816 posts, RR: 7
Reply 15, posted (10 years 4 months 2 weeks 3 days 12 hours ago) and read 1192 times:

Various replies/comments:

I think the 73M stands for mixed config and 73S is "seats"
as in all seat configuration.

746 is parked at Mojave. Search photos for "Alaska Airlines"
and you will see it there....sort of sad, but time marches on.

It is no longer BP/ARCO...the latest merger/buy/conglomeration
is "Conoco/Phillips". At any rate, sometime in June the contract will
no longer be Alaska's. I believe that Northern Air Cargo is taking over.
Those 2 737-200s are not combis...they are all passenger 200s leased
from Braathens/SAFE (spelling?) from Norway.



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User currently offlineBCAInfoSys From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 16, posted (10 years 4 months 2 weeks 3 days 11 hours ago) and read 1190 times:

I'm just going to chime in that it was less then a month ago that I saw a AS 732-Combi at the beginning of the C-Concourse at SEA; so I gurantee you that they do fly to SEA. They fly to the contentinal US. I don't know if they fly south of SEA however....

User currently offlineDoug_Or From United States of America, joined Mar 2000, 3402 posts, RR: 3
Reply 17, posted (10 years 4 months 2 weeks 3 days 11 hours ago) and read 1179 times:

BCAInfoSys, as Mizzou65201 said, there are 2 -200 flights to and from SEA . these flights both go up the AK coast.


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User currently offlineAirframeAS From United States of America, joined Feb 2004, 14150 posts, RR: 24
Reply 18, posted (10 years 4 months 2 weeks 3 days ago) and read 1115 times:

I don't know, AirframeAS or EA CO AS are going to be able to give a better answer then I can.

L-188, you're right about that one  Big thumbs up Thats how AS got the -200Cs

Edited:

I'm just going to chime in that it was less then a month ago that I saw a AS 732-Combi at the beginning of the C-Concourse at SEA; so I gurantee you that they do fly to SEA.

Thats at gate C1. AS stores the seat pallets in a storage room right near that gate so thats where they usually set up the configurations, etc.



[Edited 2004-04-08 10:58:50]


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User currently offlineL-188 From United States of America, joined Jul 1999, 29792 posts, RR: 58
Reply 19, posted (10 years 4 months 2 weeks 2 days 5 hours ago) and read 1074 times:

Well 746AS came from Markair.

And I think that Wien also contributed some -200QC's many many moons ago.

But again don't quote me on that.



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User currently offlineSupraZachAir From Northern Mariana Islands, joined Feb 2004, 634 posts, RR: 0
Reply 20, posted (10 years 4 months 2 weeks 2 days 3 hours ago) and read 1043 times:

I actually was out "bird watching" at the water tank a couple nights ago and watched AS 66 come in. You gotta love the combi's.

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