Aguilo From United States of America, joined Apr 2004, 243 posts, RR: 0 Posted (10 years 12 months 2 days 15 hours ago) and read 4499 times:
The livery looks very nice (supposed to look like the plane is "wrapped" in silver, not just painted) but I saw a DC9 at MIA, newly painted and the rear (behind the exhaust) is already filthy, all black with soot that really stands out a lot on the bright silver.
Seems like someone didn't think the new paint scheme out very well as far as how it would wear on rear engine ac like the DC9 and CRJs
Miles_mechanic From Canada, joined Sep 2001, 137 posts, RR: 0
Reply 1, posted (10 years 12 months 2 days 14 hours ago) and read 4409 times:
I personally love the new paint job, I know that on the DC-9's that the rear does look very dirty after a while, but that is not a problem on the CRJ's as far as I have seen they look fairly clean to me. Of course they have a more efficient engine then the old DC-9. I am willing to overlook the dirty back end of the DC-9 to see a nicer livery then the dull drab old paint scheme.
Worldperks From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 3, posted (10 years 12 months 2 days 14 hours ago) and read 4324 times:
I think the soot behind the thrust reversers has become a lot more noticeable since powerbacks have become commonplace. Other than painting all rear-engined aircraft soot-black, I don't know what else could be done.
Think of those soot smudges as tattoos that only the coolest airplanes have.
Jbmitt From United States of America, joined Jan 2002, 557 posts, RR: 2
Reply 6, posted (10 years 12 months 2 days 12 hours ago) and read 4119 times:
I think its dumb to design a paint scheme around engine soot. The planes are going to have to get cleaned anyways. Regardless of whether the soot is there or not. The silver is nice, if it was black, it might cost more for the paint job.
Worth noting: N975NE pictured above sadly crashed into the seawall at BOS while coming in for a landing in 1973 killing all but four people on board. At that time the plane, obviously, was wearing Delta widget liveries at the time. This crash was in an article on a back-issue of 'Airliners' several months ago.
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It's great to still have dirty DC9s--the soot is a disappearing signifier of the mechanical aspect of aviation, like nighttime exhaust flames on pistons and dense streams of smoke from CV880s and water-wagon 707s and DC8s.
As for NW liveries--sooty or not, the new one "outshines" the heavy, dated red look in every way.
Hammer From United States of America, joined Jul 2001, 690 posts, RR: 2
Reply 12, posted (10 years 12 months 1 day 19 hours ago) and read 3364 times:
Are you sure that EVERYTIME a DC-9 is on the ground in MEM it gets a tailwash?? I know here in DTW NWA does at least 10-12 planes a week, but I have never seen them doing it in MEM when it is a turn flight and going back out...
CitationJet From United States of America, joined Mar 2003, 2532 posts, RR: 3
Reply 14, posted (10 years 12 months 1 day 18 hours ago) and read 3273 times:
In Reply #9 above, I noticed that one BN 727 had a white rudder with the tailcone painted blue like the rest of the fuselage, while the gold 727 had a silver rudder with silver extended down to the tailcone in front of the #2 exhaust.
I had never noticed that difference in BN paint schemes before.
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MD11LuxuryLinr From United States of America, joined Jul 2003, 1385 posts, RR: 12
Reply 15, posted (10 years 12 months 1 day 18 hours ago) and read 3236 times:
.."Think of those soot smudges as tattoos that only the coolest airplanes have. "...
Nicely put Worldperks. DC9s with dirty butts are always a treat to see. It reminds me of the great old times when jets were LOUD and DIRTY!
I'm sure that the 'soot factor' wasn't considered (nor should it have been) when they designed their new c/s. Soot being on the fuselage doesn't cost them money, it's just unpleasant for 'clean freaks' to look at.
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